Moved Thread Bailey Smith vs Sam Walsh

[Endless]

When do we add Butters to this and make it a proper shitfight?

Agree!
Love Smith & Walsh but I have a feeling that Zac B might just be better than both

 

[Substance]

The Dogs average 435 disposals with their handball happy game plan. If you aren’t getting 30+ in that midfield somethings wrong.

% of disposals that are kicks
Smith 50.6
Walsh 36.5

This isn't a knock, just refuting your implication. This also accounts for the disposal eff% differential.

 

[Flags_In_The_Bag]

WTF?

I was merely stating something.

umm so was i.

 

[Flags_In_The_Bag]

Agree!
Love Smith & Walsh but I have a feeling that Zac B might just be better than both

umm nope

 

[Fadge]

Just looked at the 2018 Draft and of the 78 players drafted, 19 are already out of the AFL system.

Ruthless industry.

 

[doggies ftw]

You should look at disposal efficiency stats in 2021. Walsh has him covered. Despite Walsh collecting more of his disposals in the contest. Bigger quicker stronger is interesting. Considering we’re talking about smith not playing inside mid and on the wing. More aggression is also a question. I’d say having long hair and a moustache has you fooled on how tough your lad truly is. Walsh is a ******* monster.

He plays wing because that’s where we need his output. He could quite easily be Carltons number 1 inside midfielder too, pretty simple stuff

 

[Kreuuuzeurns]

% of disposals that are kicks
Smith 50.6
Walsh 36.5

This isn't a knock, just refuting your implication. This also accounts for the disposal eff% differential.

Looks like Smith is getting on the end of those chains.

 

[Red_man2008]

He plays wing because that’s where we need his output. He could quite easily be Carltons number 1 inside midfielder too, pretty simple stuff

No he couldn’t. Walsh has gone 31, 29 and 37 at 84% inside mid in 2021. Smith isn’t close.

 

[Substance]

Looks like Smith is getting on the end of those chains.

Correct. Walsh wins the ball and starts chains far more often.

% of disposals that were contested
Walsh 39.3
Smith 25.1

This is what you'd expect from one being played as an on baller and the other playing wing.

 

[Elmer_Judd]

He plays wing because that’s where we need his output. He could quite easily be Carltons number 1 inside midfielder too, pretty simple stuff

I think Smith is being played in his best/most natural position at the Dogs. He definitley has the body and tank to play inside, but he is more damaging to opponents feeding and running off The Dogs on talented group of mids (esp inside ones)


It's a luxury I wish we had at Carlton (that type of midfield depth, esp with rotations)

 

[doggies ftw]

I think Smith is being played in his best/most natural position at the Dogs. He definitley has the body and tank to play inside, but he is more damaging to opponents feeding and running off The Dogs on talented group of mids (esp inside ones)


It's a luxury I wish we had at Carlton (that type of midfield depth, esp with rotations)

I don’t think it’s his most natural position, he’s always been an inside burst midfielder his whole life, I and many other dogs actually had concerns as to whether he could play wing as it’s a lot different than just following the contest but he’s done it well so far.

No doubt in my mind he would be playing better individual footy being a part of the main on ball brigade but like you said it’s a luxury for us that we don’t really need him inside at this point and are better off with him (and Treloar) roaming the wings.

 

[dlb99]

So we all agree that Walsh has seen off Rozee

 

[Boyd oh Boyd]

Walsh literally is your midfield. Smith plays a role in ours. Big big difference. Smiths bigger, quicker, stronger, better disposal, kicks more goals, more aggression. I don’t think there’s many parts of the game Walsh has him covered in to be completely honest

Consistency would be the biggest one imo. Hasn't happened this year but Smith has had some invisible games in the past. Walsh is much more reliable week in week out.

 

[doggies ftw]

Consistency would be the biggest one imo. Hasn't happened this year but Smith has had some invisible games in the past. Walsh is much more reliable week in week out.

Strange call, since when has Baz been invisible? Honestly can’t remember one game he’s been invisible in. He’s been extremely consistent. 5 games under 20 touches last year, including the game he played about 10 minutes of. Walsh had 6. I think consistency has been a massive selling point of both blokes.

 

[james Dean]

I’ve said it before I’ll say it again. The worst thread on BigFooty.

It’s like picking between banging Margot Robbie or Miranda Kerr.

you may have a personal preference but either way you are over the moon with what you get

 

[Dancing Dougy]

I’ve said it before I’ll say it again. The worst thread on BigFooty.

It’s like picking between banging Margot Robbie or Miranda Kerr.

you may have a personal preference but either way you are over the moon with what you get

Can you please confirm which one is which before I agree with you?

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Miranda in her prime is a class above

 

[Kramer1]

Ben Cousins (the cleanish footballer version) V Robert Harvey. Football wins, nobody loses.

 

[Virgin Dog]

.. has seen off Rozee

Please stop cluttering this thread with this talk of nobodies.

 

[Samthomas44]

Both.

 

[Greggy]

Walsh is a gun, best midfielder at Carlton already, amazing work rate and skill set.

 

[james Dean]

Can you please confirm which one is which before I agree with you?

Have you seen the wolf of Wall Street?

 

[marcmurphy3]

Wouldn't be surprised to see both named in this years AA team, maybe even on opposite wings. Would be an exceptional achievement as 3rd year players. The best 3rd year midfielders I have seen since Selwood.

 

[Blue1980]

Walsh literally is your midfield. Smith plays a role in ours. Big big difference. Smiths bigger, quicker, stronger, better disposal, kicks more goals, more aggression. I don’t think there’s many parts of the game Walsh has him covered in to be completely honest

Well we do have Cripps who happens to be a midfielder.

But if Walsh has to carry more load doesn’t that make his role harder than Smith’a by the logic you are using?

For the record, both are fantastic, I was keen on Smith in his draft year too.

 

[Blue1980]

So we all agree that Walsh has seen off Rozee

Kane wouldn’t