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Hawthorn won a 3peat using a defensive wing with a basic plan the same as ours atm.

Unfortunately our gameplan of not committing numbers to the contest , getting the opposition to kick the ball to a contest and stretching the ground out to create turnovers leaves us vulnerable to chain of handballs and running the ball through the corridor. Thus the defensive winger as a counter measure .

My impression was that if we won the contest the defensive winger surged forward and then became an attacking player in transition .

I like our gameplan . It is beautiful to watch easily one of the more pure forms of the game but.......

It doesn't transition well to wet/slippery weather.

It doesn't transition well to narrow grounds

It needs us to have ariel dominance in the backline and up the line on the HFF

It doesn't work unless our backs move the ball quickly and our HFF/forwards work up the ground and help with transition.

Unfortunately a game plan like Richmond's is anywhere any conditions.

We need things on our terms
Our gameplan absolutely destroys richmond's in the dry though. Look at 2018 game and first half of the 2019 game. Our problem is an inability to crack in when it gets wet.
 

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How was our gameplan different in 2015 when we played at Subi (a narrow ground)?
As danwce said we played the web and forward press which didn't transition well to the expanses of the mcg as the hawks could pinpoint passes through it at the mcg compared to 3 weeks earlier at subi.

It was hardly our only problem in the 2015 GF though.
 
Not sure we have alignment on a defensive winger versus a winger that guards space.

I am fully on board in having a more defensive winger but not one that corals and won’t engage in a contest. Guarding space is my concern. I cannot see us getting another flag without changing that structure.

In terms of using the centre corridor, the responses make out as if it is boundary or corridor. Not my idea at all. It is when a mark is taken of the back flank and the player does not even look forward and proceeds keeps off
 
Not sure we have alignment on a defensive winger versus a winger that guards space.

I am fully on board in having a more defensive winger but not one that corals and won’t engage in a contest. Guarding space is my concern. I cannot see us getting another flag without changing that structure.

In terms of using the centre corridor, the responses make out as if it is boundary or corridor. Not my idea at all. It is when a mark is taken of the back flank and the player does not even look forward and proceeds keeps off

My favourite is still the old "kick it to the same wing when coming out of defence every time and if one of the 500 talls we've planted there don't mark it, we're screwed" approach.
 
I didn't realise Adelaide originally owned the pick we used on Edwards. I hope he makes it even more now :p
Same.

A lot of recruiters in 2019 saw him as top 20 and even in 2020 saw him 2nd round. He played senior SANFL and has pedigree.
He also wants to stick it to them and the entire family seemed over the moon when we picked him up.

Could be a great pickup.
 
Good assessment, I don't always agree with their assessments.
No questions we turned water into wine, hopefully it matures into a Grange now.
I’d be happy if one of them was a Pepperjack Shiraz. Grange is wonderful but the last Grange we drafted was Judd
 

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Not sure we have alignment on a defensive winger versus a winger that guards space.

I am fully on board in having a more defensive winger but not one that corals and won’t engage in a contest. Guarding space is my concern. I cannot see us getting another flag without changing that structure.

In terms of using the centre corridor, the responses make out as if it is boundary or corridor. Not my idea at all. It is when a mark is taken of the back flank and the player does not even look forward and proceeds keeps off
The new rule of no lateral movement on the mark is actually a very good one in my opinion.

It really is a bugbear of mine when a player is on the mark but moves 2m towards the corridor laterally to force a player to kick down the line closing off 3/4 of the field .

We saw it with Port and Brisbane early in the year there lateral movement on the mark cut off a lot of our short kicks .
 
The new rule of no lateral movement on the mark is actually a very good one in my opinion.

It really is a bugbear of mine when a player is on the mark but moves 2m towards the corridor laterally to force a player to kick down the line closing off 3/4 of the field .

We saw it with Port and Brisbane early in the year there lateral movement on the mark cut off a lot of our short kicks .
I can see this as an absolute disaster of a rule. The game will be riddled with 50m penatlies for the first quarter of the season until the umpires work out how the **** to interpret it. Most AFL players should be able to actually kick over the man on the mark regardless of where they stand. Yet more sh1tf*ckery from AFL house.
 

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So, pretty much the same as every season then?
Yes but on steroids. Half a step? 2 steps?a sideways glance? what will be sufficient to be lateral movement? Pretty much everyone will be looking to play on around the mark because as soon as you look to do that, instinct will be for the MTOM to move in that direction to start the chase but if play on hasn't been called, they will get pinged 50m. I thought the 10m protected zone was (and still is) rubbish, but with this added to the mix, it wont be unusual to see up to 20x 50m penalties a game early in the piece which will completely ruin the game until they rein it in and realise what a dumpster fire they have started.
 
I can see this as an absolute disaster of a rule. The game will be riddled with 50m penatlies for the first quarter of the season until the umpires work out how the fu** to interpret it. Most AFL players should be able to actually kick over the man on the mark regardless of where they stand. Yet more sh1tf*ckery from AFL house.
It seems pretty easy to me . You stand the mark on the spot they marked it until the umpire calls play on or they dispose of it .

It will free up players for faster ball movement as the player on the mark won't be able to both man the mark and cover another player .

It really has been double dipping since they allowed them to move laterally.
 
It seems pretty easy to me . You stand the mark on the spot they marked it until the umpire calls play on or they dispose of it .

It will free up players for faster ball movement as the player on the mark won't be able to both man the mark and cover another player .

It really has been double dipping since they allowed them to move laterally.
What do you mean since they allowed them to move laterally? That has always been allowable.
We will see I guess but I reckon it will be a major cluster****.
 
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