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Hi guys interested in your thoughts as I find it puzzling that society still doesn't place the same prestigious value on a trade qualification that they do on a degree.
To me they are different but equal.
Thoughts ?
Law degrees are the cubic zirconias of qualifications. Jump on tinder, every single mum aged 25-35 has one. They must hand the MFers out in cornflakes boxes now or something?Im a lawyer and my sparky mates earn more than me.
So I dont get it.
Law degrees are the cubic zirconias of qualifications. Jump on tinder, every single mum aged 25-35 has one. They must hand the MFers out in cornflakes boxes now or something?
In some poorer Asian countries, white skin and a fat wallet halves your age and adds a foot to your height.I miss those days.
Now I'm mid 40's and I get the divorcees with kids and crazy anti-vaxx 'life coaches' that no-one will marry because they're insane.
I need to move overseas again where a foreign accent is worth a 10 year reduction in dating age.
Apprentices are paid to learn while university students pay to learn. I presume employment outcomes are better for apprentices too.Apprentices wages are pretty ordinary, particularly in the building industry.
In some poorer Asian countries, white skin and a fat wallet halves your age and adds a foot to your height.
Cos they arent as good.Prestige, respect and most importantly seen as just as good an option for kids once they leave school.
A divorcee with kids ain't necessarily a bad thing. That's what you get in the dating pool once 30+, nevermind 40+. We've all made dumb decisions by then, no need to go all sex-tourist overseas.I miss those days.
Now I'm mid 40's and I get the divorcees with kids and crazy anti-vaxx 'life coaches' that no-one will marry because they're insane.
I need to move overseas again where a foreign accent is worth a 10 year reduction in dating age.
Apprentices get up at 5am in winter to go crawl through freezing mud for half the minimum wage. Having completed a commerce degree and an electrician apprenticeship, I would personally prefer to see funding shunted to the latter.Apprentices are paid to learn while university students pay to learn. I presume employment outcomes are better for apprentices too.
Tradies had to prove their worth via exams and work ethic. Uni grads are only required to pass the former, which in some degrees you "pass" exams at 40%An apprenticeship is only as good as the tradesman. sh*t Tradie=sh*t apprentice=turns up late (if ever), does a sh*t job and overcharges you.
A degree on the other hand is usually a professionally recognised education delivered by experts in your chosen field of study.
Yes but they arent getting paid to go to uni unlike an apprentice who gets paid. In fact uni students pay to go to uni. Get the difference? Ones a job. The other is an expenditure.Apprentices get up at 5am in winter to go crawl through freezing mud for half the minimum wage. Having completed a commerce degree and an electrician apprenticeship, I would personally prefer to see funding shunted to the latter.
I know some degrees (medicine, veterinarian etc) are extremely difficult, but anyone who has set foot on a uni campus knows that many of them wake up at midday and take it pretty easy.
Yup and I imagine that this is what lead to the current stereotype that tradies are lower class, as attending uni was for privileged kids who didn't need an immediate wage. My trade school cost was about $600 a semester from memory, whilst the commerce degree was 5 to 10 fold this cost. Perhaps we need free degrees in fields that benefit society such as STEM.Yes but they arent getting paid to go to uni unlike an apprentice who gets paid. In fact uni students pay to go to uni. Get the difference? Ones a job. The other is an expenditure.
ps. I worked far harder at uni then i do now. You also forget most uni students are working a seperate job on top of their studying.
There is indeed a privlege advantage with unis. There are the kids who live at home off their parents wealth and just rock up to class at midday and then there are the kids at uni who also work 20 hours a week unskilled work to pay rent and bills whilst living in a 4 person share house. When you have 20 hours less a week to study it puts you at a major disadvantage.Yup and I imagine that this is what lead to the current stereotype that tradies are lower class, as attending uni was for privileged kids who didn't need an immediate wage. My trade school cost was about $600 a semester from memory, whilst the commerce degree was 5 to 10 fold this cost. Perhaps we need free degrees in fields that benefit society such as STEM.
Harder than.Yes but they arent getting paid to go to uni unlike an apprentice who gets paid. In fact uni students pay to go to uni. Get the difference? Ones a job. The other is an expenditure.
ps. I worked far harder at uni then i do now.
You actually need to be smart to turn a decent coin out of law. Probably the top 5% or so. Mostly its infested by career students who strut around campus taking 10 years to complete a degree while the stem students crank it out in engineering or medicine. Psychology, Socialism and Journalism students are the same.Law degrees are the cubic zirconias of qualifications. Jump on tinder, every single mum aged 25-35 has one. They must hand the MFers out in cornflakes boxes now or something?
It's never too late to get a STEM or tradie qualification. Help design and build the world, instead of complicating it.
You actually need to be smart to turn a decent coin out of law. Probably the top 5% or so. Mostly its infested by career students who strut around campus taking 10 years to complete a degree while the stem students crank it out in engineering or medicine. Psychology, Socialism and Journalism students are the same.