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Why is that hard? I’m just a poster.
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He slid to 56
And was the definition of a slider who turned into a gun. Unlucky to not be AA in 2017, and we got two first round draft picks when he left. s**t bloke, but was a good draft pick, you can't argue that.
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Yeah
You show me one example of a post where I've suggested keeping McAdam...
Ideally, both would be playing in the SANFL, with Newchurch being given an opportunity instead of McAdam. Actually, I'd probably go with Newchurch instead of Rowe, but it's pretty much 50/50 choice between Rowe & McAdam as to which deserves less to be in the side.
Have you seen Fogarty? He's only slightly smaller than the Incredible Hulk. OK, slight exaggeration - but only slight.Do you actually realise how much muscle that would be?
I don't care what he's listed at on the AFL website, he obviously weighs 100+ kg. He needs to be around 90kg max, preferably closer to 85kg.
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HS doesn't football on most topics but he is actually right that Darcy will never reach the heights of Walker. I've never been Walker's biggest fan but he has always had great skills and it's only injury and loss of pace that has curtailed his career. I feel Walker's form will decline as coaches get back to clogging up backlines which has already began. He has never been a great one on one contested mark.
I have always wanted Darcy to to succeed but if I'm perfectly honest I have never felt he possesses the attributes you must have to succeed at AFL level. The biggest problem I have is how he thinks on the field. He is not quick with his mind which you must have if you are slow with your legs. The other concern is that after 4 years in the system he still doesn't look like a footballer and is still carrying 8-10 kgs too much. He may have a problem losing weight but if he is to succeed he must find a way to strip some of the weight off his frame. I think they will get rid of Himnelberg or Fogarty end of the year. Neither are going to star players but if I had a choice it would be Himmelberg. I would play Thilthorpe, Himmelberg and try and develop Worrell forward along with Cook once he gains some experience.
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Ok, if he’s like Lachie Jones give him that type role. But no, he kicks dead eye 60 etc. It would be a massive waste to unattach ourselves from his attributes
To be fair, that was the knock on him even before he was drafted, and probably the reason why he fell all the way to #12 in his draft - nobody could figure out what position he'd end up playing at AFL level. He's too immobile to play in the midfield, too short to be a genuine KPF, and too slow & bulky to play as a small forward. Adelaide grabbed him because he was from SA, and his potential was obvious for all to see - but as you say, they've spent the last 3 years scratching their heads, trying to figure out how to extract that potential from a physique which just isn't suited to modern AFL football.
We may be getting to the end of the road soon, giving up on a player who had bucket loads of potential, but a body shape which just wouldn't ever allow him to make the most of his talents. We'll never get that pick #12 back - it's a sunk cost. It may be almost time to write that pick off, and move forward in search of the next player with great potential.
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We don’t need Walker. We need to move on, then pieces will fit.
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You are being pedantic about Fogarty
I.m sure someone will get to the bottom of it.
Mackay is the backup... once we've gone through Smith, Milera, Brown, McPherson, Hamill, and Hinge. We need 3 players out of that lot... Guess what? Only 2 are available this week, which is why Mackay is playing.
We could & would, if he was actually capable of performing at the required level, more than once every 3 years. Sadly, he's not. It's not an obsession with spots & structures, it's the expectation that players selected will be capable of performing - and Fog has consistently shown that he isn't.
We do appreciate that you massively overestimate his actual achievement. His potential is clearly there - but to date his output has not. Thilthorpe has played 1x AFL game. Coincidentally, Thilthorpe & Fogarty have both now played the same number of good AFL games.
Have you ever stopped to think & ask why they tried him as a defender? What were they trying to achieve by doing that?
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I totally agree but the higher ups have always had an allegiance to him, especially our football director.
We already have Smith, Milera, McPherson, Hamill, Brown and Hinge, all of whom are now preferred ahead of Mackay. It's just that 4 of them are MIA due to injury this week. How many more do we really need?
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Fogarty's career with the Crows is over. They ended it in favour of David Mackay.
He'll do fine at a less stupid club.
He'll do fine at a less stupid club.
He has talent... it's just buried inside a body which resembles the Incredible Hulk, and in no way resembles that of an AFL footballer.
Fogarty's career was ended by the selection of Berry. Mackay's selection has nothing to do with it.
If Brown (or Hamill) had been available this week, then Mackay wouldn't be playing and the changes would still have been Fogarty out & Berry in.
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No one cares about your pretend depth charts.
He was a superstar in the underage comps, largely because he was a manchild. He flopped in the Nationals, and recruiters started to ponder what position (if any) he would actually be able to play at AFL level. As a result, he fell to #12 in the draft, where Adelaide grabbed him - partly because of the potential he'd shown in the junior age groups, but mostly because he was from SA.
Without the SA factor, they probably join the previous 11 clubs and decide to pass on the manchild with no obvious AFL position. Probably... but it's hypothetical, as we can never really know.
It's got nothing to do with depth charts.
Mackay is replacing Brown, Murray is replacing Hamill, though you can flip those two around if you like. Either way, it's 2 defenders out for 2 defenders in.
Berry is replacing Fogarty in the midfield, and this was always going to happen regardless of what was happening with the defenders.
Maybe we'll try Fogarty in the back pocket for a few weeks. Then on a wing for a couple? Bring him in for 2 games at FF?
