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Opinion 2020 Draft #2: 1/9/22/23/40/80 (2021 + Melb 2nd, Haw 4th, Freo 4th)

Who will Adelaide select with pick 1?


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KEY DATES

Oct 30 – Nov 6: AFL Free Agency Period
November 4 – 12: AFL Trade Period
November 20: List Lodgment 1
November 27: List Lodgment 2
November 30: AFL Draft Nominations close
w/c December 7: NAB AFL Draft and Rookie Draft (exact date to be confirmed in due course)
Mid-December: Final List Lodgment & TPP estimates

As God is my witness, finding anything useful on the AFL.com.au site is practically impossible, may whoever designed it burn in hell.
 
Listening to that I think he was waffling on about lots of stuff, just a thought bubble.

Clubs don't do vexatious bids, us or North aren't bidding on Campbell, he's rated in the 6-10 bracket. Swans wouldn't match at 1 or 2, don't have anywhere near enough points. They would probably gladly take McDonald and get Campbell back in a couple of years when he's homesick because he hates Adelaide.

JUH however we must bid on.

I'm not suggesting we bid on him, I'm suggesting maybe we've got our best poker faces on trying to make them think we will so we can get the trade over the line.

Also I don't think Kinnear waffles. He's playing the game.
 
Which club might be the best candidate for this? It's getting silly over at Norf, surely they'll need picks?
Stuffed if I know who'd be interested in a pick that late. Then again, Carlton/Sydney/Gold Coast did a pick swap yesterday involving picks in that range, so anything is possible.
 
The only people saying thilthorpe is pick 1 material are half a dozen adelaide bf posters. The SA bias is real and you are delusional if you think otherwise.
And recruiters/scouts who actually watch these kids for 2-3 years. Can absolutely guarantee you that not all recruiters have JUH as their number one, and Riley is in the conversation for number one amongst clubs outside of the Crows. There is no bias or delusion here because he’s from SA, 200 cm key forwards with his agility and ability to ruck don’t grow on trees. Also has trained with Port last year and obviously played well at sanfl level for someone his age this year.

Could be our version of Tom Lynch from Richmond in 3-5 seasons once he builds muscle and develops at afl level. There are a number of quality mids in this draft who will be available at our next selection, Riley won’t be.

Thilthorpe or McDonald would be worthy number one selections.
 

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I haven't followed what Norf are doing, but back at the start they delisted 11 players? Interesting to see where they get even the minimum replacements from.
What do you mean by "minimum replacements"? By definition, the draft has as many rounds & selections as there are senior list vacancies in the entire competiton. It doesn't stop until every club has either filled every senior list vacancy or passed (choosing not to fill them all). If one club has 11 senior list vacancies, then the draft could very well go to round 11 - though most teams would be finished by the end of round 3.
 
Growing more and more confident thithorpe will be available to us at 9.
Ok..since you have it in for Thilthorpe in a very big way and don't rate the guy at all, how about if he slips to our pick 9, you PM me details of where I can send a bottle of Penfolds RWT

BUT if he is picked before 9, then you can send me one..deal
 
Ok so we have now 33 on senior with the additions of Hinge and Hately. 3 Rookies. So assuming we go 6 Rookies and 38 leaving us with 5 picks in Draft and 1 rookie spot and two cat b Rookie Spots. Hopefully Borlase and Newchurch fill the CAT B rookie spots. All though I don't think Port would let Borlase slip. Mackay no doubt will be the other Rookie spot since they now can go straight onto the list. So no Rookie draft needed.

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My guess is that we won't want to max out the senior list i.e. we'll go for 37, which means 4 vacancies currently. Assuming we want 4 picks + we have to assume Borlase will need to be matched, that means at least one player moved to the rookie list - and possibly only one.
 
Isn't that a concern, surely we want him to be quite a bit better than Kruezer? Kreuzer never got past being a good honest player.
Kruezer never had a sustained run of games, 2017 his best season where he was a dominant ruckman
 
Ok so we have now 33 on senior with the additions of Hinge and Hately. 3 Rookies. So assuming we go 6 Rookies and 38 leaving us with 5 picks in Draft and 1 rookie spot and two cat b Rookie Spots. Hopefully Borlase and Newchurch fill the CAT B rookie spots. All though I don't think Port would let Borlase slip. Mackay no doubt will be the other Rookie spot since they now can go straight onto the list. So no Rookie draft needed.

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That assumes we fill the list completely (i.e. max out at 44 players). We may opt to leave 1-2 positions open, with an eye to the mid-season drafts.

A 36/4/2 or 36/5/2 mix is very possible. I would actually be disappointed to see us filling the entire 44 positions, given the opportunities presented by the mid-season drafts next year.
 
Talk from Melbourne Cox and Perkins are racing up draft calculations, and I don't see the others like Hollands, Phillips, DGB slipping.
Don't think Thilthorpe gets past SYD .....they do like recruiting from Sth Aust
 

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What do you mean by "minimum replacements"? By definition, the draft has as many rounds & selections as there are senior list vacancies in the entire competiton. It doesn't stop until every club has either filled every senior list vacancy or passed (choosing not to fill them all). If one club has 11 senior list vacancies, then the draft could very well go to round 11 - though most teams would be finished by the end of round 3.
I understand that, what I mean is - their fifth pick is currently #71, so if they took e.g. 8 players in the draft, they'd be taking 4 of them at #71 or later. But yes, I also understand that #71 (and the later picks) will probably come in a bit, and there won't be a full 18-pick gap between that and their later picks. One way or another, maybe North will be the last club standing and will have several picks in a row at the end of the draft. Just interested to see how it pans out, it looks like an unusual situation.

(Surely they will keep their senior list at the minimum this year and top it up next year.)
 
Kruezer never had a sustained run of games, 2017 his best season where he was a dominant ruckman
Seriously underrated on this board, obviously these people never saw him before his shocking run of injuries intervened, great courage to battle through them and still play some really good AFL football. Another like Trent "potential" that we never saw what they were truly capable of had it not been for their dreaded injuries that wrecked their careers.
 
Seriously underrated on this board, obviously these people never saw him before his shocking run of injuries intervened, great courage to battle through them and still play some really good AFL football. Another like Trent "potential" that we never saw what they were truly capable of had it not been for their dreaded injuries that wrecked their careers.
Kruezer was a barometer for CARL ....he was that important
 

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mcdonald american sports nuffy as said in the article. would be best mates with doedee
 
40 will end up around 32 after all the picks are used to match the bid. That's inside the 2nd round!
Maybe... maybe not. We'll see in 2 weeks time.

Either way, we will likely have made all 4 of our selections by then, leaving it surplus to requirements... and dangerous to "pass" with, as doing so would prevent us from matching any subsequent bids on Borlase.
 
Seriously underrated on this board, obviously these people never saw him before his shocking run of injuries intervened, great courage to battle through them and still play some really good AFL football. Another like Trent "potential" that we never saw what they were truly capable of had it not been for their dreaded injuries that wrecked their careers.
Agree he was hit by a lot of injuries, but I'd take Cyril Rioli and Patrick Dangerfield over Kruezer at his best for pick 1.

Hence I'm on the Hollands train like you are.
 
Agree he was hit by a lot of injuries, but I'd take Cyril Rioli and Patrick Dangerfield over Kruezer at his best for pick 1.

Hence I'm on the Hollands train like you are.
You would with hindsight but I guarantee you would not have on that draft night.
 
Where do you get this from?

If we nominate either F/S or NGA we're committed to putting them on our rookie list, provided nobody selects them in the ND. F/S players join the rookie list, with your last selection in the rookie draft - not the senior list/national draft. NGA players go onto the Cat B rookie list, and no picks are involved. Other clubs can select them in the ND or PSD, but once they make it to the RD they are all ours - and we are forced to take them.
I'm not sure that's true with rookies, is it?

Isn't that exactly what happened with Jarman and Edwards? We didn't nominate them for the main draft because it meant we would need to offer them a list spot, but nominated them subsequently so we could get them in the rookie draft?
 
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