Draft Watcher eDPS Draft Watch 2020

[eDPS]

 

[andleanback]

i wonder if coaches are honest about their players, i guess some are, but i would guess most tow the club line that all of their players are amazing so that their club has more AFL recruits, theres a lot of bias and vested interest in only talking positively about prospects, im sure AFL clubs have to use intuition and a lot of research behind the scenes to get real info about prospects.

an example was back in 2005 draft, Hawthorn took Xavier Ellis

Xavier Ellis

Age

37

Ht

186cm

Wt

81kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.2

4star

K

8.9

3star

HB

7.3

5star

M

4.6

4star

T

2.5

4star

MG

272.9

4star

No current season stats available

D

9.6

3star

K

6.2

3star

HB

3.4

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

0.8

3star

at pick 3, apparently a lot of people behind the scenes knew he was lazy and didnt like to train ect ect, but they all said Hawthorn never contacted them, be it teachers or local club coaches ect and he turned out to be very disappointing (im sure his TAC Cup head coach said he was a great kid that trains the house down), things have changed, but maybe not as much as you think from 15 years ago? thats why there are top 10 busts every now and then, clubs lack of due diligence can be a factor sometimes.

Ellis even said it himself on a podcast apparently all games weren’t filmed and clubs did stats themselves, one day he had 30s kick but power were adding the kicks out from behinds Cpuld get away with a lot more 15-20 years ago, guess that’s why there were a lot of busts in the top 30

 

[Davo-27]

Ellis even said it himself on a podcast apparently all games weren’t filmed and clubs did stats themselves, one day he had 30 kick but power were adding the kicks out from behinds

im pretty sure they still count kicks out from behinds, thats why some half backs have 30 touches.

 

[andleanback]

im pretty sure they still count kicks out from behinds, thats why some half backs have 30 touches.

Not if you didn’t play on they weren’t counted as stats.

 

[WeedsMullet84]

I'm fully on board the Hollands at #1 train. Get the best player at the top, then target Thilthorpe in a trade up.

If Phillips and Grainger-Barras are off the board, Gold Coast should try to get a future pick out of Adelaide to swap 5 and 9. Suns can pick up Bruhn or Powell, or alternatively take whoever of Reid, Cox and Chapman is still available. Everyone wins, except Essendon.

Get a future pick from Adelaide (our 2nd round?) and a swap of Pick 5 & 9? The AFL have created a massive distortion in the concessions for GC in that they already have pick 19 (start of 2nd round) in 2021

If you were GC, why would you do it? What's another 2nd rounder worth to them? They've spent 2 years throwing away picks to Geelong... They have coughed up Pick 12 in terms of points, for literally nothing.

 

[Peel67skin]

Get a future pick from Adelaide (our 2nd round?) and a swap of Pick 5 & 9? The AFL have created a massive distortion in the concessions for GC in that they already have pick 19 (start of 2nd round) in 2021

If you were GC, why would you do it? What's another 2nd rounder worth to them? They've spent 2 years throwing away picks to Geelong... They have coughed up Pick 12 in terms of points, for literally nothing.

I agree with you , GCS list management staff is the most incompetent and lazy in AFL . Their job is to pick top 20 pick and GCS academy players and get useless players like Murdoch and Atkins to boost their super .

 

[Chris25]

Get a future pick from Adelaide (our 2nd round?) and a swap of Pick 5 & 9? The AFL have created a massive distortion in the concessions for GC in that they already have pick 19 (start of 2nd round) in 2021

If you were GC, why would you do it? What's another 2nd rounder worth to them? They've spent 2 years throwing away picks to Geelong... They have coughed up Pick 12 in terms of points, for literally nothing.

What's an extra 2nd rounder worth to them? The better question would be what is it worth to others. In what will be a deeper draft, I'd like to have as many trade pieces as possible. They could package their extra picks together and move up next year.

I would do it because I think they'd be better off taking a KPD over Thilthorpe - whether that's Reid, Cox or Chapman. So if you can get that player at 9, why not gain an extra trade piece in the mean time. Or because for the Suns, I'd be just as happy with Powell or Bruhn instead of Perkins.

 

[Pykie]

The Essendon picks are fascinating.

The late mail seems to be that a few curve balls are in the mix (which was always going to be with this draft) here with maybe Henry, Stone, Bruhn.

Powell/Macrae/Stone a chance at Adelaide at #9 also. A McInnes bid likely here with Adelaide or even at Essendons picks.

Twomey seems to think Cox/Reid go to Essendon/GWS.

Perkins is a chance to get to #11.

 

[Dan87]

Did Eddie Ford look sharp in the training? Will be an interesting prospect to follow

 

[Haychh]

The Essendon picks are fascinating.

The late mail seems to be that a few curve balls are in the mix (which was always going to be with this draft) here with maybe Henry, Stone, Bruhn.

Powell/Macrae/Stone a chance at Adelaide at #9 also. A McInnes bid likely here with Adelaide or even at Essendons picks.

Twomey seems to think Cox/Reid go to Essendon/GWS.

Perkins is a chance to get to #11.

Plenty of options

1 of the "Fab 5" that drop out
Bid on Campbell
Bid on Jones
Bid on Mcinnes
Perkins
Cox
Reid
Bruhn
Macrae
O'Driscoll
Henry
Trade back with Collingwood
Trade back with GWS
Trade back with Adelaide

Essendon pretty much holds the keys for what happens in the back half of the 1st round. 1st time I've been excited heading into a draft since 16

 

[citizen-erased]

The Essendon picks are fascinating.

The late mail seems to be that a few curve balls are in the mix (which was always going to be with this draft) here with maybe Henry, Stone, Bruhn.

Powell/Macrae/Stone a chance at Adelaide at #9 also. A McInnes bid likely here with Adelaide or even at Essendons picks.

Twomey seems to think Cox/Reid go to Essendon/GWS.

Perkins is a chance to get to #11.

sounds like scuttlebutt on our end.
Though a fwd who can become a project mid....where have i heard that before.

Our picks likely shape the draft a fair bit.
Who we take, who is there that might kick off a bidding war, who we like later that we might trade back for.

 

[andleanback]

Did Eddie Ford look sharp in the training? Will be an interesting prospect to follow

I was there watching the metro groups go round and he trained pretty strongly, was watching his kicking which can be inconsistent at times. He was in ripping nick, wouldve loved to see him play midfield this year at that size.

 

[Mutineer]

Ed have you heard any whispers of Adelaide's interest in Max Holmes?

 

[eDPS]

Ed have you heard any whispers of Adelaide's interest in Max Holmes?

Nope

 

[Mutineer]

Nope

Draftable now or wait and see?

 

[eDPS]

Draftable now or wait and see?

Wait and see, very limited footage of him he would be drafted on his athletic profile right now

 

[THE_GUN]

I was there watching the metro groups go round and he trained pretty strongly, was watching his kicking which can be inconsistent at times. He was in ripping nick, wouldve loved to see him play midfield this year at that size.
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He is listed at 189cm just with your naked eye did he look taller or about that height

 

[andleanback]

He is listed at 189cm just with your naked eye did he look taller or about that height

Im not sure didnt really think about it, he looks strong through the legs which stood out. He's a tall 189 and while perkins is moreorless the same height, ford looks bigger than him.

 

[Mutineer]

Updated rankings will be out tonight, a few changes expected

 

[Jen2310]

Matt Balmer didn't seem to think Essendon have any strong interest in bidding on Reef.

 

[eDPS]

 

[Dockeroo]

Why aren’t goldcoast paying for Davies and Jeffrey through the draft proper like everyone else does? Instead they are passing on pick 27 for virtually nothing. Twice now Geelong have got ridiculous deals from GC in pick swaps. Both as a direct result of the over the top concessions handed to GC already by the AFL. The competition integrity would have been far better off if GC had to use pick 27 on Alex Davies instead of them handing to one of the strongest sides in the league for a likely pick in the 50s next season.

 

[Peel67skin]

Why aren’t goldcoast paying for Davies and Jeffrey through the draft proper like everyone else does? Instead they are passing on pick 27 for virtually nothing. Twice now Geelong have got ridiculous deals from GC in pick swaps. Both as a direct result of the over the top concessions handed to GC already by the AFL. The competition integrity would have been far better off if GC had to use pick 27 on Alex Davies instead of them handing to one of the strongest sides in the league for a likely pick in the 50s next season.

I can't agree more trade 27 and 37 out for multiple pick like other for Alex Davies and Jefferey .

 

[Davo-27]

Why aren’t goldcoast paying for Davies and Jeffrey through the draft proper like everyone else does? Instead they are passing on pick 27 for virtually nothing. Twice now Geelong have got ridiculous deals from GC in pick swaps. Both as a direct result of the over the top concessions handed to GC already by the AFL. The competition integrity would have been far better off if GC had to use pick 27 on Alex Davies instead of them handing to one of the strongest sides in the league for a likely pick in the 50s next season.

i think the AFL are making up for giving GWS seemingly around 50% more in draft value and pre-listing when they both started so they're helping them out seeing as they as a club have kindve stalled, its unfair, but they were a rabble when starting and then had to rebuild at the end of 2018, i think the AFL thought they needed a boost for a few years to get back on track and of course they want their northern teams looked after, cant have them failing in a growing market i guess?

 

[blueiris]

i think the AFL are making up for giving GWS seemingly around 50% more in draft value and pre-listing when they both started so they're helping them out seeing as they as a club have kindve stalled, its unfair, but they were a rabble when starting and then had to rebuild at the end of 2018, i think the AFL thought they needed a boost for a few years to get back on track and of course they want their northern teams looked after, cant have them failing in a growing market i guess?

They want their northern states teams looked after doubt that they look after they’re pet teams GWS and Gold Coast

 

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