Not really some schools have academies with the help of the VRU and Rebels and that’s it. Otherwise you aren’t allowed to play itYes but that’s the past yeah? I’m guessing it’s played these days?
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Not really some schools have academies with the help of the VRU and Rebels and that’s it. Otherwise you aren’t allowed to play itYes but that’s the past yeah? I’m guessing it’s played these days?
Nudgee has over 30 rugby sides think they would be rightI'm guessing many schools are worried that if given the option to play Australian football, they'd choose that over rugby and then they may not be able to field a team. They've only got so many boys, and you can't really play both.
It is funny how important schools over east can take their sport - over here the PSA schools take it pretty seriously, but by then players would have had long club careers. Other schools (i.e the vast majority) don't play on weekends, and players would simply play for their club as well.
really? I seem to recall rugby in my Vic aps school going back to foundation. granted it was considered a sport for thicko toffs, but it was never bannedFor years Rugby was banned in public schools in Vic. These things happen every where I guess
Not really some schools have academies with the help of the VRU and Rebels and that’s it. Otherwise you aren’t allowed to play it
For years Rugby was banned in public schools in Vic. These things happen every where I guess
Private schools not public schoolsRU has been played in elite "public" schools in Victoria since the late 19th century.
VSRU - History
History of the Victorian Schools' Rugby Union - home of Schoolboy Rugby in Victoria.www.vsru.com.au
An APS school is private butreally? I seem to recall rugby in my Vic aps school going back to foundation. granted it was considered a sport for thicko toffs, but it was never banned
Plenty of parts of Melbourne filled with islander kids that you could get rugby going. It was banned for PE as it was considered to dangerous, it is only allowed now to be played in PE or at school if you have a specialist rugby coachYeah as RedV3x implied, you might be confusing "not available" with "not allowed to play". More a case of there just not being sufficient demand for rugby than institutions actively resisting the code like the Qld GPS appear to be doing with football
Plenty of parts of Melbourne filled with islander kids that you could get rugby going. It was banned for PE as it was considered to dangerous, it is only allowed now to be played in PE or at school if you have a specialist rugby coach
Plenty of parts of Melbourne filled with islander kids that you could get rugby going. It was banned for PE as it was considered to dangerous, it is only allowed now to be played in PE or at school if you have a specialist rugby coach
What are you on about champ? There are rugby programs at 3 government high schools in the state it’s hardly like they are spending big moneyI very much doubt that the VRU has the finances to fund the development officers/coaches to allow rugby to be played in these schools whilst I would almost be certain the AFLQ is offering this in the Qld APS.
What are you on about champ? There are rugby programs at 3 government high schools in the state it’s hardly like they are spending big money
The point is until recently they weren’t even able to do that. Also it wasn’t the VRU that brought about the change it was some kiwi high school teacher. There was an article about it in the age a year or so back. He saw how rugby was used in NZ to help keep kids in school and he got permission to trail a rugby program and it’s now supported by the education department as now the islander kids have a higher high school completion rate now as you have to keep your attendance and grades up to participateThe VRU clearly wouldn't have the resources that AFLQ does and that would limit the number of RU programs in government schools.
Yeah and drop the "champ" bit.
Try tapping the video and checking if it's been muted in the bottom right corner. The video explains that the GPS in Brisbane is preventing its constituent schools from offering Australian Rules as a sport, so students have to play at external clubs. Also explains that the AIC schools play Australian rules, and that Harris Andrews and Charlie Cameron came from that comp.Can someone please explain in plain english what that ch10 video explains? The sound doesn't work on Twitter links for some reason.
Try tapping the video and checking if it's been muted in the bottom right corner. The video explains that the GPS in Brisbane is preventing its constituent schools from offering Australian Rules as a sport, so students have to play at external clubs. Also explains that the AIC schools play Australian rules, and that Harris Andrews and Charlie Cameron came from that comp.
What are you on about champ? There are rugby programs at 3 government high schools in the state it’s hardly like they are spending big money
Also it wasn’t the VRU that brought about the change it was some kiwi high school teacher.
The point is until recently they weren’t even able to do that. Also it wasn’t the VRU that brought about the change it was some kiwi high school teacher. There was an article about it in the age a year or so back. He saw how rugby was used in NZ to help keep kids in school and he got permission to trail a rugby program and it’s now supported by the education department as now the islander kids have a higher high school completion rate now as you have to keep your attendance and grades up to participate
We don’t even know if the GPS have deliberately blocked it, it’s a minority sport there. They likely don’t have the numbers for them to field football programs and when they compare the GPS to the AIC they don’t mention the fact that AIC hand out scholarship to support their football programs.Nothing you'd said indicates any analogy to the Qld GPS situation or that there has been a deliberate campaign in Vic government schools to exclude RU to protect football. The GPS in Qld are clearly acting to protect the interests of RU like they have since the 1880s. when they narrowly adopted RU over football. It's not just confined to our game, they haven't and don't allow any RL even though there would be significant interest amongst many students.
give it up man!We don’t even know if the GPS have deliberately blocked it, it’s a minority sport there. They likely don’t have the numbers for them to field football programs and when they compare the GPS to the AIC they don’t mention the fact that AIC hand out scholarship to support their football programs.
You are incorrect.We don’t even know if the GPS have deliberately blocked it [Incorrect], it’s a minority sport there. They likely don’t have the numbers [Incorrect] for them to field football programs and when they compare the GPS to the AIC they don’t mention the fact that AIC hand out scholarship [Very few for AF; & irrelevant to GPS opposition to full season, all classes' AF comps. across whole GPS] to support their football programs.
1. abc Offsiders program 21.3.21
In posts #3557 (point 2) & 3562 above, I wrote about the strong growth of jnr female GR club AF in Sydney; & also how the AFLW is turbocharging this growth- even though the much more prominent Swans (cf GWS) do not yet have an AFLW team. The lack of an AFL team in their Zone "handicaps" female GR growth.
On Offsiders, K. Underwood said, referring to the AFLW's growth prospects
"The best players in the comp. this year are the teenagers, they are so good that are coming through. From what I have seen this year, I have no doubt the next 5 years, this is going to be the number 1 women's comp. in Australia...The rate of improvement has gone through the roof, we'll see that rate continue to skyrocket".
Fellow panellist C. Wilson agreed with K. Underwood. Fellow panellists A. Nicholson & W. Alley did not dispute the claim that the AFLW will become the no.1 female comp. in c.5 years- it could be inferred they agreed with it.
(The AFLW has continued to increase its ratings in 2021- & usually outrates, like for like time & medium, the A League men's & women's, Super netball, & NBL)- but the AFLW ratings plummet c. 50-70% when the AFL starts. Rd. 8 of the AFLW in 2021, however, is, apparently, the highest ever for Rd. 8).
W. Ally said
"The expansion teams now (I assume referring to St Kilda, Gold Coast, West Coast, & Richmond in 2020.) are playing better football than the foundation teams in the first year [2017. My words & emphases in brackets]".
(Go to Offsiders 21.3 program- then go to 24 mins.5 secs. - 25 mins. 50 secs.)Offsiders: Sunday 21/3/2021
Kelli Underwood joins Alister Nicholson, Caroline Wilson and Waleed Aly review all the action from the first round of the AFL, the latest in the NRL, and fallout from the scathing review into the leadership of the Hockeyroos.iview.abc.net.au
If Underwood's prediction eventuates, this will obviously provide a massive lift in GR AF female comp. nos. all over Sydney, & the rest of NSW, ACT, & Qld.
On Sports Nation radio, D. Hartford, apparently, agrees that the AFLW has lost momentum this year- & the only solution to the decline in AFLW ratings etc. is for the AFLW to start much earlier ie no overlap with the AFL.
2.
You are incorrect.
Just as here is already strong support in the Brisbane AIC private school AF full season comps. after it was introduced in 2019, when GPS students were previously offered opportunities to play AF in the Brisbane GPS, AF there easily attracted strong nos. to make teams.
You have also disregarded the booming jnr AF club nos. across Greater Brisbane, including areas where GPS schools are located.
The GPS is simply discriminating against AF.
See my post today in the "Will Football Overtake League in NSW & Qld" thread for more info.- including the extraordinary low no. of only 124 club contact RU teams , from U12-U18 inclusive, in the Greater Brisbane jnr club RU comp.in 2019. GR AF player nos. are superior FAR