Essendon 2021

[The Warlord]

Essendon are going the big Sherman this year anyway

 

[Jabba73]

The club is rebuilding their list while failing to publicly acknowledge it or inform their fans. Will lead to a lot of dissatisfaction as some fans seem to think last season was an anomaly when in reality it was the start of a downhill trend.

It normally takes more than some shiny new recruits to distract the membership base from poor results, for some reason the Windy Hill mob seem to think the lack of quality senior players at both ends will not have the same effect on them as it does every other club in history. It is not quite Crows level bad, might be closer than comfortable for some.

Will be an interesting ride to watch.

 

[Tzatziki_Man]

Still waiting for Courtney Johns to reach his full potential

 

[Milanista28]

The club is rebuilding their list while failing to publicly acknowledge it or inform their fans. Will lead to a lot of dissatisfaction as some fans seem to think last season was an anomaly when in reality it was the start of a downhill trend.

It normally takes more than some shiny new recruits to distract the membership base from poor results, for some reason the Windy Hill mob seem to think the lack of quality senior players at both ends will not have the same effect on them as it does every other club in history. It is not quite Crows level bad, might be closer than comfortable for some.

Will be an interesting ride to watch.

What do you want the club to do? Hold a press conference announcing a rebuild? It's obvious what's happening at the club, you can rebuild and try to remain as competitive as possible and that's our aim.

 

[The Warlord]

It gives me great pleasure that we took the kid in Will Philips that Essendon so desperately need for their rebuild l.

 

[owen87]

It gives me great pleasure that we took the kid in Will Philips that Essendon so desperately need for their rebuild l.

We need another ~ 180cm midfielder?

News to me.

 

[owen87]

The club is rebuilding their list while failing to publicly acknowledge it or inform their fans. Will lead to a lot of dissatisfaction as some fans seem to think last season was an anomaly when in reality it was the start of a downhill trend.

It normally takes more than some shiny new recruits to distract the membership base from poor results, for some reason the Windy Hill mob seem to think the lack of quality senior players at both ends will not have the same effect on them as it does every other club in history. It is not quite Crows level bad, might be closer than comfortable for some.

Will be an interesting ride to watch.

Adrian Dodoro lifts the lid on Essendon's draft strategy

“This draft was about the future of our club."

www.sen.com.au

“This draft was about the future of our club and doing the right thing about our club, in the next two or three years we’ll be turning over the majority of that spine and there will be a brand new spine."

Not sure how much more public a comment you need.

 

[HirdsTheWord]

The club is rebuilding their list while failing to publicly acknowledge it or inform their fans. Will lead to a lot of dissatisfaction as some fans seem to think last season was an anomaly when in reality it was the start of a downhill trend.

It normally takes more than some shiny new recruits to distract the membership base from poor results, for some reason the Windy Hill mob seem to think the lack of quality senior players at both ends will not have the same effect on them as it does every other club in history. It is not quite Crows level bad, might be closer than comfortable for some.

Will be an interesting ride to watch.

you obviously don't have to do much to get Carltons POTY award....

 

[The Warlord]

We need another ~ 180cm midfielder?

News to me.

You need a driven classy inside mid that screams future captain who will come through with the talls you've drafted.

I suspect the plan is to get one this draft but not sure it will work out that way.

 

[owen87]

You need a driven classy inside mid that screams future captain who will come through with the talls you've drafted.

I suspect the plan is to get one this draft but not sure it will work out that way.

We really don't need another 180cm midfielder, he was the one player most of us was hoping was off the board because whilst he was clearly too good not to take, he also didn't improve our midfield mix.

 

[The Warlord]

We really don't need another 180cm midfielder, he was the one player most of us was hoping was off the board because whilst he was clearly too good not to take, he also didn't improve our midfield mix.

Size is immaterial when the rest of the package is that classy.

See Harvey, B.

 

[owen87]

Size is immaterial when the rest of the package is that classy.

See Harvey, B.

So Essendon don't need a big bodied midfielder is what you're saying?

 

[Jabba73]

you obviously don't have to do much to get Carltons POTY award....

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It was years ago, like your last finals win

 

[HirdsTheWord]

It was years ago, like your last finals win

you should be thanking us. We are the reason you are not in the same boat.

 

[Jabba73]

you should be thanking us. We are the reason you are not in the same boat.

Oh we do, especially with Tigers fans.

The irony of winning a final against them from ninth on the ladder is not lost ... even after all this time.

 

[Jabba73]

Adrian Dodoro lifts the lid on Essendon's draft strategy

“This draft was about the future of our club."

www.sen.com.au

Not sure how much more public a comment you need.

No, that was Dodo making excuses and pretending to make the best of a bad situation when everyone wanted out.

None of them replace Saad-to-see-him-go, Fanta-see-ya-later-alligator, Joe-anywhere-but-here and your entire Irish experiment as they are 2-4 year project players. You needed to stock up on talls 2-3 years ago as they always take longer to develop into match winners. Now that you have taken talls, still haven’t filled the gaps left by experienced players. Caldwell is a good start, will take time to find his feet.

 

[owen87]

No, that was Dodo making excuses and pretending to make the best of a bad situation when everyone wanted out.

None of them replace Saad-to-see-him-go, Fanta-see-ya-later-alligator, Joe-anywhere-but-here and your entire Irish experiment as they are 2-4 year project players. You needed to stock up on talls 2-3 years ago as they always take longer to develop into match winners. Now that you have taken talls, still haven’t filled the gaps left by experienced players. Caldwell is a good start, will take time to find his feet.

Wait.

So going to the draft to replenish young talls. To replace the aging talls. Is now the wrong thing. Because we should have gone to the draft. To replace Fantasia and Saad?

* me you Carlton supporters are morons.

 

[HirdsTheWord]

No, that was Dodo making excuses and pretending to make the best of a bad situation when everyone wanted out.

None of them replace Saad-to-see-him-go, Fanta-see-ya-later-alligator, Joe-anywhere-but-here and your entire Irish experiment as they are 2-4 year project players. You needed to stock up on talls 2-3 years ago as they always take longer to develop into match winners. Now that you have taken talls, still haven’t filled the gaps left by experienced players. Caldwell is a good start, will take time to find his feet.

everyone?

you mean 3 people? of which only 1 was a surprise to anybody?

let take a cartons supporters advice. Pay McGovern a million a year, whilst not even playing him and just tank through top draft picks for years on years and still accomplish * all.

no doubt we are trash, but a Carlton supporter giving advice to other teams lists? was a good laugh.

 

[Jabba73]

Wait.

So going to the draft to replenish young talls. To replace the aging talls. Is now the wrong thing. Because we should have gone to the draft. To replace Fantasia and Saad?

fu** me you Carlton supporters are morons.

Sigh.

Hooker and Hurley will be lucky to see out the year, you needed to draft talls 2-3 years ago to replace them as they would be ready now.

The draft currency to get the new crop of talls was from losing Daniher, Saad and other experienced players but you have not made enough moves to replace them. The rebuild has started in earnest across the park and Dodo is rolling out tall kids who are up to 4 years away from contributing regularly as some cure all for the shitstorm that is coming.

If you lose Merrett next year to FA, your midfield becomes even more pedestrian and coupled with the reduced run out of the backline, the club will struggle. Fans are being told to expect good things, buggered if anyone can see where they are coming from.

Better hope that Rutten is some kind of wonder coach that was being stifled by Worsfold otherwise it could be another 10 years before you see finals action again.

 

[owen87]

you needed to draft talls 2-3 years ago to replace them as they would be ready now.

The rebuild has started in earnest

kids who are up to 4 years away

Do you even realise that what you're writing contradicts itself?

Fans are being told to expect good things

Are they?

could be another 10 years before you see finals action again

Unlikely, only Gold Coast has gone 10 years without a finals appearance of the current clubs. It just doesn't take that long for clubs to move around unless they completely botch it. Like Gold Coast did.

 

[Jabba73]

everyone?

you mean 3 people? of which only 1 was a surprise to anybody?

let take a cartons supporters advice. Pay McGovern a million a year, whilst not even playing him and just tank through top draft picks for years on years and still accomplish fu** all.

no doubt we are trash, but a Carlton supporter giving advice to other teams lists? was a good laugh.

Our recruiting was a disaster for years, the difference is most Carlton fans could see it.

 

[Jabba73]

Do you even realise that what you're writing contradicts itself?

No it doesn’t.

You needed to draft talls 2-3 years ago, the ones you got this draft will take up to 4 years to be regular contributors to take over from Hooker and Hurley in particular.

The rebuild has started because experienced players left and you had no choice but to hit the draft, it is just too little and too late to stop the bottoming out that has been threatening for a few years. Shiel, Smith, Wright, Caldwell, Stringer and Phillips will be lucky to see any success before their time is up. Caldwell the most likely and only because of his age.

Dodo and the club are pointing to the talls drafted while conveniently ignoring who left.

 

[HirdsTheWord]

Our recruiting was a disaster for years, the difference is most Carlton fans could see it.

maybe go have a read of the Essendon board.

We are well aware our general drafting has been rubbish over the years. But the specifics you are pointing out in this thread are missing the mark.

 

[owen87]

No it doesn’t.

You needed to draft talls 2-3 years ago, the ones you got this draft will take up to 4 years to be regular contributors to take over from Hooker and Hurley in particular.

The rebuild has started because experienced players left and you had no choice but to hit the draft, it is just too little and too late to stop the bottoming out that has been threatening for a few years. Shiel, Smith, Wright, Caldwell, Stringer and Phillips will be lucky to see any success before their time is up. Caldwell the most likely and only because of his age.

Dodo and the club are pointing to the talls drafted while conveniently ignoring who left.

Right, so because you think the club should have started rebuilding in 2017 (just after Daniher made the AA team, kicking 65 goals mind you) and they should have been drafting talls at that time when there was no indication Daniher would spend the next 3 seasons injured, or want to leave?

In 2019 they took talls with their first 2 selections at the draft, along with a 3rd in the SPP. Then in 2020 they took 4 talls. So that's 7 players > 190cm in 2 drafts, from when they became aware that Daniher was wanting to move on.

So your criticism is that they didn't immediately start re-building the spine in 2017 when Daniher had an AA season and Essendon played finals?

Genius.

 

[Jabba73]

maybe go have a read of the Essendon board.

We are well aware our general drafting has been rubbish over the years. But the specifics you are pointing out in this thread are missing the mark.

Yet the bloke who has been in charge of recruiting is still there after 20 years.

Seems the general consensus from your supporters is to defend Dodo against any criticism when all evidence shows he is the main contributor to your poor results. ‘Delusional’ is the favoured insult for any that ask questions of the great man.

I hope he stays in his current job for another decade.