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You don't care about the months of rioting and dozens of deaths committed prior, including attacks on federal buildings? I guess whatever the media use as headlines = the priority for most!
Society/Culture Can we please stop equating the risk posed by left wing extremists with that of right wing extremists?
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Watching SBS viceland and they interview some KKK guys.
"What rights are they taking away from you?"
"Christmas"
It reminded me of someone.
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Who? Surely not I, the bloke who has a mixed race kid on the way and who loves Israel?
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Can't remember the guys name, but he hangs out here a bit
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You could probably lump Salafi-Jihadist as far right or deeply conservative.
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When 'far left' terrorism was only accounting for single digit percentages, it can only go up cant it?
Meanwhile the 50 percent plus percent of terror attacks by right wingers has also been increasing, to now be the dominant threat in the USA (where it has been for much of the past two decades).
Tell you what; when far left terrorism catches up to you crazy Right wingers and your terrorism, you can start to equate the two then.
Until then, you're wrong and an apologist for Nazis. The first one can be forgiven due to ignorance or stupidity. The second one cant be forgiven.
No, they dont.
Firstly your report claims that the damage was caused by 'anti-government, anti-authority and anarchist violent extremism' which is not exclusive to the 'Left' (Timothy McVeigh was anti-government, and the entire 3 percenter movement, tea party movement and similar 'patriot' groups and sovereign citizens - all of which are far right wing - are also anti-government).
Secondly, after you've pulled out the right wing anti-government people from your statistics, you'll need to show me how those numbers of violence are higher than the violence caused by the KKK, Neo-Nazis and other similar groups, and lone actors with far right wing (sexist, homophobic, racist) views much of which isnt even counted towards the total.
Basically take every single hate crime in the USA and lay that at the feet of your Right wing brothers, and then we can compare numbers.
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Any NAZI pr0n today?
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Almost googled it, but don't want to end up on a watchlist
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Yeah. The Nazis and KKK members and extremists you've been not only reluctant to denounce in this thread (you havent even done so the once so far) but have actually been deflecting criticism of and actively defending on multiple occasions.
Those guys.
Bullshit. And I never said you were a Nazi or a Neo Nazi either. I just said you were the kind of person who supports them (as you did several posts up when you asserted that the group of Neo-Nazis out in the bush, who were literally burning crosses and saluting Hitler, were 'just a bunch of blokes having a coffee').
I did nothing of the sort. I asked you to provide evidence the people burning business were 'leftists' and not just opportunistic rioters or looters. Something you couldn't do.
I suggest you learn to read. The two paragraphs of the report you've provided (twice now) does not mention the 'far left' or 'left' at all. Not once.
You keep claiming it does, but it doesnt.
As I pointed out to you last time, the culprits are named as 'anti-government, anti-authority and anarchist violent extremis[ts]', which describes far right extremists like Timothy McVeigh, sovereign citizens, Qanon nutters, Tea Party Libertarians, 3 percenters and militia groups.
Are you claiming Timothy McVeigh was left wing now, along with Salaffi Jihadists?
Next thing you know, you'll go full medusala and start calling Nazis 'leftists'.
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You're a Neo Nazi apologist who refuses to condemn far right wing terrorism and extremism, and instead deflects elsewhere, even when asked to condemn them.
You've literally done this in this very thread (deflect and equate, and refuse to condemn). A thread which is ironically directed at calling out people just like you, who do just that.
Meanwhile:
Labor pushes for far-right extremists Proud Boys to be declared terrorists - ABC News
I presume most of the remaining 60 percent is directed at Salaffi Jihadists. RWNJ's will overtake them soon here I reckon.
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Thanks for making my point.
So you agree, 40 percent of ASIO's efforts are directed at Right wing extremists, and the remaining 60 percent is directed almost solely at Salaffi Jihadis.
Where do the leftists come in?
And the above being the case, why are you here trying to downplay Right wing extremism, and conflate it with Left wing extremism? The RWNJ's are nearly as much of a threat as ISIS and Al Queda!
You almost sound like you're defending a footy team you support.
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You've been doing it the whole thread.
For the third time, I never said anything of the sort. Im simply asking you to confirm those rioters setting properties on fire are left wing extremists.
You keep saying they are. I want proof. They look like standard run of the mill rioters and looters to me.
Nothing justifies terrorism. Saying their grievances are justified, doesnt justify their actions.
If you murder my child, I have a legitimate grievance against you. However that doesnt excuse me murdering you in response.
See the difference?
And I agree with that statement, with RW extremists are coming in a close second.
What I dont agree with (and what the whole premise of the thread is about) is that the risks of Right wing extremism and terrorism and Left wing extremism and terrorism are comparable, or that that its fair conflating the two. In Australia (for example) Salaffi Jihadis are around 60 percent of known threats and ASIO resources, with RWNJ's are the remining 40 percent.
Leftists arent even a blip on the radar.
So again, can we please stop conflating left wing terrorism with right wing terrorism. Thanks.
Seems islamist terror groups are neither left or right and neither wants to claim 'ownership'
Must a centrist group with centrist ideals....................... oh wait!
Must a centrist group with centrist ideals....................... oh wait!
No offence but you'd have to be very dim, like the people who call Nazis 'socialists' to associate Islamic terrorism and the left.
Correct I don't think they are either, my view is they're just extremist with anti 'western' views.
Don't know what label to put on them, certainly islamist extremists would be viewed as centrists by islamist extremists. But I doubt they'd be viewed as centrists in any liberal democratic society.
Do we really need to align islamist extremists as left or right anyway? And what is the actual good of labeling extreme groups as either?
Just extreme dick heads for me.
Next thing you will have a Homer episode, put a pencil up your nose and realise that you have been a muppet for years trying to call National Socialists "right wing".
Dear God. Another one.
How is hatred of the freedom of individuals and the rule of law associate with the "right"?
Arts Degree by any chance?
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You are just vomiting over people who have known people who have lost lives in London, Manchester, Boston, Sydney, Paris etc etc etc and thats before we even get to the genocide committed against Christians in the ME.
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While you conveniently gloss over Norway, Christchurch, El Paso, Pittsburg, Charleston etc etc
And you really want to talk about genocide when it comes to Right Wing Groups?
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