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So lets play your game and ignore his comments confirming that he knew his words would damage Hawthorn, do you think Jeff is not smart enough to realise that the State Government would not be sending any discretionary spending to the club he heads if he committed to daily tirades against them and everything they were doing in the height of a public health storm? Really?I don't think he did.
Jeff Kennett blames Hawks setback on Dan Andrews
The Hawthorn president believes his criticism of the hotel quarantine program cost his club millions.7news.com.au
He believes the club was penalised for what he said, but nowhere does he say that he did so knowing the club would be penalised.
Or have I missed it somewhere else?
Link??
Same. This is a pretty clear cut issue.
I seriously cannot get my head around people thinking that our President should be mouthing off about whatever he likes, damaging our brand and fortunes at will.
To be fair mate, I don’t think anyone is thinking that it’s ok. Or at least I haven’t seen that posted by anyone.So lets play your game and ignore his comments confirming that he knew his words would damage Hawthorn, do you think Jeff is not smart enough to realise that the State Government would not be sending any discretionary spending to the club he heads if he committed to daily tirades against them and everything they were doing in the height of a public health storm? Really?
Even more reason to get him away from the club then if he has no idea what impact his public rants have for the fortunes of the HFC.
I seriously cannot get my head around people thinking that our President should be mouthing off about whatever he likes, damaging our brand and fortunes at will.
Straight over your head Hoot.Can’t really compare the situation. Kennett isn’t called a campaigner because he is white, male or an ex pollie. He is being called out for what he has done his actions. Which is what should happen.
This whole Goodes thing started because while playing a game of football Goodes called out racism that was directed towards him. That’s why it started and him being aboriginal caused a lot of people pile on with booing. Racism played a huge part in it.
Barry hall king hit a bloke and was strangling others. He wasn’t booed out of the game.
Umpire is going to call it a wide then cause you missed your target.Straight over your head Hoot.
I didn’t say he was called a sh*t campaigner because he’s male white & an ex politician.
I said it seems double standards to be able to call him that but we aren’t allowed to say that about others.
Anyone have any thoughts on Hitler.
Just thought I'd could lead this thread right off the rails.
Should just narrow the premise of the thread to the new venue and the optimism it will provide with every update.
And
Move Jeff opinion to the JK thread.
OkUmpire is going to call it a wide then cause you missed your target.
I don’t know about others but I’m happy to call a sh*t campaigner a sh*t campaigner if it’s justified based solely on ones actions.
Problem is a lot of attacks often have racist, sexist etc undertones. And these attacks will get called out. No double standards here at all.
People need to play the ball (actions) not the man.
Anyone have any thoughts on Hitler.
Just thought I'd could lead this thread right off the rails.
Should just narrow the premise of the thread to the new venue and the optimism it will provide with every update.
And
Move Jeff opinion to the JK thread.
So many jokes...but I'm not read for another new profile.Well, the trains ran on time.
I seriously cannot get my head around people thinking that our President should be mouthing off about whatever he likes, damaging our brand and fortunes at will.
I was impacted greatly, and without going into detail of personal specifics certainly did not enjoy any of it. I enjoyed much less the buffoonery of our president wanting everything to open up and just let more people die at the hands of a government he said was unable to control, trace or manage the virus.Im not Jeff. I cant tell you what he thinks.
And perhaps covid didnt impact you?
Perhaps you were delighted to be restricted to a travel circle of 5kms?
Perhaps the early curfews worked for you?
Perhaps you are not a business owner who suffered significant loss because of the state governments incompetence?
And perhaps there are no more important things in life for you than football?
For many people, covid was and still is devastating.
I for one welcomed his voice because for me, most of the media was reporting, nothing more.
You can respect that or not.
For many people, covid was and still is devastating.
I for one welcomed his voice because for me, most of the media was reporting, nothing more.
You can respect that or not.
You mean holding a government accountable for 800 deaths ?There was any number of media types editorialising through the lockdown. Jeff was playing Liberal Party Eminence.
Is Jeff the Hawthorn football club president, or leader of the opposition?You mean holding a government accountable for 800 deaths ?
You mean holding a government accountable for 800 deaths ?
I was impacted greatly, and without going into detail of personal specifics certainly did not enjoy any of it. I enjoyed much less the buffoonery of our president wanting everything to open up and just let more people die at the hands of a government he said was unable to control, trace or manage the virus.
But you have at least uncovered what was already blatantly obvious, and that is that like Jeff you put your personal politics ahead of the need to have a club that represents and speaks for all.
I was impacted greatly, and without going into detail of personal specifics certainly did not enjoy any of it. I enjoyed much less the buffoonery of our president wanting everything to open up and just let more people die at the hands of a government he said was unable to control, trace or manage the virus.
But you have at least uncovered what was already blatantly obvious, and that is that like Jeff you put your personal politics ahead of the need to have a club that represents and speaks for all.
I agree the two are unrelated. Yep. In a democracy however, people are entitled to voice a view, especially when the current opposition is so crap, people are dying, and those reponsible are getting away with homicidal incompetence.Is Jeff the Hawthorn football club president, or leader of the opposition?
Honestly, how is is anyone on here concluding the role of the Hawthorn president is to hold political parties to account?
Where did this idea come from?
Can you not understand how crazy this is?
If he says anything non-factual you are welcome to report him.Grandstanding on Twitter.
He has a responsibility to the club and its members to represent their interests. If he doesn’t want to do that he can quit.I agree the two are unrelated. Yep. In a democracy however, people are entitled to voice a view, especially when the current opposition is so crap, people are dying, and those reponsible are getting away with homicidal incompetence.
If the club votes him out, fine.
Jeff won't change.
I agree, I just hope we don’t end up with another GarveyHe has a responsibility to the club and its members to represent their interests. If he doesn’t want to do that he can quit.
Or you can join a club that has a president you like.... Or you can vote him out. He doesn't quit just because you say so.He has a responsibility to the club and its members to represent their interests. If he doesn’t want to do that he can quit.
When he accepts the responsibility of club president he is required to act in the best interests of the club. It is non negotiable. It is a legal requirement. I have been supportive of Jeff but if he wants to engage in political slugfests that hurt the club he needs to resign.Or you can join a club that has a president you like.... Or you can vote him out. He doesn't quit just because you say so.
I'm glad we have someone who has a voice.
It is a risk but the club can’t be solely reliant on Jeff or it will fail regardless.I agree, I just hope we don’t end up with another Garvey