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Thomas/Pendlebury V Ellis/Dowler

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It's interesting to look at these 4 players. Collingwood at the time seemed to have picked a couple of players out of the blue but having seen a fair bit of both Thomas and Pendlebury you can see why.

Thomas reminds me alot of a young James Hird. He seems to have alot of "footy smarts" and has a reputation of coming up good in the big games. He also has that x-factor, like Hird he can do something special. These traits seem to suggest he will be a very good player for Collingwood. Of course he is still young and there's a long way to go, but I think you're onto a good thing here.

Pendlebury has great ballance. That seems to be his biggest asset. I've seen alot of him in the VFL last year and he does have that natural ability to find the ball and then use it well. A good solid package and because of his age he could still go on to be anything. Another good call by the Pie recruiters.

Ellis was picked as a long term prospect, everyone knew he probably wouldn't play any football last year and would only be a part timer at training. This year he has had some injury setbacks, but from what I've heard he is a very promising young player. Represented his school well last year and if he was in this years draft he would have gone early as well. Because he hasn't played a game at the top level it's probably too early for anyone to have anything difinitive to say about him.

Dowler had an interupted season last year with his injury. He came into the side late in the season for a couple of games where he spent a lot of time on the pine, I was surprised he got up for a game at AFL level so early. He played alot of time down back for Box Hill last year, probably as a part of his "football education" so he didn't really get a chance to show his credentials as a key forward. Based on what people have seen you can say this season will be one where he spends most of his time trying to find his feet in the VFL and will probably come into the side a few times throughout the middle and end of the season, which will give a better indication of what sort of player he could be.

All in all I think Collingwood got a couple of players with a lot of upside who also have the ability to make an imidiate impact. Hawthorn picked up a couple of players with a lot of upside who weren't going to make an imidiate impact. It shows so far. Lets just hope all of these boys can keep on coming on and all become a big part of their respective teams success'.
 
Thomas and Pendlebury have shown that they aren't out of place on an AFL list, and infact look like great young prospects, so in that sense they are way ahead of Ellis and Dowler who haven't had that opportunity.
 
as new member of bigfooty you might not take my opinion seriously but noetheless i have played footy with thomas pendlebury and in particular ellis as a collingwood supporter it is hard to say that i think we made a bad choice in the draft, Xave is gonna be a superstar of the comp in a couple years, he is a natural footballer, Dipper(pendlebury) is a pure athlete, gun basketballer who's second sport was football and Thomas is just a freak, much the same as Akermanis.....
 

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ill give u a short anwer... and by no means am i being a smartarse... we have 2 superstars in the making... ur boys will be servicable at best... not matchwinners... i understand its still early days and wont know for 2-3 years... but im pretty sure im right about this one....

Thats a big call. Fair enough having confidence in our boys but surely its nothing more than a guess on the young hawks. 1 played school footy last year and the other is kpp how had a serious car crash and his development was held back.

No one really knows at this stage but if I was a hawks fan I would not be losing sleep over these kids just yet. They could turn out to be stars. Lets re-visit in 2/3 years
 
Having a non-bias look at it at the moment thomas/pendlebury are way in front but if you look at it in a long term manner i think ellis/dowler will be better for thier club. Ellis will be a good player dont worry about that. Thomas is a match winner but how often? you want a consistent player and ellis will give that to the hawks
 
I couldn't even guess as to who will end up in front. Haven't seen anything (at the top level) of Dowler and Ellis, though all reports are encouraging.
Pendlebury and Thomas have both already shown plenty, I think Pendlebury in particular will be a gem.
 
They were 2 very raw games where it was obvious he wasn't quite ready.

It's fair to say our two early picks are a year behind Collingwood's but Birchall (pick 14) has come on very nicely for us.
 

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Yeh Birchall finished up last season quite nicely.
I am looking forward to seeing Ellis and Dowler out there on the track next year just to see how they go.
 
Im not liked too much on this board.. If u dont like what i have to say go ******** urself....
Perhaps it might have to do with the terrible attitude and ridiculous bias...

Don't go talking to fellow supporters like that, or you'll face the same fate that an opposition supporter would if they were acting like this.
 

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Have to await for another 3 years....then ill tell you. So far so good.

Agree with you, Thomo is going to be a star!!! Alot of players suffer from the "2nd year blues" but i dought this will happen with thomo.

I think Scott will be a better player than what most people think, his disposal is good and he is calm under pressure. We need speed in the midfield, and he looked good against stkilda.
 
but what excactly proves that i am wrong? in terms of what has been achieved at this point in time what evidence is there.. All we are all doing here is speculating about four young lads.. two of which have shown promise and the other have shown jack..

like i said how am i wrong.. how am i deluded? when u go to court u are judged on evidence provided.. not speculation... however proffesional opinions are sometimes used... but i dont see mick malthouse or derek hine in here?
 
but what excactly proves that i am wrong? in terms of what has been achieved at this point in time what evidence is there.. All we are all doing here is speculating about four young lads.. two of which have shown promise and the other have shown jack..

like i said how am i wrong.. how am i deluded? when u go to court u are judged on evidence provided.. not speculation... however proffesional opinions are sometimes used... but i dont see mick malthouse or derek hine in here?

you don't see judges saying that ridiculous bias is part of any good verdict, your honour.
 
you don't see judges saying that ridiculous bias is part of any good verdict, your honour.


but judges do state their own beliefs... no matter how stupid they are.. re.. judegs who said 9/11 was over rated.

those are my final words.....

by the way pendles and thomas will be guns.. ellis and dfowler will be list fillers.. thats why we didnt pick them...

so i lied...
 

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