World Test Championship 2019-2021

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Given the AUS vs SA series is not scheduled again in the next few months, New Zealand has become the first side to qualify for the final. If the IND vs ENG series ends up 1-1, 2-2, or 2-1 in favour of England, Australia will still be able to qualify for the final. Go England! (not too well though)
 
Given the new covid strain situation in England, would the kiwis be willing to travel to London to play the WTC final? Provided we make the final, as an Indian fan, I hope the WTC final gets moved to Australia and they play the final at the MCG.

If we make the final, we will most probably get rolled over on a green seamer by the kiwis in England but think we should start favourites on any venue in Australia.
 

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Given the new covid strain situation in England, would the kiwis be willing to travel to London to play the WTC final? Provided we make the final, as an Indian fan, I hope the WTC final gets moved to Australia and they play the final at the MCG.

If we make the final, we will most probably get rolled over on a green seamer by the kiwis in England but think we should start favourites on any venue in Australia.
They'd have to move it to a different season too if you want it played at the MCG as there's absolutely no chance the AFL give it up in June.
 
We miss out on the final due to points docked for a slow over rate in Melbourne. Not only did Paine completely screw the last 2 Tests with his captaincy he managed to stuff up and appearance in the WTC Final because we bowled our overs too slow.

partly yes.

should never have lost the test in england where stokes went nuts
should never have lost at the GABBA to brisbane
shouldve beaten india in sydney

the whole thing is a farce to determine this on the back of 4 series.

how does a team make it when they havent beaten us in a series for 30 odd years.

end of the day we did only play 1 away series and drew that.

results fall our way and we may scrape in - doesn't change my views that the whole thing was already a mess and covid added to the mess.
 
Surely India dish up absolute bunsens considering the permutations they need. Also wouldn't put it past England to just roll over if they are 2-0 down and keep Australia out. Not necessarily deliberately, but they do have a history (5-0 twice here) of the arse falling out on a tough tour.
 

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Surely India dish up absolute bunsens considering the permutations they need. Also wouldn't put it past England to just roll over if they are 2-0 down and keep Australia out. Not necessarily deliberately, but they do have a history (5-0 twice here) of the arse falling out on a tough tour.

England have struggled against a rather pedestrian attack in Sri Lanka. Root is the only one who made runs.

Whatever you think of the Sri Lankan attack it is alot weaker than the indian one.

If England get out of the series with a win I think they would be really happy and probably an over performance.

3-0 India minimum
 
partly yes.

should never have lost the test in england where stokes went nuts
should never have lost at the GABBA to brisbane
shouldve beaten india in sydney

the whole thing is a farce to determine this on the back of 4 series.

how does a team make it when they havent beaten us in a series for 30 odd years.

end of the day we did only play 1 away series and drew that.

results fall our way and we may scrape in - doesn't change my views that the whole thing was already a mess and covid added to the mess.


That's like saying how does an AFL team win a premiership when they haven't beaten one particular other club for a decade.

The whole point of a non-defence/retention system in sport is that you don't have to 'beat the champ' to win.

Australia right now is a very average test team. Imagine hypothetically that NZ had beaten India in India, England in England, and SA in SA.

Now would you really turn around and try to repeal their status as the best team in the world because "hang on we just discovered that NZ hasn't beaten the 4-5th best team in the world for 30 years."?

Having a team you lose to all the time doesn't preclude you from being the best any more than losing almost every time he played Rafael Nadal for about 5-6 years would have precluded Federer from being the #1 tennis player from 05-10 or whatever arbitrary period you want to nominate.
 
That's like saying how does an AFL team win a premiership when they haven't beaten one particular other club for a decade.

The whole point of a non-defence/retention system in sport is that you don't have to 'beat the champ' to win.

Australia right now is a very average test team. Imagine hypothetically that NZ had beaten India in India, England in England, and SA in SA.

Now would you really turn around and try to repeal their status as the best team in the world because "hang on we just discovered that NZ hasn't beaten the 4-5th best team in the world for 30 years."?

Having a team you lose to all the time doesn't preclude you from being the best any more than losing almost every time he played Rafael Nadal for about 5-6 years would have precluded Federer from being the #1 tennis player from 05-10 or whatever arbitrary period you want to nominate.


30 years is a little different to a decade.

you can't compare afl to the wtc. during the afl cycle 'premiership season, everyone plays everyone.

the wtc doesn't allow everyone to play everyone during the championship cycle.

in any case i doubt an afl has won the flag but eluded to beat a team for 10 years.


not sure you can say the aussie team are average at the moment. sure the last 2 tests weren't great, but we were ranked #1 prior to that test series.
you could throw a blanket of 3-4 teams at the moment for the best test team - but average is harsh. even if australia are 4th best, thats still not 'average' - it's more a case of - not as per australia's lofty and high expectations.
 
30 years is a little different to a decade.

you can't compare afl to the wtc. during the afl cycle 'premiership season, everyone plays everyone.

the wtc doesn't allow everyone to play everyone during the championship cycle.

in any case i doubt an afl has won the flag but eluded to beat a team for 10 years.


not sure you can say the aussie team are average at the moment. sure the last 2 tests weren't great, but we were ranked #1 prior to that test series.
you could throw a blanket of 3-4 teams at the moment for the best test team - but average is harsh. even if australia are 4th best, thats still not 'average' - it's more a case of - not as per australia's lofty and high expectations.


Well no it isn't.

They play each other an average of once every two and a half years during those 30 and Australia has thought it fit to grant NZ one visit over there in 11 years.

I'm pretty sure you can say a team who has won 0 series away from home in 5 years, and who lost to a 2/3rd string Indian side, as well as other defeats at home to India and South Africa in that time is average.

Using your relatively loose criteria for defining what can and can't constitute a high-ranked side (like not beating a team for 30 years), I would say that's the mark of an incredibly f***en average side.
 

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