Analysis Giants Coaching. Congratulations Adam Kingsley & welcome to GWS.

Who is your preference to be next coach of GWS Giants?

  • Alistair Clarkson

    Votes: 22 26.8%
  • James Hird

    Votes: 7 8.5%
  • Don Pyke

    Votes: 7 8.5%
  • Nathan Buckley

    Votes: 3 3.7%
  • Ross Lyon

    Votes: 3 3.7%
  • Mark McVeigh

    Votes: 6 7.3%
  • Robert Harvey

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Scott Burns

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Blake Caracella

    Votes: 1 1.2%
  • Adam Yze

    Votes: 14 17.1%
  • Adam Kingsley

    Votes: 13 15.9%
  • Daniel Giansiracusa

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Luke Power

    Votes: 1 1.2%
  • Jaymie Graham

    Votes: 2 2.4%
  • Ash Hansen

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Andrew McQualter

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Chris Scott

    Votes: 3 3.7%

  • Total voters
    82

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The GIANTS are delighted to announce the appointment of Adam Kingsley as the club’s next AFL head coach.

As a former Premiership and Best and Fairest winner with Port Adelaide, where he played 170 games, Kingsley quickly moved into coaching following his playing career, immediately taking up assistant coaching roles with Port Adelaide and then St Kilda. After eight years with the Saints, Kingsley joined Richmond as assistant coach in 2019 where he played a leading role in the Tigers’ last two Premierships.

GIANTS Chief Executive Officer David Matthews said Kingsley's appointment marked the next chapter in the evolution of the football club. “On behalf of the Board and our entire organisation, I’m thrilled to confirm Adam Kingsley as our new head coach,” Mr Matthews said. “After a thorough and considered selection process, Adam’s vision for the club, our players and our people made him the standout candidate for the job. Adam has outstanding values that align with the GIANTS and with 16 years’ coaching experience he is an exceptional tactical coach, a strong, clear communicator, and someone who brings people together. In our 11 years in the competition we have undoubtedly become a successful club with a fantastic culture and a great playing list. But we haven’t been satisfied with our recent results. We - and Adam - believe success isn’t far away and we’re thrilled to have him lead us into our next chapter as a club. This is an incredibly exciting day for our club and Adam's appointment will not only take our playing group and football department forward but will help continue to grow our game across NSW and the ACT. We look forward to welcoming Adam, his wife Nadine and children Cayla, Ethan and Raf to the GIANTS family.”

Mr Matthews also paid tribute to caretaker coach Mark McVeigh. "We thank Mark for his efforts as interim senior coach and the tireless work he has contributed to our program since taking over in round 10,” Mr Matthews said. “It’s a difficult job to come in as caretaker coach but he attacked the role with fresh ideas and sought to improve our players, staff and program at every step. Mark is a person of the highest integrity and character, and he has always put the club first. He was steadfast in leaving the program ready for whoever would be taking over.”

Following an extensive interview process, Kingsley was deemed the best fit for the GIANTS by the club’s interview panel that consisted of Mr Matthews, Chairman Tony Shepherd AO, Football Director Jimmy Bartel and General Manager of Football Jason McCartney. Kingsley said he was honoured to have the opportunity to coach the club for the next three years. “This is an incredibly exciting opportunity,” he said. “It’s a privilege and an honour to be the next senior coach of the GIANTS. I’ve been clear in my aspirations to become a senior coach and over the last 16 years I’ve continued to learn and develop to the point now where I’m absolutely ready to take the next step in my coaching career. This is a club which has built a strong culture from the ground up in just a few short years. In just 11 years the GIANTS have made multiple preliminary finals, and a Grand Final, and while the ultimate success has eluded the club, it’s clear the building blocks are in place. It's clear the players, staff, members and fans are hungry for success, and we’re going to drive each other to get to where we want to go. I believe in this club and what we can achieve together.”

Kingsley played 170 games for Port Adelaide between 1997 and 2006 and was a member of the club’s inaugural team as well as their first Premiership in 2004. He won the Power’s club champion award in just his second season. In 2007, he became an assistant coach at Port Adelaide, a position in which he stayed in until the end of 2010. Kingsley joined St Kilda at the end of the 2010 season as an assistant coach before moving to Richmond in 2019.
 

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I like Leon, I feel like he has been genuinely great servant of our club. But it's time to go. He's tactically inept, looks like he's lost the players.

Question is, where do we go from here? Do we still have a list to challenge or are we going to tear it down?
 
I have not been on the anti-Leon bandwagon previously - it's a difficult business and a lot of factors go into any year with last year being especially problematic after a GF appearance the year before.

But that was an insipid effort with few complicating factors, and Freo having a lot more players missing - it's difficult to draw any conclusion other than Leon has run out of ideas. This season could turn very ugly if he cannot find a way to take on new ideas, because the ones he's got are not working!
 
The most damning part are the short bursts when the team puts it together and look good, these are happening because of competitive instincts of the players and not their want to play for the coach.

Cameron and McCarthy are now actually seen as poison, both have to go.

The AFL if they are genuine about this team need to get Clarkson and whoever he wants into the team to clean it up.

If they do not do this now the team will descend into something worse then we have ever seen in footy.
 
I like Leon, I feel like he has been genuinely great servant of our club. But it's time to go. He's tactically inept, looks like he's lost the players.

Question is, where do we go from here? Do we still have a list to challenge or are we going to tear it down?

Interim Coach for remainder of 2021 to assess how the list performs ex-Leon.

Make a two year appointment in September.


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I’d be looking to remove both Leon and McCartney. I like Leon and he seems like a great guy, but don’t the is tactically advanced to work through our issues.
We should be looking at Mark Williams (Chocko) not Clarko. What he has done for Richmond and now Melbourne (based on their matches so far) is amazing he hasn’t scored a gig as top dog. He is very highly rated by players and staff.


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As a supporter of a club who totally cocked this up some 18 months ago I think it's best to be considered re how this is approached.

If indeed at some stage during the season it's decided that Leon needs to finish up then I would not fill the interim appointment with someone who has aspirations for the top job (eg Stevie J or anyone of that ilk).

North stupidly did this with Rhyce Shaw being dropped in and effectively given a trial period. Sure enough he got the "new coach bounce" and then the Board came under immense pressure from the fans (and media) to appoint him permanently.

Which they did - without there being much, if any, of a formal process (which may have uncovered some of the drastic problems which later surfaced).

Personally I'd get someone like an Alan McConnell (who no longer presumably has coaching aspirations) to step in and then the club can spend the remainder of the season spending time sourcing the best candidate.

If it comes to pass it's a critical appointment and should be approached intelligently.
 

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In Leon's defence, the departure of Matthew Nicks as 2IC in 2020 hasn't been covered, just our small time coaching staff swapped around, with Johnson joining more by happenstance than planning. That is, he wasn't poached, he was freed up / let loose by Sydney. And on Sydney, Horse Longmire got Don Pyke as his assistant, someone of real experience.
Does Leon have enough help?
 
In Leon's defence, the departure of Matthew Nicks as 2IC in 2020 hasn't been covered
In Leon's condemnation, if our team's results tanks because of an assistant coach leaving it doesn't bode well for the senior coach.
 
If the strategy of the Board is to get Clarko for 2022 and concessions from AFL HQ, then the tactic may be to leave Leon in place and let the club burn very publicly throughout season 2021 to demonstrate to Gill that there is a full-blown crisis at Giants HQ.

I think this ‘scorched earth’ approach is extremely dangerous/reckless re list and membership retention, but there may be Board members who consider this a cynically smart play.

The thinking may be:

If we finish 10-16, the Giants have a problem.

However, if we finish 17-18, AFL HQ has a problem.

Personally, I want an interim HC appointed this week.

However, we should be open to the possibility that the Board may look to play ‘chicken’ with AFL HQ.



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If the strategy of the Board is to get Clarko for 2022 and concessions from AFL HQ, then the tactic may be to leave Leon in place and let the club burn very publicly throughout season 2021 to demonstrate to Gill that there is a full-blown crisis at Giants HQ.

I think this ‘scorched earth’ approach is extremely dangerous/reckless re list and membership retention, but there may be Board members who consider this a cynically smart play.

The thinking may be:

If we finish 10-16, the Giants have a problem.

However, if we finish 17-18, AFL HQ has a problem.

Personally, I want an interim HC appointed this week.

However, we should be open to the possibility that the Board may look to play ‘chicken’ with AFL HQ.



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Surely they aren’t that stupid. Destroy everything that’s been built just to get some more picks?
 
As a supporter of a club who totally cocked this up some 18 months ago I think it's best to be considered re how this is approached.

If indeed at some stage during the season it's decided that Leon needs to finish up then I would not fill the interim appointment with someone who has aspirations for the top job (eg Stevie J or anyone of that ilk).

North stupidly did this with Rhyce Shaw being dropped in and effectively given a trial period. Sure enough he got the "new coach bounce" and then the Board came under immense pressure from the fans (and media) to appoint him permanently.

Which they did - without there being much, if any, of a formal process (which may have uncovered some of the drastic problems which later surfaced).

Personally I'd get someone like an Alan McConnell (who no longer presumably has coaching aspirations) to step in and then the club can spend the remainder of the season spending time sourcing the best candidate.

If it comes to pass it's a critical appointment and should be approached intelligently.

Thanks for a thoughtful contribution, I can’t argue the facts of North’s coaching challenges.

However, it’s easy to come up with examples in pro sport that argue for a ‘Stevie J’ type appointment.

For example, at Real Madrid they’d been through a multi-year trophy drought ahead of the 2016 season.

They then appoint former club champion Zinedine Zidane who’s been knocking around as a junior coach at the club for 5 years.

Many people thought it would be a disaster, as he had no track record as a manager.

However, he then wins three consecutive Champions Leagues as a ‘player whisperer’ who’s highly respected by the dressing room for his stellar career.

So Stevie J could be a ‘Zidane’ or a ‘Shaw’. That’s the attraction of an Interim HC.

All I know for certain is that our dressing room is massively underachieving it’s potential and season 2021 is looking like a complete train wreck.




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Surely they aren’t that stupid. Destroy everything that’s been built just to get some more picks?

What if the Board’s goal is:

Clarkson (new leadership); and
COLA (player retention); and
Picks (and more top players)?

All we no for sure at this stage is that no one on the Board has issued one word of criticism of Leon.


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What if the Board’s goal is:

Clarkson; and
COLA; and
Picks?

All we no for sure at this stage is that no one at the Board has issued one word of criticism of Leon.


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Then I would lose complete faith in the board and the respect I have for them would be gone
 
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