Rumour GFC 2021 Player Trading, Drafting FA, Rumours and Wish lists

[CatToTheFuture]

Interesting article today with Peter Sumich who is predicting a heap of Victorian Freo players to head back at seasons end. He said he has heard Geelong are big time into Sean Darcy, and that Darcy Tucker wants to come to us.
Found it weird that Freo used all their high picks on Vic players, guys like Brayshaw, Cerra, Serong etc. Surely law of averages would result in a few heading home.

Surely Darcy doesn't end up with us. We have some decent future ruck prospects and I wouldn't trade any of them for Darcy.

If this is some plot by Fremantle to get Neale I'll be livid

 

[STPer18]

Stats would back you up, he has been injured a lot

There's a first time for everything!

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Has anybody actually seen Sean Darcy play? If he was delisted or a Zac Smith esk trade then yes but otherwise a massive pass. The Game went past his style in the 1995 GF.

Even then he’s in the 2s until Stanley is done then still in the 2s once Neale out Tsapatolis is ready. He's not a modern ruck.

 

[Turbocat]

We have until 2023 to find about 5 Fogarty types I think so I'm all for getting a couple of tadpoles swimming in the 2s that can turn into decent frogs... I think the metaphor ran out there

Tadpoles and frogs .. sure... maybe some big fish as well.

 

[Turbocat]

A couple of interesting names on thsi list..

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NAB LEAGUE WEEK 2 SUPER RANKINGS

Ranking, Player, Club, Position, 2021 Games, 2021 Ave. KFC SuperCoach Points

1. Nick Daicos (Oakleigh Chargers), MID/FWD, 1 game, 177 points

2. Joel Fitzgerald (Northern Knights), MID, 1 game, 172 points

3. Ned Long (Northern Knights), KEY FWD, 1 game, 168 points

4. Corey Preston (Eastern Ranges), FWD, 1 game, 156 points

5. Ben Hobbs (Greater Western Victoria Rebels), MID, 1 game, 151 points

6. Tyler Sonsie (Eastern Ranges), MID/FWD, 1 game, 150 points

7. Sam Conforti (Bendigo Pioneers), MID, 1 game, 146 points

8. Noah Gribble (Geelong Falcons), MID/DEF, 1 game, 142 points

9. Mac Andrew (Dandenong Stingrays), RUCK, 1 game, 140 points

10. Cody Raak (Western Jets), KEY DEF, 2 games, 137 points

11. Connor MacDonald (Dandenong Stingrays), MID, 1 game, 135 points

12. Jacob Edwards (Sandringham Dragons), FWD, 1 game, 134 points

13. Cameron McLeod (Murray Bushrangers), DEF, 1 game, 130 points

14. Hugh Hamilton (Bendigo Pioneers), MID, 1 game, 126 points

15. Sam Clohesy (Calder Cannons), MID, 2 games, 124 points

16. Patrick Parnell (Murray Bushrangers), DEF, 1 game, 124 points

17. Marc Massarotti (Eastern Ranges), FWD, 1 game, 123 points

18. Joshua Gibcus (Greater Western Victoria Rebels), KEY DEF, 1 game, 122 points

19. Nick Hodgson (Greater Western Victoria Rebels), MID, 1 game, 121 points

20. Lachlan Riley (Sandringham Dragons), DEF, 1 game, 120 points

21. Darcy Wilmot (Northern Knights), MID, 1 game, 120 points

22. Flynn Gentile (Calder Cannons), MID, 2 games, 118 points

23. Logan Young (Sandringham Dragons), MID, 1 game, 117 points

24. Eren Soylemez (Sandringham Dragons), FWD, 1 game, 115 points

25. Liam Conway (Western Jets), DEF, 2 games, 113 points

26. Flynn Lakey (Calder Cannons), MID, 2 games, 113 points

27. Miller Bergman (Dandenong Stingrays), DEF, 1 game, 110 points

28. Campbell Chesser (Sandringham Dragons), DEF, 1 game, 110 points

29. Giacomo Thomas (Calder Cannons), DEF, 2 games, 110 points

30. Max Walton (Gippsland Power), MID, 1 game, 109 points

31. James O’Connor (Eastern Ranges), FWD, 1 game, 109 points

32. Harrison Keeling (Eastern Ranges), FWD, 1 game, 108 points

33. Charlie McKay (Sandringham Dragons), MID, 1 game, 108 points

34. William Kilpatrick (Geelong Falcons), DEF, 1 game, 107 points

35. Joshua Rachele (Murray Bushrangers), MID/FWD, 1 game, 107 points

36. Harrison Schumann (Western Jets), FWD, 2 games, 107 points

37. Harrison White (Western Jets), DEF, 2 games, 107 points

38. Ned Moyle (Oakleigh Chargers), MID, 1 game, 106 points

39. Scott Beilby (Oakleigh Chargers), DEF, 1 game, 106 points

40. Max Gregory (Dandenong Stingrays), MID, 1 game, 106 points

41. Ryan Eyers (Murray Bushrangers), FWD, 1 game, 105 points

42. Jack Evans (Bendigo Pioneers), MID/FWD, 1 game, 104 points

43. Mitchell Moschetti (Gippsland Power), DEF, 1 game, 104 points

44. Sam Butler

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(Greater Western Victoria Rebels), FWD, 1 game, 103 points

45. Archie Hildebrandt (Geelong Falcons), MID/FWD, 1 game, 103 points

46. Harry Sullivan (Dandenong Stingrays), DEF, 1 game, 103 points

47. Judson Clarke (Dandenong Stingrays), FWD, 1 game, 102 points

48. Chance Doultree (Gippsland Power), DEF, 1 game, 102 points

49. Daniel Turner (Murray Bushrangers), DEF, 1 game, 102 points

50. Sam Witherden (Geelong Falcons), KEY DEF, 1 game, 101 points

 

[Turbocat]

This is the kid Id love to add but again... we will be well short of the pick required..

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South Adelaide
Jason Horne

Midfielder

17, 184cm, 78kg

Key stats: Averaged 157 ranking points in six under-18 matches in 2020, before making nine SANFL League appearances

The South Adelaide midfielder has it all, which is why he is an early favourite to be picked first in this year’s draft. Horne is strong on the inside, but also electrifying away from the contest, boasting a mix of speed, evasiveness and terrific hands overhead. Horne was SA’s MVP at the under-16 national carnival and, after a dominant start to 2020 in the under-18s, played the final nine games of the year in South’s league side. Panthers coach Jarrad Wright has declared the 17-year-old is “bigger, stronger and better” this season. One coach at the SANFL season launch on Tuesday said Horne was ready to take thecompetition by storm and could even figure in state coach Jade Sheedy’s plans to face WA in May.

 

[Shadow89]

Interesting article today with Peter Sumich who is predicting a heap of Victorian Freo players to head back at seasons end. He said he has heard Geelong are big time into Sean Darcy, and that Darcy Tucker wants to come to us.
Found it weird that Freo used all their high picks on Vic players, guys like Brayshaw, Cerra, Serong etc. Surely law of averages would result in a few heading home.

Darcy Tucker - yes!
Sean Darcy - absolutely f*ck no

 

[Shadow89]

Sean Darcy perhaps one of our later 2nd round picks, given he is ready and good to go. I would entertain it given Stanley is getting old, and I dont rate Darcy Fort, nor do I think Esava can be a full time ruck.
Given that we just invested in Neale and Greek Freak for development, its interesting that he wants back to us.
Darcy Tucker, maybe a late 3rd or early 4th round pick, but probably not what we need. Though he is a nice left footer, has a big boot on him and he can tackle, he ain't slow either. You never know with a Tucker, coming back home, it might elevate his game. I don't know if he can kick on his right foot though.
We usually take these ex western victoria lads that want to come back. So I reckon we will probably take both if the price is right.

You should probably watch more of him - highly underrated player at the Dockers, and wouldn't come for any less than an early 3rd IMO. Could easily slot into our Best 22

 

[Turbocat]

Has anybody actually seen Sean Darcy play? If he was delisted or a Zac Smith esk trade then yes but otherwise a massive pass. The Game went past his style in the 1995 GF.

He is very different to the type we have ran with ..thats for sure

 

[Turbocat]

Darcy Tucker - yes!
Sean Darcy - absolutely f*ck no

Putting aside the visual of him playing , the size of him , his style etc... a 23 year old ruck that has played around 50 games would fit into what we have shown we like to trade in. A player ready to play and his form at afl level available to assess ....

He is contracted so what would Freo want.


My guess is they would want a R2 plus a WA kid like Neale. We would paying them for their development and be giving them a replacement kid for him.



Tucker... again.. at his age , he would be 25 and 90 odd games to his name... seems to fit what we would like. Whether he is good enough.. hard to gauge imo. but it would be rel to cost

 

[BennyGan]

You guys are harsh on Sean Darcy... Christ he's practically a kid at 22 and could be anything by 25, for a bloke his size i wouldnt be saying no considering all we have is bloody Stanley.

his lack of mobility and athleticism is what makes me low on him, you cant really have much upside as a ruck without it given his below average tap work. fine with picking him up for a pick in the 35+ range but I wouldn't offer more than that.

 

[Turbocat]

You should probably watch more of him - highly underrated player at the Dockers, and wouldn't come for any less than an early 3rd IMO. Could easily slot into our Best 22

What role?

 

[BennyGan]

My guess is they would want a R2 plus a WA kid like Neale. We would paying them for their development and be giving them a replacement kid for him.

huge pass if thats what it takes to get him

 

[Turbocat]

Surely Darcy doesn't end up with us. We have some decent future ruck prospects and I wouldn't trade any of them for Darcy.

If this is some plot by Fremantle to get Neale I'll be livid

Id think it would involve Neale for sure. The question is .. how long before Neale plays for us? What do we do till he is ready to play... is there a better options to recruit as a ruck?

 

[Shadow89]

What role?

Wing/inside mid. Gut runner and a really good kick too. Ticks a lot of boxes and he's a player I think really goes under the radar

 

[Shadow89]

Id think it would involve Neale for sure. The question is .. how long before Neale plays for us? What do we do till he is ready to play... is there a better options to recruit as a ruck?

We'd be absolutely moronic to trade out our highest drafted ruck in the past decade, for a lumbering injury prone trade in that hasn't really shown anything to this stage of his career.

Neale has so much more upside than Darcy IMO. If Darcy drops 10-15 KG than maybe, but otherwise, Neale was one of the highest rated rucks in last year's draft, and one we should absolutely be holding onto moving forward.

 

[Turbocat]

huge pass if thats what it takes to get him

I guess we will see... but its not much different in the way we traded Fogarty for a player they thought could immediately play.. Darcy if his body is up to it ..will have 5 plays years ahead ..and could play from day1

 

[BennyGan]

This is the kid Id love to add but again... we will be well short of the pick required..

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South Adelaide
Jason Horne

Midfielder

17, 184cm, 78kg

Key stats: Averaged 157 ranking points in six under-18 matches in 2020, before making nine SANFL League appearances

The South Adelaide midfielder has it all, which is why he is an early favourite to be picked first in this year’s draft. Horne is strong on the inside, but also electrifying away from the contest, boasting a mix of speed, evasiveness and terrific hands overhead. Horne was SA’s MVP at the under-16 national carnival and, after a dominant start to 2020 in the under-18s, played the final nine games of the year in South’s league side. Panthers coach Jarrad Wright has declared the 17-year-old is “bigger, stronger and better” this season. One coach at the SANFL season launch on Tuesday said Horne was ready to take thecompetition by storm and could even figure in state coach Jade Sheedy’s plans to face WA in May.

imo he is going number 1 for sure. goal kicking mids are a premium

 

[Turbocat]

We'd be absolutely moronic to trade out our highest drafted ruck in the past decade, for a lumbering injury prone trade in that hasn't really shown anything to this stage of his career.

Neale has so much more upside than Darcy IMO. If Darcy drops 10-15 KG than maybe, but otherwise, Neale was one of the highest rated rucks in last year's draft, and one we should absolutely be holding onto moving forward.

We have Neale and the greek kid ... and we could draft a replacement kid from the Falcons if we wanted to .. Neale is 3 years a way min. I could see them doing it.... but the kid would have to want to do it ..he is contrcated

 

[BennyGan]

I guess we will see... but its not much different in the way we traded Fogarty for a player they thought could immediately play.. Darcy if his body is up to it ..will have 5 plays years ahead ..and could play from day1

I think a late 2nd on its own is more than enough, throwing in Neale who was also a 2nd rounder is overkill imo. Neale seems to be loving the club and is a great kid. Think is upside is much higher than Darcy too given his athleticism and skills are well ahead of Darcy. Feel like Darcy is just locking in a guy that always gonna be a middle of the pack to average ruck whereas Neale could be a top 5 ruck if things go right. Wellsy picked him for a reason and hes the highest ruck we have taken in a long time. Would be really disappointed if they gave up on him after 1 year.

 

[Turbocat]

I think a late 2nd on its own is more than enough, throwing in Neale who was also a 2nd rounder is overkill imo. Neale seems to be loving the club and is a great kid. Think is upside is much higher than Darcy too given his athleticism and skills are well ahead of Darcy. Feel like Darcy is just locking in a guy that always gonna be a middle of the pack to average ruck whereas Neale could be a top 5 ruck if things go right. Wellsy picked him for a reason and hes the highest ruck we have taken in a long time. Would be really disappointed if they gave up on him after 1 year.

He is OOC 2022.. if he is prepared to extend his contract then perhaps we look at other options... but in the way we have traded and drafted... I could see us being willing to do a trade that involved him. What the deal would be is anyones guess..maybe we get a bit back ..who knows..but Darcy is contracted..so it its only going to happen if Freo is happy to do it.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Wing/inside mid. Gut runner and a really good kick too. Ticks a lot of boxes and he's a player I think really goes under the radar

The short highlights seem to make him look a bit like a Caddy

 

[foxdog50]

A couple of interesting names on thsi list..

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NAB LEAGUE WEEK 2 SUPER RANKINGS

Ranking, Player, Club, Position, 2021 Games, 2021 Ave. KFC SuperCoach Points

1. Nick Daicos (Oakleigh Chargers), MID/FWD, 1 game, 177 points

2. Joel Fitzgerald (Northern Knights), MID, 1 game, 172 points

3. Ned Long (Northern Knights), KEY FWD, 1 game, 168 points

4. Corey Preston (Eastern Ranges), FWD, 1 game, 156 points

5. Ben Hobbs (Greater Western Victoria Rebels), MID, 1 game, 151 points

6. Tyler Sonsie (Eastern Ranges), MID/FWD, 1 game, 150 points

7. Sam Conforti (Bendigo Pioneers), MID, 1 game, 146 points

8. Noah Gribble (Geelong Falcons), MID/DEF, 1 game, 142 points

9. Mac Andrew (Dandenong Stingrays), RUCK, 1 game, 140 points

10. Cody Raak (Western Jets), KEY DEF, 2 games, 137 points

11. Connor MacDonald (Dandenong Stingrays), MID, 1 game, 135 points

12. Jacob Edwards (Sandringham Dragons), FWD, 1 game, 134 points

13. Cameron McLeod (Murray Bushrangers), DEF, 1 game, 130 points

14. Hugh Hamilton (Bendigo Pioneers), MID, 1 game, 126 points

15. Sam Clohesy (Calder Cannons), MID, 2 games, 124 points

16. Patrick Parnell (Murray Bushrangers), DEF, 1 game, 124 points

17. Marc Massarotti (Eastern Ranges), FWD, 1 game, 123 points

18. Joshua Gibcus (Greater Western Victoria Rebels), KEY DEF, 1 game, 122 points

19. Nick Hodgson (Greater Western Victoria Rebels), MID, 1 game, 121 points

20. Lachlan Riley (Sandringham Dragons), DEF, 1 game, 120 points

21. Darcy Wilmot (Northern Knights), MID, 1 game, 120 points

22. Flynn Gentile (Calder Cannons), MID, 2 games, 118 points

23. Logan Young (Sandringham Dragons), MID, 1 game, 117 points

24. Eren Soylemez (Sandringham Dragons), FWD, 1 game, 115 points

25. Liam Conway (Western Jets), DEF, 2 games, 113 points

26. Flynn Lakey (Calder Cannons), MID, 2 games, 113 points

27. Miller Bergman (Dandenong Stingrays), DEF, 1 game, 110 points

28. Campbell Chesser (Sandringham Dragons), DEF, 1 game, 110 points

29. Giacomo Thomas (Calder Cannons), DEF, 2 games, 110 points

30. Max Walton (Gippsland Power), MID, 1 game, 109 points

31. James O’Connor (Eastern Ranges), FWD, 1 game, 109 points

32. Harrison Keeling (Eastern Ranges), FWD, 1 game, 108 points

33. Charlie McKay (Sandringham Dragons), MID, 1 game, 108 points

34. William Kilpatrick (Geelong Falcons), DEF, 1 game, 107 points

35. Joshua Rachele (Murray Bushrangers), MID/FWD, 1 game, 107 points

36. Harrison Schumann (Western Jets), FWD, 2 games, 107 points

37. Harrison White (Western Jets), DEF, 2 games, 107 points

38. Ned Moyle (Oakleigh Chargers), MID, 1 game, 106 points

39. Scott Beilby (Oakleigh Chargers), DEF, 1 game, 106 points

40. Max Gregory (Dandenong Stingrays), MID, 1 game, 106 points

41. Ryan Eyers (Murray Bushrangers), FWD, 1 game, 105 points

42. Jack Evans (Bendigo Pioneers), MID/FWD, 1 game, 104 points

43. Mitchell Moschetti (Gippsland Power), DEF, 1 game, 104 points

44. Sam Butler (Greater Western Victoria Rebels), FWD, 1 game, 103 points

45. Archie Hildebrandt (Geelong Falcons), MID/FWD, 1 game, 103 points

46. Harry Sullivan (Dandenong Stingrays), DEF, 1 game, 103 points

47. Judson Clarke (Dandenong Stingrays), FWD, 1 game, 102 points

48. Chance Doultree (Gippsland Power), DEF, 1 game, 102 points

49. Daniel Turner (Murray Bushrangers), DEF, 1 game, 102 points

50. Sam Witherden (Geelong Falcons), KEY DEF, 1 game, 101 points

William Kirkpatrick..... no 34.... son of Oysters!

 

[foxdog50]

Honestly... would like all of your views. What would Sean Darcy

4

Sean Darcy

Age

25

Ht

203cm

Wt

111kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.1

3star

K

3.4

1star

HB

6.6

4star

CL

2.4

4star

HO

28.8

5star

D

6.8

1star

K

2.0

1star

HB

4.8

3star

CL

1.8

4star

HO

20.3

5star

D

11.4

3star

K

4.6

2star

HB

6.8

5star

CL

2.6

5star

HO

32.0

5star

be worth in a trade pick...

 

[Shadow89]

We have Neale and the greek kid ... and we could draft a replacement kid from the Falcons if we wanted to .. Neale is 3 years a way min. I could see them doing it.... but the kid would have to want to do it ..he is contrcated

I really hope we sell him a future vision, because him leaving would be just another copout way in which we've decided to take the easy route of grabbing an established player for a select position, rather than developing them ourselves