Toast Jamarra Ugle-Hagan - Welcome to the club

[dergert]

Has he requested a trade to Essendon yet?

 

[darklake]

Hope he's not the next Zephaniah Skinner

Zephaniah Skinner

Age

34

Ht

189cm

Wt

79kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

7.1

2star

K

3.5

1star

HB

3.6

3star

M

1.6

2star

T

1.0

3star

G

0.6

4star

No current season stats available

D

6.0

2star

K

3.2

2star

HB

2.8

3star

M

1.0

1star

T

1.4

4star

G

0.8

4star

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[Bro_Pro]

People thinking he’s going to get a gig before round 5 are wishful thinking! Unless he improves his match fitness a lot he’s going to be playing VFL for a while which is understandable as the amount of footy he missed last year.

 

[Dazb86]

People thinking he’s going to get a gig before round 5 are wishful thinking! Unless he improves his match fitness a lot he’s going to be playing VFL for a while which is understandable as the amount of footy he missed last year.

I'd be happy to wait for him to get a gig based on VFL output and putting in the hard yards at training. At the moment you'd have to say Schache is ahead of him for a KPF role. There's no need to rush him into the side.

 

[maddog37]

I would play him ASAP. Get fit playing ones.

 

[Bro_Pro]

I would play him ASAP. Get fit playing ones.

I don’t think so by what I seen at the VFL match Monday! He’s a bit off AFL at the moment and all that would be doing is playing him because he’s the “number one pick”. I get what your saying but I think it would be a bad move. Hopefully mid year he’s right to go.

 

[dergert]

I would play him ASAP. Get fit playing ones.

Get him used to our chaotic fwd 50 entries nice and early?

 

[The 4th Horseman]

Beveridge has already announced that his fitness isn’t quite there at the moment, which is completely understandable with the amount of time out of footy he has had. We’re all excited to see what Jamarra can do but it would better to play him in the 2s to build match fitness as well as confidence. Thinking he’ll play about 5-6 games this year and none before round 5.

 

[VitalDread]

Hope Dogs have another pre-season match this weekend.

But from the one game i have seen live, and i'm the Number 1 Ticket Holder for his Wagon

I wouldn't be playing him to at least Round 7-8 of VFL
Allow him to really develop that tank and get used to beating mature bodies

At the time hes a 90% player, everything he jumps for is a "hands on it but doesn't take the mark" which is just game reps he needs to get

 

[Sharkey66]

Hope Dogs have another pre-season match this weekend.

But from the one game i have seen live, and i'm the Number 1 Ticket Holder for his Wagon

I wouldn't be playing him to at least Round 7-8 of VFL
Allow him to really develop that tank and get used to beating mature bodies

At the time hes a 90% player, everything he jumps for is a "hands on it but doesn't take the mark" which is just game reps he needs to get

doe we know when the vfl season starts?

 

[VitalDread]

doe we know when the vfl season starts?

April 17th

 

[Sharkey66]

April 17th

thanks mate

 

[True Dog]

As many have said including the coach fittness is his biggest short term hurdle. The kid can make something out of nothing but until he develops power and strength he needs fitness to keep him mobile and get to more contests. With quarters back to full length and less interchange he'll struggle to play early in the year maybe a couple of games later depending how we're travelling.

 

[Dannnnnnnnnn]

JUH is the first decent KPF prospect we've had in a long time that has the luxury of not being rushed into the AFL team. We're mad not to take advantage of that imo.

With Bruce, Naughton, Schache; rucks in Martin, English; flexible players like Bont; more mature pinch-hitters like Young, Cordy, Gardner; and smaller players that can play much taller such as Wallis, Hannan, Dunkley, and Weightman, there is absolutely no sense in rushing JUH. The only scenarios in which we should see him in the AFL side this year are (1) if he smashes the door down, or (2) in case of significant injury burden. Otherwise he plays VFL.

For the first time in a long time, our fortunes aren't linked to the "next big thing" coming on as quickly as possible. JUH should be allowed to earn the spotlight, not have it immediately shone upon his every rookie mistake as has happened with many recent KPF prospects.

 

[Dogs_R_Us]

JUH is the first decent KPF prospect we've had in a long time that has the luxury of not being rushed into the AFL team. We're mad not to take advantage of that imo.

With Bruce, Naughton, Schache; rucks in Martin, English; flexible players like Bont; more mature pinch-hitters like Young, Cordy, Gardner; and smaller players that can play much taller such as Wallis, Hannan, Dunkley, and Weightman, there is absolutely no sense in rushing JUH. The only scenarios in which we should see him in the AFL side this year are (1) if he smashes the door down, or (2) in case of significant injury burden. Otherwise he plays VFL.

For the first time in a long time, our fortunes aren't linked to the "next big thing" coming on as quickly as possible. JUH should be allowed to earn the spotlight, not have it immediately shone upon his every rookie mistake as has happened with many recent KPF prospects.

Jack Watts springs to mind, unfortunately

 

[Roscoe_au]

Jack Watts springs to mind, unfortunately

If it wasn't for COVID and JUH missing a heap of competitive footy, you could look at what the King boys did in their first years of AFL as well as Buddy after he was drafted.

But you and the others are right. He doesn't have to be thrust into the team because of necessity. It would be nice though...the hype around this kid is nothing like we've had at the club for a long time. I can't even remember if there was much fanfare when the Bont played his first game in the Seniors?

 

[weltschmerz]

If it wasn't for COVID and JUH missing a heap of competitive footy, you could look at what the King boys did in their first years of AFL as well as Buddy after he was drafted.

But you and the others are right. He doesn't have to be thrust into the team because of necessity. It would be nice though...the hype around this kid is nothing like we've had at the club for a long time. I can't even remember if there was much fanfare when the Bont played his first game in the Seniors?

As someone who hasn’t followed footy for very long - how early did it become clear that Bont was a really special player?

 

[Roscoe_au]

As someone who hasn’t followed footy for very long - how early did it become clear that Bont was a really special player?

Bontempelli top draft Dog (westernbulldogs.com.au)

Doesn't read like we were building a wagon the size of Noah's Arc for everyone to jump on. I dont know?

 

[stevieg1969]

As someone who hasn’t followed footy for very long - how early did it become clear that Bont was a really special player?

I’m fairly certain he kicked 3 goals in his first quarter for Werribee - so it was pretty early.

 

[maddog37]

As someone who hasn’t followed footy for very long - how early did it become clear that Bont was a really special player?

Very first game he played in the VFL.

It was a too good to be true performance that he soon showed to be the norm.

Memories do get glossier over time though.....

 

[Here we go dogs]

As someone who hasn’t followed footy for very long - how early did it become clear that Bont was a really special player?

I remember bont kicked about 5 out of the middle against Sandringham in his second or third vfl game. Bont looked like an absolute man mountain up close watching his early vfl games

 

[LittleG]

I remember bont kicked about 5 out of the middle against Sandringham in his second or third vfl game. Bont looked like an absolute man mountain up close watching his early vfl games

People raved about his first quarter and the question was about whether it was a fluke or not.... the game he kicked 5 showed everyone he was just way too good for vfl.
T Boyd was suppose to be the saviour that year.... Bont wasn’t even in the mix for top 3?!?!?

 

[Custard Guts]

As someone who hasn’t followed footy for very long - how early did it become clear that Bont was a really special player?

Yeah it didn't take long.

 

[Dannnnnnnnnn]

Bont pretty much immediately looked like a generational player when he stepped into the AFL side (~ mid year?). I was worried about him as a junior but that doubt quickly washed away. His VFL form was pretty good, with clear progression, but then as soon as he played AFL you could see he was special.

But - Bont didn't play in a position where 100% of the time, your opponent's whole job description is "don't let this guy breathe," nor did he miss a season of footy.

 

[Dogforever]

Bontempelli was an obvious star very early on.
However records show that in his 4 VFL games in 2014 he kicked 2 goals.