Is North Melbourne passing on Logan McDonald going to be the 2021 version of the Bulldogs passing on Buddy for Ryan Griffin

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Logan McDonald has started the year on fire. And has shown he has all the attributes to be a superstar key forward in this league. Did North Melbourne make the biggest draft blunder since Richmond passing on Buddy in 2004?

They are desperate for Key Forward talent and elected to draft a midfielder instead of best player available at a position of need.

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godees passing on D. Martin, not once but twice, was pretty bad
 
Maybe when it’s a clear cut choice, but an undersized mid who hasn’t played in a year vs a need that has been dominating senior football. Best available was about three other players. WP was the safe choice. Something Dodoro would have done.

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The dude is 180cm. Sure Dion Prestia isn't a bad player, but without Dustin Martin and Jack Riewoldt he doesn't win a premiership. Pick two/three you go for the potential superstars.

Wow.

Without Sam Mitchell, Roughead doesn’t win a flag.

Without Greg Williams, Kernahan doesn’t win a flag.

Without Luke Shuey, Kennedy doesn’t win a flag.

Lachie Neale just won a Brownlow at 177cm, with Tom Mitchell the year before at 181cm. We could go on all day with that tit tat garbage.

Phillips hasn’t played a game ffs.


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Wow.

Without Sam Mitchell, Roughead doesn’t win a flag.

Without Greg Williams, Kernahan doesn’t win a flag.

Without Luke Shuey, Kennedy doesn’t win a flag.

Lachie Neale just won a Brownlow at 177cm, with Tom Mitchell the year before at 181cm. We could go on all day with that tit tat garbage.

Phillips hasn’t played a game ffs.

There are 50-100 high quality small midfielders in the competition. There are a handful of point of difference players. They win you the flags. Phillips might turn out to be a star, chances are even if he does, he doesn't move you closer to a flag without a star key forward and a handful dynamic match winners. He might be a gun, but it's a poor list management decision regardless.
 
The reason Richmond cop so much for their stuff up was that after the draft Terry Wallace came out gloating, saying how they picked up the best players in the draft, and how other clubs were going to regret it.

The blunder itself wasn't bad given the dogs also passed on franklin
 
This is going to be a delicious topic. McDonald is going to be a star. How long do you think the poor Roos lad can stomach being at a bottom 4 club before he requests a trade?

He's already requested a trade to Sydney. Also all future father son north players are going to Sydney because we played home games there for a few years. Also any of our current players that have been to Sydney before.
 

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The reason Richmond cop so much for their stuff up was that after the draft Terry Wallace came out gloating, saying how they picked up the best players in the draft, and how other clubs were going to regret it.

The blunder itself wasn't bad given the dogs also passed on franklin
Is the best player always taken at pick 1? Is every first round player picked a star? As the draft goes on do players follow that same line of improvement and ranking?
There's mistakes made in hindsight every year by every club. Late picks become stars, first rounders become busts.

I think draft blunders are beatups for the masses. Every single draft would be enormously rewritten with the benefit of hindsight.
 
There are 50-100 high quality small midfielders in the competition. There are a handful of point of difference players. They win you the flags. Phillips might turn out to be a star, chances are even if he does, he doesn't move you closer to a flag without a star key forward and a handful dynamic match winners. He might be a gun, but it's a poor list management decision regardless.

It’s simple, you pick what you think is best available. The last thing you should be doing is picking for needs with a top 5 pick. Our list isn’t in a state to be picking and choosing, we need quality midfielders as well. Once you start picking for needs you get a McCartin instead of a Petracca. It is impossible to determine who will be better as one player hasn’t played and the other has played 2 games.

Phillips has Hodge like qualities on and off the field. Do you think they regret trading the young highly talented Trent Croad for him?


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There are 50-100 high quality small midfielders in the competition. There are a handful of point of difference players. They win you the flags. Phillips might turn out to be a star, chances are even if he does, he doesn't move you closer to a flag without a star key forward and a handful dynamic match winners. He might be a gun, but it's a poor list management decision regardless.
I can understand you not understanding good list management given Dodo.

Phillips is a gun and will be as good as Anderson or Rowell if he gets a run at it. But I think we picked him because of his off field qualities (leadership at training etc) as much as onfield ones. We need to get the stench of Brad Scott out of the side and he is part of that process.
 
Callum Twomey commented that Charlie Comben could be every bit as good as Logan Mcdonald. We already have Charlie Comben.

Mcdonald has kicked 5 goals in 2 games. He looks a very good young player, however is also a flight risk.

West coast will have a JK sized hole to fill in 6 months time.
 
Callum Twomey commented that Charlie Comben could be every bit as good as Logan Mcdonald. We already have Charlie Comben.

Mcdonald has kicked 5 goals in 2 games. He looks a very good young player, however is also a flight risk.

West coast will have a JK sized hole to fill in 6 months time.

Doesn't Comben have fitness/injury concerns though ?
 
Is the best player always taken at pick 1? Is every first round player picked a star? As the draft goes on do players follow that same line of improvement and ranking?
There's mistakes made in hindsight every year by every club. Late picks become stars, first rounders become busts.

I think draft blunders are beatups for the masses. Every single draft would be enormously rewritten with the benefit of hindsight.
You missed the point about the song and dance Terry Wallace made after that draft. It is why the tigers copped so much.
It is also why teams who have massively messed up (hawks taking Thorp infrastructure of selwood. Melbourne taking scully amd trengove infrastructure of Martin for example) don't cop it
 
Is the best player always taken at pick 1? Is every first round player picked a star? As the draft goes on do players follow that same line of improvement and ranking?
There's mistakes made in hindsight every year by every club. Late picks become stars, first rounders become busts.

I think draft blunders are beatups for the masses. Every single draft would be enormously rewritten with the benefit of hindsight.

People said Weitering was a bust a couple of years ago and now I believe he is the most valuable player from his draft class (Oliver been the best performed which is a different argument)

Drafting is becoming better and better though, most of the no 1 picks in the last 5-6 drafts have been home run selections (even if they do not end up being the best player from their draft)
 
You missed the point about the song and dance Terry Wallace made after that draft. It is why the tigers copped so much.
It is also why teams who have massively messed up (hawks taking Thorp infrastructure of selwood. Melbourne taking scully amd trengove infrastructure of Martin for example) don't cop it
Is the point to say that Terry Wallace is a dick then?

I don't see North preaching that they got the best player from the draft, and I can't even recall anything Wallace did specifically, do you have any articles on this with quotes?

If any recruiter/coach comes out of the draft thinking they don't have the best player with their pick, then they probably wouldn't have made the selection in the first place.
 
Is the point to say that Terry Wallace is a dick then?

I don't see North preaching that they got the best player from the draft, and I can't even recall anything Wallace did specifically, do you have any articles on this with quotes?

If any recruiter/coach comes out of the draft thinking they don't have the best player with their pick, then they probably wouldn't have made the selection in the first place.
He came out and said "we got the best players in this draft," and then repeated it for about a week. The media also lapped it up.
I'll see if I can find it.

This thread is about north, and they haven't said anything, which is why there'll never be any regret if it does backfire
 
Logan McDonald has started the year on fire. And has shown he has all the attributes to be a superstar key forward in this league. Did North Melbourne make the biggest draft blunder since Richmond passing on Buddy in 2004?

They are desperate for Key Forward talent and elected to draft a midfielder instead of best player available at a position of need.

Discuss...


You do realise that Hawthorn also passed on Buddy ?
 
You missed the point about the song and dance Terry Wallace made after that draft. It is why the tigers copped so much.
It is also why teams who have massively messed up (hawks taking Thorp infrastructure of selwood. Melbourne taking scully amd trengove infrastructure of Martin for example) don't cop it

what was the song and dance ?
 

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