Preview 2020 AFL National Draft Thread II

[roos_fanatic08]

As much as I don't particularly want us to take anymore half forwards. Picking the following would make out list so bloody exciting:

Pick 2: Hollands
Pick 11: Perkins
Pick 30: Ford
Pick 39: Winder
Pick 71: Neale

 

[Hearts to hearts]

Pretty average view that. If he doesn't sign up then he has no chance of playing AFL football. There are 10 Victorian clubs so the odds are slightly in favour of him getting drafted to a Victorian club. If not then he can look to get traded back to a Victorian Club at the earliest opportunity.

We all have different personalities and for some people moving away from home to live, especially interstate, can be very hard to cope with. Leaving home at the age of 18, can be a very daunting prospect for many people and though nothing has been said as far as I know, drafting either McDonald or Thilthorpe, has the increased risk of the go home factor.

I had to do it for education purposes when I was of their age, and if it hadn't been for a very supportive Aunty and Uncle living in Essendon, who I lived with for a number of years, I would not have lasted.

If that is a "stain" on my character/mental toughness, then so be it.

Whoa, the living in Essendon part is a massive stain on your character.

 

[Harvey Manfrenjensenden]

Looks like will be able to pick up Finn with our first pick in the rookie draft.

What a bargain

 

[Kangaroos4eva]

Whoa, the living in Essendon part is a massive stain on your character.

I have never forgiven Horace for living in sixth century BCE Susa.

 

[ferball]

We have no idea what he has had to, or sees he will have to, deal with outside of football that leads him to say it's important for him to live in Victoria. Plenty of teenagers live with family physical and mental health challenges, for example, that make them more resilient, not less - but also more conscious of the importance of being close by.

I can't see why it's better for recruiters interstate not to know they would have to manage extra issues with him if they selected him, or for Victorian clubs not to know that he would likely have a stronger commitment for giving him the opportunity to play and live where he wants to.

Fair enough. Surely tho that is something he talks to interstate recruiters about. It may be something they can support him with.

He may also have family/friends issues he needs to stay in Vic for that he doesn't want to talk about publicly.

Having a stronger commitment cos he lives where he wants is a red flag for me tho. Unless its associated with an issue like supporting his family, maybe his best mate is dying of cancer and he'd rather be around him till he dies or something. There are valid reasons for it. But without knowing those specifics then anything less than a full commitment is something I'd question in a player.

 

[Horace]

Whoa, the living in Essendon part is a massive stain on your character.

I know, I know. But I didn't know any better back then.

 

[Le Grille]

Fair enough. Surely tho that is something he talks to interstate recruiters about. It may be something they can support him with.

He may also have family/friends issues he needs to stay in Vic for that he doesn't want to talk about publicly.

Having a stronger commitment cos he lives where he wants is a red flag for me tho. Unless its associated with an issue like supporting his family, maybe his best mate is dying of cancer and he'd rather be around him till he dies or something. There are valid reasons for it. But without knowing those specifics then anything less than a full commitment is something I'd question in a player.

I simply think he is trying to get to a preferred club nothing more or less


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[ferball]

Pretty average view that. If he doesn't sign up then he has no chance of playing AFL football. There are 10 Victorian clubs so the odds are slightly in favour of him getting drafted to a Victorian club. If not then he can look to get traded back to a Victorian Club at the earliest opportunity.

We all have different personalities and for some people moving away from home to live, especially interstate, can be very hard to cope with. Leaving home at the age of 18, can be a very daunting prospect for many people and though nothing has been said as far as I know, drafting either McDonald or Thilthorpe, has the increased risk of the go home factor.

I had to do it for education purposes when I was of their age, and if it hadn't been for a very supportive Aunty and Uncle living in Essendon, who I lived with for a number of years, I would not have lasted.

If that is a "stain" on my character/mental toughness, then so be it.

But you did last, and you might have found that support elsewhere.

Agree tho, living in that suburb sure did suck.

 

[Kangaroos4eva]

I simply think he is trying to get to a preferred club nothing more or less


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Maybe that club is us. Clayton is apparently a huge fan of him and we’ve been in his ear.

 

[ferball]

I simply think he is trying to get to a preferred club nothing more or less


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Yeah Im starting to come around to that pov. *

 

[Ohhh Errol]

Regarding the Essendon vibes... first thought was yep, the wreaks of Ess meddling, but looking at draft positions on interstate clubs, GC the only threat to drafting perkins before * and even that is unlikely.

That ass hat a few years back who's dad got involved and stated they didn't want to go to North because they wanted * to draft him, well, that was a very different case to wanting to remain in home state in the year of the pandemic.

By all means sink the boots in to that kid, I know I did at the time lol. But when the state is telling you that you no longer have free travel within the country, then I think everyone is well within they rights to want to stay close to friends and family.

 

[Clarke is King]

Looks like will be able to pick up Finn with our first pick in the rookie draft.

What a bargain

Who is Finn?

 

[Reginald0]

It could just be he has been talking with Dodo as someone else mentioned.

I'm not completely old school either. Plenty of so called old school thought processes are f’ed and for the tip. But we've just seen a decade of mental softness at North onfield and I guess that is influencing me too.

but we got in 2 prelims, won 10 in a row one year......surely you are reWriting history with this ridiculous generalization

 

[hurricane]

Has absolutely zero to do with who’s got the biggest.

We are drafting for the club’s future and I want the best possible outcome for our club. If another club is silly enough to offer ridiculous overs, then that’s the best outcome for North. Any club would push for overs as that is the best outcome. When push comes to shove, we won’t screw over other clubs and our relationships with them, like * tries to.

But what are these ‘overs’?

You say if a club is silly enough to offer something ridiculous... but no club isn’t going to act in their own best interest.

Clubs often put different value on picks according their recruiters’ evaluations and the club’s particular circumstances. If a swap eventuates it is because both clubs see they are better off based on these different assessments. Win/win, otherwise one party would pull out.

Then BigFooty comes along, rates the swap against some subjective evaluation based on media hype, phantom drafts, a few video clips and some recycled forum opinions, and crows that one side got ‘overs’.

It’s honestly a silly concept, at least until we can make some kind of performance-based assessment years later.

 

[Lomas]

Regarding the Essendon vibes... first thought was yep, the wreaks of Ess meddling, but looking at draft positions on interstate clubs, GC the only threat to drafting perkins before * and even that is unlikely.

That ass hat a few years back who's dad got involved and stated they didn't want to go to North because they wanted * to draft him, well, that was a very different case to wanting to remain in home state in the year of the pandemic.

By all means sink the boots in to that kid, I know I did at the time lol. In the end he did us a favour.

I was thinking about him too. Didn't he and his dad then have to frantically search for another suiter a few years later when things didn't work out at *? Wasn't a lot of sympathy as I recall. Then again, if he was a better player it would have been less of an issue.

 

[ferball]

but we got in 2 prelims, won 10 in a row one year......surely you are reWriting history with this ridiculous generalization

Go back thru my posting. I've always stated that we needed to be mentally tougher and that was while I supported Scott.

We would have won that West Coast PF with a mentally tougher side. There were crucial moments that we failed to seize on and it cost the game. As much as the umpires did. Some would say more.

WE lost so many close games in 2013. Failure to hold leads, mount comebacks and execute basic skills under minimal pressure etc etc all cost us during that time. We would have played more finals and possibly won a flag in 2015 if we'd been mentally tougher.

 

[Thewlis Dish]

Regarding the Essendon vibes... first thought was yep, the wreaks of Ess meddling, but looking at draft positions on interstate clubs, GC the only threat to drafting perkins before * and even that is unlikely.

That ass hat a few years back who's dad got involved and stated they didn't want to go to North because they wanted * to draft him, well, that was a very different case to wanting to remain in home state in the year of the pandemic.

By all means sink the boots in to that kid, I know I did at the time lol. But when the state is telling you that you no longer have free travel within the country, then I think everyone is well within they rights to want to stay close to friends and family.

I reckon it points more to * saying they aren't going to take him tbh, so he wants to get past GWS and Adelaide.

 

[Kangalongtime]

I am surprised the lack of interest in Finlay Macrae to be honest , I followed his brother closely in his underage football. Finlay at same age was tracking above jack in regards to development and output and it was only late in his draft year that Jack pushed up draft boards with a bullet. I rarely post but I can’t see how Jack Macrae would not be our best midfielder since Boomer on current output, I fear we will regret watching Finlay accumulate possessions at will against us for years to come . Outstanding family, great genes , I would be thrilled if he was available at 11

 

[hurricane]

Regarding *....do we think that leaving Perkins, Cox and Cook’s names on a whiteboard in view of opposition recruiters is a piece of Dodo misdirection or just total ineptitude?

I’m having a hard time deciding...

 

[the flying ham]

If Perkins wasnt ready to move interstate, he should've nominated when he was.

 

[Kangaroos4eva]

But what are these ‘overs’?

You say if a club is silly enough to offer something ridiculous... but no club isn’t going to act in their own best interest.

Clubs often put different value on picks according their recruiters’ evaluations and the club’s particular circumstances. If a swap eventuates it is because both clubs see they are better off based on these different assessments. Win/win, otherwise one party would pull out.

Then BigFooty comes along, rates the swap against some subjective evaluation based on media hype, phantom drafts, a few video clips and some recycled forum opinions, and crows that one side got ‘overs’.

It’s honestly a silly concept, at least until we can make some kind of performance-based assessment years later.

I’m talking purely in terms of picks, not the bf youth comparisons, which get real tiresome.

Deals like involving GC and Geelong come to mind. Ie A future first for 27 with the pressure of live drafting and pick trading.

 

[Ether]

Trying to control my excitement for tomorrow, which is proving extremely difficult... How’s this for a future midfield?

LDU - The explosive stoppage mid
Simpkin - Balanced inside outside, goal kicking
Hollands - Big bodied silky skilled goal kicking
Horne - Explosive goal kicking balanced inside outside
Powell - Ball pig heart and soul, inside grunt
Thomas - Big bodied silky skilled goal kicking

Throw in some bursts from Zurhaar and Stephenson....

Apologies for the viagra, I’ll see myself out.

Enough of the f***in Horne. Preseason's just started and you already have us finishing last next year.

 

[The Lone Latic]

Oh yes we r taking EH. Everything Hamish has said in last few days points to EH.

 

[FootySmartSimpson]

Can someone explain

Edps phantom draft

3. Elijah Hollands
14. Caleb Poulter
36. Matt Allison
43. Jake Bowey
53. Malachy Carruthers

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E*sendon making out like effing bandits in this scenario.

 

[The Lone Latic]

I was thinking about him too. Didn't he and his dad then have to frantically search for another suiter a few years later when things didn't work out at *? Wasn't a lot of sympathy as I recall. Then again, if he was a better player it would have been less of an issue.

Who was this ass hat to whom you are referring? I don't remember this at all (though I may not have been posting on the board at the time)