There is a possibility that Campo got it ass backwards and Stengle will actually prefer being in the SANFL environment where there is way less scrutiny. My Eagles buddy told me it was Stengle who approached the club.
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Quite possibly, however he's not going to escape it entirely. You can hear individual comments far more at an SANFL game than an AFL game.There is a possibility that Campo got it ass backwards and Stengle will actually prefer being in the SANFL environment where there is way less scrutiny. My Eagles buddy told me it was Stengle who approached the club.
Even if he sucks it's two years of salary paid out plus list spot taken upThe idea of a Stengle led back to back premiership seems kind of masturbatory.
You do you fella, whatever you do in the privacy of your own home is up to youThe idea of a Stengle led back to back premiership seems kind of masturbatory.
Even if he sucks it's two years of salary paid out plus list spot taken up
So we may as well use him
Not too many drafts where a pretty decent small forward prospect can't be picked up 2nd round onwards and quite often they're capable of input in their 1st season even. The one attribute that I like to see in a small forward both Stengle and Rowe seem to lack....raw speed which allows high end defensive pressure and run down tackling in the scoring zone. I think at least Rowe will have the commitment and hunger to succeed that Stengle appears to lack.We're in a position we can payout that salary though if we want to opt for that direction. Stengle would not be on a lot and it's not like we should be anywhere else than the floor of the cap.
For me, this depends on Rowe. If Rowe comes in and offers similar if not better output then Stengle on both sides of the ball, I'd delist Stengle unless he came back to us in superb nick (and if he does that, I'd reward Stengle with a lifeline, he's earned his shot at redemption). If Rowe doesn't take his chance with both hands, I'd be much more lenient with Stengle providing he doesn't get into trouble (you can only tolerate someone being continuously stupid for so long) or go backwards with fitness. After all, in that scenario, Rowe is probably not the answer to our small forward problems.
Not too many drafts where a pretty decent small forward prospect can't be picked up 2nd round onwards and quite often they're capable of input in their 1st season even. The one attribute that I like to see in a small forward both Stengle and Rowe seem to lack....raw speed which allows high end defensive pressure and run down tackling in the scoring zone. I think at least Rowe will have the commitment and hunger to succeed that Stengle appears to lack.
I'll be stunned if Rowe doesn't play rd.1.
Even more stunned if Stengle is ever the reason he is dropped
I'll use Dennis Rodman to illustrate my thoughts on the matter.
1. You can live hard off the field and still be a valuable professional sportsperson and teammate where it counts - GameDay.
2. If you're a professional sportsperson who wants to party, you'd better make bloody sure you're a valuable player to the team. This relies on talent and work rate.
Rodman was elite in his role as a defensive vice in his prime. Stengel is not elite at anything, he's average with signs of potential. So from Tyson's perspective, he either steps up on the field, or he removes off field issues that make it easy for the club to pick someone else who is less trouble.
As an aside, I don't think it's the club's responsibility to tend to his ongoing wellbeing. It's the AFL, as his actual employer, that needs to provide the support. The club has to administer a lean list, there's no room for charity, especially with recent changes. It's the AFLs system, they are the employer, they need to provide and fund the support.
It's amazing when losses start piling up how quickly indescretions get forgotten. It's all well and good for the hierarchy at the club to be having a pious high horse attitude in the "off-season" but let's see if they have the same attitude"in-season" and especially if we are sitting at 1 and 10.Yup, adding one or two more small forward prospects from the back end of the draft would not be something I'd shy away from in the near future either. We have some potentially good pieces, but when your best player is a 26-year-old going into his second year as a best 22 option, it's certainly not in that healthy of a state for a rebuilding side, as much as McAdam could genuinely be a cult hero by the end of his time in Adelaide (and useful when we're kicking out of the rebuild).
Speed is certainly the breakpoint of both of their profiles. It does make it easier to impact defensively and both players do inevitably live and die on their defensive impact. Still, if Betts can find a way to become an above-average defensive player, then at least it's possible Stengle and Rowe could end up doing something similar, as Eddie wasn't blessed with blistering pace. It would mean though that both couldn't co-exist in a lineup, and inevitably we'd be faced in finding a Cameron like player to compliment if either of them makes it. Life would become very easy if Newchurch could become that player (with his own spin on it of course), though its certainly an "I'll believe it when I see it" kind of deal.
I do expect that Rowe will bury Stengles career pretty quickly though.
It's amazing when losses start piling up how quickly indescretions get forgotten. It's all well and good for the hierarchy at the club to be having a pious high horse attitude in the "off-season" but let's see if they have the same attitude"in-season" and especially if we are sitting at 1 and 10.
Many seem to think that Rowe is the third coming of Betts and Rioli merged into one without the "rookie" even playing 1 game. Good luck meeting those expectations. I think that line of thinking is pure "hope" so that it backs up their opinion to get rid of Stengle for something half our playing group does in the off season. If Rowe is picked which is debatable I believe it will only take a number of weeks to ascertain that Stengle is our best option as a goal kicking small forward.
I think they will play McAdam, Jones, Murphy up forward and pinch hit Jones in the middle and rest Schoenberg up forward when he does.I don't think it's debatable that Rowe will get picked at all. He comes in as a ready to go small forward into a list that needs small forward depth, and his main roadblock has been abandoned in the football equivalent of Siberia. Who overtakes him? Newchurch is raw, McHenry and Jones aren't small forwards and if they're replacing anyone, it's Murphy as that defensive small, Cook and Davis are likely fighting McAdam (though Davis is admittedly a smokey for this spot).
Really, Rowe and Stengle have a very similar record in the 2nds, with Rowes 2020 being the best of the lot (though, I would expect Stengle to peel off 45-50 goals if he played in the reserves). I would go so far as to say if Rowe doesn't have that spot in round 1 and isn't injured, then we can go ahead and delist him. After all, he needs to impact quickly because he doesn't have the safety blanket of being a developing kid and he's never getting a better opportunity to get a debut.
It's not debatable at all, Rowe will be picked in R1. And NO ONE is comparing him to Betts or Rioli that's just some rubbish you made upIt's amazing when losses start piling up how quickly indescretions get forgotten. It's all well and good for the hierarchy at the club to be having a pious high horse attitude in the "off-season" but let's see if they have the same attitude"in-season" and especially if we are sitting at 1 and 10.
Many seem to think that Rowe is the third coming of Betts and Rioli merged into one without the "rookie" even playing 1 game. Good luck meeting those expectations. I think that line of thinking is pure "hope" so that it backs up their opinion to get rid of Stengle for something half our playing group does in the off season. If Rowe is picked which is debatable I believe it will only take a number of weeks to ascertain that Stengle is our best option as a goal kicking small forward.
Who is making claims Rowe will be as good as Betts & Rioli?It's amazing when losses start piling up how quickly indescretions get forgotten. It's all well and good for the hierarchy at the club to be having a pious high horse attitude in the "off-season" but let's see if they have the same attitude"in-season" and especially if we are sitting at 1 and 10.
Many seem to think that Rowe is the third coming of Betts and Rioli merged into one without the "rookie" even playing 1 game. Good luck meeting those expectations. I think that line of thinking is pure "hope" so that it backs up their opinion to get rid of Stengle for something half our playing group does in the off season. If Rowe is picked which is debatable I believe it will only take a number of weeks to ascertain that Stengle is our best option as a goal kicking small forward.
It's amazing when losses start piling up how quickly indescretions get forgotten. It's all well and good for the hierarchy at the club to be having a pious high horse attitude in the "off-season" but let's see if they have the same attitude"in-season" and especially if we are sitting at 1 and 10.
Many seem to think that Rowe is the third coming of Betts and Rioli merged into one without the "rookie" even playing 1 game. Good luck meeting those expectations. I think that line of thinking is pure "hope" so that it backs up their opinion to get rid of Stengle for something half our playing group does in the off season. If Rowe is picked which is debatable I believe it will only take a number of weeks to ascertain that Stengle is our best option as a goal kicking small forward.
Gave that up years ago. Was best in town though.I want what you're smoking
... but let's see if they have the same attitude"in-season" and especially if we are sitting at 1 and 10.
Imagine letting Carey, Ablett, Williams or any of the many, many other great football talents go from your football club because they had different personal values.
Me too.All I have said is I want quality committed players at our club who act professionally.
Agree.Someone who fu**-ups 3 times in a year is not professional
Oh well, you got 2 out of 3. Not bad.& never will be.
I want what you're smoking