West Coast Eagles 2021

[Captain_Bender]

Will be saying the same about Rrichmond with no Dusty.

At least it takes 13 injured players to scuttle the Eagles.....not one.

No Dusty no Richmond.

And yet Richmond with far better players out, just beat the undefeated ladder leaders, face it West Coast just aren't any good

 

[Sweet Jesus]

I’m confused....do Freo supporters want to be acknowledged as the stronger team going into this game because you are confident of getting the win or do you want to be the underdog so you can claim an upset if you win and dismiss the result if you lose?

Exactly.

I've suggested a few times that Freo are cherry ripe to win this but folks still want to insist it will be an upset.

Is it because they just assume WC are better regardless of personnel?

 

[Sweet Jesus]

And yet Richmond with far better players out, just beat the undefeated ladder leaders, face it West Coast just aren't any good

Clearly Richmond are better than WC. Surely no one disputes this.

 

[Captain_Bender]

Clearly Richmond are better than WC. Surely no one disputes this.

Yet you would be surprised with the average West Coast supporter

 

[Sweet Jesus]

Yet you would be surprised with the average West Coast supporter

Bah. WC have underachieved but that's no commentary on Richmond.

 

[Captain_Bender]

Bah. WC have underachieved but that's no commentary on Richmond.

I would say that West Coast have more overachieved

 

[Sweet Jesus]

I would say that West Coast have more overachieved

Missing top 4 twice with 10 AA players plus Shuey?

To me, that's underachieving.

Particularly when you drill down on the results that cost us.

Losing to Hawthorn at home in R23. That's underachieving.

 

[Captain_Bender]

Missing top 4 twice with 10 AA players plus Shuey?

History shows that from 2016-2020 that West Coast weren't a top four side, definitely proved they overachieved in 2018

 

[Sweet Jesus]

History shows that from 2016-2020 that West Coast weren't a top four side, definitely proved they overachieved in 2018

History shows we weren't a top 4 side in 2019-20 because we didn't make the top 4. I'd say that's the underachievement.

Particularly in 2019.

 

[Captain_Bender]

History shows we weren't a top 4 side in 2019-20 because we didn't make the top 4. I'd say that's the underachievement.

I'd say it shows the actual quality of those West Coast sides, decent 5-8 sides, but nowhere near top 4

 

[Sweet Jesus]

I'd say it shows the actual quality of those West Coast sides, decent 5-8 sides, but nowhere near top 4

Well, they were close to top 4. In 2019 they finished 5th after blowing it in R23.

 

[tonygeeks]

Exactly.

I've suggested a few times that Freo are cherry ripe to win this but folks still want to insist it will be an upset.

Is it because they just assume WC are better regardless of personnel?

Whats to explain ?

Jeez those bookies have a sense of humour trolling the dominant Dockers like that

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[Captain_Bender]

Well, they were close to top 4. In 2019 they finished 5th after blowing it in R23.

Which just shows that they weren't good enough to finish top 4, you lost to a very average Hawthorn side at your safe space

 

[Sweet Jesus]

Which just shows that they weren't good enough to finish top 4, you lost to a very average Hawthorn side at your safe space

That's the underachievement. Blowing it in R23 in a game they should have won. Stop being an idiot.

 

[Sweet Jesus]

Whats to explain ?

Jeez those bookies have a sense of humour trolling the dominant Dockers like that

So what's your actual position?

Do you think the WC side on paper is stronger than the Fremantle side on paper?

 

[WilloTree]

West Coast still a very strong side. They'll run out on Sunday with 7 All Australians.

They'll go in as favourites, and rightly so.

 

[Captain_Bender]

That's the underachievement. Blowing it in R23 in a game they should have won. Stop being an idiot.

Yet despite only making the top 4 once between 2016-2020, West Coast are clearly a under performing top 4 side, not a lucky one off side

 

[tonygeeks]

So what's your actual position?

Do you think the WC side on paper is stronger than the Fremantle side on paper?

Paper shmayper

Teams bouncing back from bad loses has been 1 of the more consistent trends of the season

Odds are about right if you ask me


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[Sweet Jesus]

Yet despite only making the top 4 once between 2016-2020, West Coast are clearly a under performing top 4 side, not a lucky one off side

I'm saying that on talent, WC underachieved by missing the top 4 the past two years.

In 2018, WC won 10 in a row. They beat Richmond and beat Collingwood three times, including twice at the MCG. Without some very good players. They were lucky in what sense? Because Richmond lost a PF?

 

[Sweet Jesus]

Paper shmayper

You mean the actual team selected is irrelevant?

 

[Captain_Bender]

I'm saying that on talent, WC underachieved by missing the top 4 the past two years.

In 2018, WC won 10 in a row. They beat Richmond and beat Collingwood three times, including twice at the MCG. Without some very good players. They were lucky in what sense? Because Richmond lost a PF?

The lack of talent at West Coast, shows that they weren't a top four side and overachieved in 2018

 

[Sweet Jesus]

The lack of talent at West Coast, shows that they weren't a top four side and overachieved in 2018

So ladder position is an accurate reflection of quality when WC missed the top 4 but it's an inaccurate reflection when they won the flag?

Does the result reflect quality or doesn't it?

Surely it's one or the other.

 

[Captain_Bender]

So ladder position is an accurate reflection of quality when WC missed the top 4 but it's an inaccurate reflection when they won the flag?

Surely it's one or the other.

It's a reflection that West Coast overachieved in 2018, and that 2016, 2017, 2019 and 2020 show the true quality of their side

 

[Sweet Jesus]

It's a reflection that West Coast overachieved in 2018, and that 2016, 2017, 2019 and 2020 show the true quality of their side

I'm not talking about 2016-17. I'm talking about 2019-20.

On one hand, you dismiss ladder position in 2018 but then insist ladder position is the true measure of a side in 2019-2020.

Can't have it both ways.

 

[Captain_Bender]

I'm not talking about 2016-17. I'm talking about 2019-20.

On one hand, you dismiss ladder position in 2018 but then insist ladder position is the true measure of a side in 2019-2020.

Can't have it both ways.

back to back years of missing the top 4 in 2019 and 2020, only prove it more than a one off year in 2018, 2016 and 2017 only back that up