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Again, you’re totally missing the point.
then tell me, whats the point? whats the deeper reason behind why this a-hole murdered his child?
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Again, you’re totally missing the point.
If we don't accept that there are aggrevating/mitigating/neutral factors that lead to such a tragic outcome, then there's no hope in finding solutions that can stop these sad and tragic events from happening.you talk about needing a deeper investigation into why things occur
he. murdered. his. baby.
i dont care if he lost his job, got f’ed over by the family court, and lost his right nad to cancer. He. Killed. His. Baby.
Nothing, absolutely nothing gives any reasoning for that to be done
He'd been before the courts for dv and had broken avos. F*** mental health, if the guy had taken himself out without killing his daughter I doubt many would have mourned.
then tell me, whats the point? whats the deeper reason behind why this a-hole murdered his child?
If we don't accept that there are aggrevating/mitigating/neutral factors that lead to such a tragic outcome, then there's no hope in finding solutions that can stop these sad and tragic events from happening.
So it doesn’t strike you as perhaps something we need to get better at dealing with? How was someone with that track record allowed to be anywhere near that child?
Still missing the point.
By understanding why someone does it, you get better at working out how to stop it happening again.
Throwing a tantrum and calling him an a-hole does... what exactly? How does it help stop it happening again for another family? It doesn’t. It makes you feel good for calling him scum I’m sure, but achieves nothing.
How either of you have decided that trying to find out more is in any way excusing or validating the behaviour is beyond me.
Yeah he’s scum, but plenty of people are scum and don’t murder their children, so why not find out more so that another child might get to live?
So what do we do, just throw up our hands and admit defeat?this is like sick fu**s such as Milat, Knight, and Bryant
there is no "reason" for what they do - they are sick evil pieces of sh*t
i genuinely dont care what the reason is. he will blame losing his kid due to the court order he copped for DV. he could of been a man, he chose to be a piece of sh*t and kill his kid
what valid reason can you give?
Why does the reason need to be valid?
Whenever these things happen we should always ask WHY.
Knowing the why helps us identify it again in future before it happens.
unfortunately no way to avoid it
So what do we do, just throw up our hands and admit defeat?
Wrong answer.
bullshit - unless you can see inside someones mind, there is no way to know what they are capable of. especially as this can evolve over time.
do you want to drug everyone who's a non conformist and turn us into a Stepford society?
Wait. You’ve just argued that we shouldn’t bother asking why, that we can’t stop it happening. Now you’re arguing we should drug them?
So no, you’re still wrong.
no, im arguing the only way you can enforce behaviour the way you want is drugging them
im saying people are good at suppressing this sh*t until it explodes. im also saying that pretending there are reasons for why this happens helps justify it. already today, people are blaming the family court for this kids murder
You're a bit off the mark on this one I'm sorry mate. I can't accept that it's a lost cause.lock em up for life, ensure restraining orders are enforced
a sick fu** like this couldnt be stopped
You're a bit off the mark on this one I'm sorry mate. I can't accept that it's a lost cause.
I'm pretty sure the current thinking on DV is not to put perps in the evil box. That in itself is an admission that nothing can be done about them. It absolves them of responsibility.
Maybe he was psychotic. If so possibly would have been found not guilty due to mental illness by a court of law.He'd been before the courts for dv and had broken avos. F*** mental health, if the guy had taken himself out without killing his daughter I doubt many would have mourned.
this is like sick fu**s such as Milat, Knight, and Bryant
there is no "reason" for what they do - they are sick evil pieces of sh*t
This is a lot different to Milat, which in turn is different to both Knight and Bryant.
The only similarity is that people have died as a result of the perpetrators.
No sh*t, but the point is they were all psycho scum who could not have been stopped with more screening, less anti man media, bans on video games, or more hugs.
The notion that this guy is not that bad because he just wants to be together forever with his child (something being argued elsewhere today, and in the past with similar cases) is insane.
You should probably stop posting on this topic when it’s bleedingly obvious not only do you know nothing about what you’re saying, you’ve also completely misread what people HERE are saying.
one of my best mates had a family member stab his wife to death in front of his kids during their split. I saw how his family and the wifes family had to deal with everything after that. anyone saying its due to the family court, lack of support, pressure on men, blah blah blah is full of sh*t.
what these guys do is completely selfish and contemptable, and there is no reasoning behind it to excuse it, explain it, or justify it
So no, you still don’t understand what people are saying here.
Not a single person has said anything provides an excuse or justification for the behaviour.
What we’re saying is that we can learn something about why these people do these things, so that we can get better at spotting the warning signs, and save another child.
You do realise that guys like Milat get interviewed and studied right? Serial killers are a major source of study.
are you suggesting everyone going through a break up have mandatory psychological screening?
If it saves the lives of their children, maybe they should. It’s clearly a major contributing event to people that are already predisposed to violence.