What might have been?

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Some players have long distinguished careers. Some players have long and very ordinary careers, making you wonder why? And some players have short but outstanding careers, making you wonder why not?

This thread is for the players in the final category. Some suffered through events entirely out of their control, and some had their careers shortened through self-inflicted actions.

In the spirit of the final category, I present Sid Barnes, of NSW and Australia.

13 Tests, 1072 runs @ 63.06.

His highest score was 234, as part of a legendary partnership with Bradman who also scored 234. Whenever he was asked if he had deliberately given his wicket away he always maintained that he had, adding that it wouldn't have looked good scoring more than Bradman. This gives an insight into the man's character. He had a habit of thumbing his nose at the establishment. A fine example occurred when he was acting as 12th man for NSW against SA in the early 50s. At the drinks break he came out in full formal attire and brought extra items such as cigars, a mirror and comb and a clothes brush. Needless to say this didn't go down well with the powers that be, including SA captain and then national selector (conflict of interest anyone?) Phil Ridings, who lodged an official complaint.
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Anyway, if he had been more of a company man, who knows what might have been?
 
Franklyn Stephenson probably more than any other player who had their career blacklisted (no pun intended) for a rebel tour is the big one for me.

Almost 800 wickets in three of the four best first class competitions on the planet (well all four of them but his stint with Tassie was very brief) and the small matter of nearly 9000 first class runs.

It’s criminal that he never played any international cricket
 
Sylvester Clarke could be added to this this list. Quality bowler with a sub-20 bowling average at FC level. Sadly took the decision to tour South Africa in the 80's which put an end to his international career.
 

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Sylvester Clarke could be added to this this list. Quality bowler with a sub-20 bowling average at FC level. Sadly took the decision to tour South Africa in the 80's which put an end to his international career.


Yep and by all accounts the meanest of the lot. I don’t like players whether fast bowlers or not to be just pricks but there is a bit of odd romance about the breakneck speed quick who just ******* hates batsmen and spends his career destroying them. Would have loved to see what he could do with a decade of test cricket
 
A lot of the South Africans who just started prior to the 70s stand out for this category. Richards and Proctor probably being the two who were most affected.

Reading about someone like Laurie Nash back in the 30s when Australia's fast bowling stocks consisted of either Tim Wall or Ernie McCormick with Stan McCabe opening at the other end it's criminal he didn't play way more test cricket.

Ted McDonald in the 20s is another. 43 wickets in 11 tests is a pretty good hall, but he debuted and finished his test career all in 1921. Went and played league cricket in England after that and Australia had to rely on Jack Gregory until his knees gave out in 1928.
 
Yep and by all accounts the meanest of the lot. I don’t like players whether fast bowlers or not to be just pricks but there is a bit of odd romance about the breakneck speed quick who just ******* hates batsmen and spends his career destroying them. Would have loved to see what he could do with a decade of test cricket
Sylvers actually happened to be the Windies quick that Richie Benaud held in the highest regard, which is saying quite a lot as old Richie would have seen them all dating all the way back to Wes Hall. Was probably one of the quickest of the lot in his early career too.
 
A lot of the South Africans who just started prior to the 70s stand out for this category. Richards and Proctor probably being the two who were most affected.

Reading about someone like Laurie Nash back in the 30s when Australia's fast bowling stocks consisted of either Tim Wall or Ernie McCormick with Stan McCabe opening at the other end it's criminal he didn't play way more test cricket.

Ted McDonald in the 20s is another. 43 wickets in 11 tests is a pretty good hall, but he debuted and finished his test career all in 1921. Went and played league cricket in England after that and Australia had to rely on Jack Gregory until his knees gave out in 1928.
Nash was surely missed during the 30's. Genuine pace from what I've read & most likely would have been one of the few bowlers that Bert Oldfield didn't stand up to the stumps to. McDonald is another great call, I think he ended up making Lancashire's team of the century or something along those lines. An incredible accolade considering he was probably past his prime by the time he first played for them.

Another top quality Aussie pacer from that time would have to have been Eddie Gilbert. Legend has it he had the Don himself quivering in his boots. Jury is still out whether or not he was no-balled out of the game on racial grounds or not though.
 
Mohammad Asif of Pakistan. 23 tests, 103 wickets at an average of around 23.

Drug and spot fixing scandals, so really has only himself to blame.
Asif Mk 1 was as deadly as any bowler I've ever seen. Asif Mk 2 just seemed to kinda exist. Wish he never made the mistake that he did.
 
Colin Croft had a great record as is, but he'd have likely been considered not far below or as good as Holding, Garner and Marshall if he'd not decided to go to the rebel tour.
 

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Vinod Kambli. In his first seven Test he made four centuries, two of them doubles. Averaged 54.20 after 17 Tests which is still the highest Test batting average for an Indian. Reported to have had some discipline issues and played his last Test aged 23. Made nearly 10,000 first class runs with an average of 59.67.
 
Would have liked to see how Mohammad Amir progressed had he not participated in the spot fixing scandal as an 18 year old. He was damn impressive on tour to Australia and even better in that series in England where had it not been for that incident he would have put down a marker to everyone. In Australia his success was the pace and skiddy bounce he was generating but in England he was zipping the ball around like a faster left handed Jimmy Anderson. Youngest bowler to get to 50 test wickets, had already been influential in Pakistan winning a T20 competition. There were comparisons to Wasim Akram and he was ahead of Akram at that age. Looked like he even could have made a steady tailender.

He's done ok since returning from the ban with another important role winning Pakistan the last Champions Trophy and some good test performances. But five years away took the magic away. It sapped his fitness and clearly his passion because no sooner did he return did he retire from international cricket to focus on being on the T20 circuit. To ironically make up for loss of earnings during his time out which of course happened because he was suckered into chasing money. What could have been...
 
County players who played against Richards in the 70s regularly name him best ever and my old man still swears blind Pollock is the best he's ever seen. I'd add the 2nd XI of Australia's golden era, players who at any other time would have got a good look at test cricket.

Was going to say: blokes like Jimmy Maher, Martin Love, Brad Hodge, David Hussey, Jamie Cox.....

Even guys who did play a fair bit like Kaspowicz, Bichel, Macgill, North, White, etc probably would have had continuous decade-long tenures in other eras.
 
Was going to say: blokes like Jimmy Maher, Martin Love, Brad Hodge, David Hussey, Jamie Cox.....

Even guys who did play a fair bit like Kaspowicz, Bichel, Macgill, North, White, etc probably would have had continuous decade-long tenures in other eras.
Jamie Siddons.
 
Was going to say: blokes like Jimmy Maher, Martin Love, Brad Hodge, David Hussey, Jamie Cox.....

Even guys who did play a fair bit like Kaspowicz, Bichel, Macgill, North, White, etc probably would have had continuous decade-long tenures in other eras.

I think David Hussey and Jimmy Maher would of lasted about as long as Michael Bevan did if they got a chance at test level.
 

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