Preview Geelong v Richmond Friday May7 2021 7:50 pm @ MCG

[Cataholic]

We have too many players going through the motions with little urgency. Menegola is a shell of his former self this year.

Yeah......even been noted by the commentators during some games. I thought the moment Smith went up to one of our young guys to encourage him, whilst everyone else basically ignored him, gave an interesting insight.

 

[Isaac Norm Smith]

8pt game, this one. I was surprised by how many people were writing us off after last weekend - I think that was a bit premature. But lose this one and the season is getting pretty close to shot, I'd say.

For sure. We couldn’t be getting them at a better time. I think people still underestimate what a freak Grimes is. Him being out is as significant as Danger for us. He is their general. Not too mention Prestia who chopped us up in that prelim. Cotchin out is a massive bonus

 

[Pollywaffle]

A lot of Stanley hate here.
Maybe he is carrying an injury that affects him more than we know?

 

[Isaac Norm Smith]

A lot of Stanley hate here.
Maybe he is carrying an injury that affects him more than we know?

Probably. He’s the best we have though, isn’t he? We just have to back him in and work with what we’ve currently got. End of year might be a different story, but he’s the best of a bad bunch

 

[BORIS332]

He migjt be aware of it, but has he got them doing it? Has he had them doing it consistently over the last few years? Why have we rued the stagnancy of our forward structure for so long?

The proof is in the pudding. A forward coach he is not, imo.

You're right, the proof is in the pudding - we had the highest points for in the competition last year.

 

[Pollywaffle]

We have too many players going through the motions with little urgency. Menegola is a shell of his former self this year.

Pehaps he is depressed that commentators still don't know his real name, even after several years in the team

 

[Pollywaffle]

You're right, the proof is in the pudding - we had the highest points for in the competition last year.

Your avatar gives away a certain bias on your end..

 

[Cataholic]

You're right, the proof is in the pudding - we had the highest points for in the competition last year.

We did, but were impotent on GF day.

Our forward line is neutralised far too easily, and that has been an issue for some time now.

 

[Seeds]

Grimes is a massive out. Just huge. Grimes, Prestia, Cotchin and Lambert are significant outs and their injuries are clearly worse than ours.

I think we will again back in Stanley.I know he can play 2-3 average games in a row, but historically, when he has a really shocking game, he does tend to come good the next week and surprise with a good showing. Glad he got it out the way last week rather than this week.

I actually thought we played quite well last week. Even when Swans were on top, we were still generating enough chances. We had nearly 30 shots on goal, so we generated enough chances, we were just dumb with our entries and inaccurate with conversion.

I thought Dahl looked like he is improving the last two weeks. Very limited player, but clearly seen as best 22 by those that matter.

I hope Higgins plays and plays well. He was brought in to be a difference in these big games on the G.

I think we’re on the up, we just need to tweak some things, but we’re getting Tigers at the best possible time and I’m confident we get the win here. 5-3 as opposed to 4-4 is huge

Clearly worse?

we are missing Dangerfield, miers, O’Connor, kolo And possibly Higgins.

oconnor is now a big out. Miers is underrated. And Dangerfield is still a bigger out then any of their outs.

it’s not clearly worse. It may not even be worse.

 

[catempire]

You're right, the proof is in the pudding - we had the highest points for in the competition last year.

Nah, apparently after having led scoring throughout the season we were meant to throw it out the window and try something else on Grand Final day. Sorry, at half time on Grand Final day given we were 15 points up at that stage.

 

[Isaac Norm Smith]

Clearly worse?

we are missing Dangerfield, miers, O’Connor, kolo And possibly Higgins.

oconnor is now a big out. Miers is underrated. And Dangerfield is still a bigger out then any of their outs.

it’s not clearly worse. It may not even be worse.

Looking at that, yep, I stand by what I said. Their outs are clearly worse. Miers and O’Connor handy, but they aren’t Cotchin or Prestia..

I’m lead to believe Higgins will play. Kolo might too. You have listed several of our guys who might yet play. I’ve listed confirmed Tigers outs and they are massive IMO. Grimes out with Cameron, Hawk and Rohan is very bad for them

 

[TheWoodenSlug]

I didn't realize Grimes was out - that is massive.

 

[Isaac Norm Smith]

I didn't realize Grimes was out - that is massive.

Yep. He’s their general and it seems some still underrate the man.Now we have Cameron and Rohan back in the side, that couldn’t be worse timing for Richmond IMO.

 

[My Tilly]

Grimes is an important out but their back line will be significantly strengthened with the return of Vlastuin.
Balta and Astbury are two very good key defenders. Chol may also get picked.

50/50 game now.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

I wouldn't be writing them off on the back of Grimes being out. Great player but he's made to look better because of their defensive system. Before Grimes it was Rance doing the exact same thing and when either has gone out Vlaustin has done the same thing. You need to beat the system because it's way more than the sum of its parts.

 

[Partridge]

Clearly worse?

we are missing Dangerfield, miers, O’Connor, kolo And possibly Higgins.

oconnor is now a big out. Miers is underrated. And Dangerfield is still a bigger out then any of their outs.

it’s not clearly worse. It may not even be worse.

Can't agree on that. Prestia, Grimes and Cotchin are three of their most important players. Lambert is more than handy.

We're not at full strength either (obviously), but we'll never get a better chance than this.

 

[Partridge]

I wouldn't be writing them off on the back of Grimes being out. Great player but he's made to look better because of their defensive system. Before Grimes it was Rance doing the exact same thing and when either has gone out Vlaustin has done the same thing. You need to beat the system because it's way more than the sum of its parts.

It is but he's been their best defender for a good 2-3 years now.

 

[Partridge]

Grimes is an important out but their back line will be significantly strengthened with the return of Vlastuin.
Balta and Astbury are two very good key defenders. Chol may also get picked.

50/50 game now.

That helps us. He's not up to it yet.

 

[Grechy]

Clearly worse?

we are missing Dangerfield, miers, O’Connor, kolo And possibly Higgins.

oconnor is now a big out. Miers is underrated. And Dangerfield is still a bigger out then any of their outs.

it’s not clearly worse. It may not even be worse.

I think Kolo in this game is actually a considerable out for you guys over the others. Particularly because he does such a good job on Riewoldt generally.

 

[goyoucatters]

I wouldn't be writing them off on the back of Grimes being out. Great player but he's made to look better because of their defensive system. Before Grimes it was Rance doing the exact same thing and when either has gone out Vlaustin has done the same thing. You need to beat the system because it's way more than the sum of its parts.

If we bring the ball in the same way we did against the Swans, the available Richmond defenders will have more than enough capability to see off our forwards. Let alone if we kick at goal the same way we did last weekend.

For the eleventy millionth time, no football game is ever won on paper. And that has never been more true than against this current Tigers incarnation. Their ability to have team system beat individual skill is absolutely unparalleled. So I, for one, am really hoping that we're paying very little attention to who they are missing for this game. And focusing instead on how we need to play to beat the 22 soldiers they'll put out there Friday night. Unlike many teams I've watched over the years, this Richmond line-up doesn't waver greatly in their output based on personnel. It's just system, system, system until the opposition wilts under the strain of persistent pressure.

 

[Ricketz]

Conceding 14 goals from 39 entries is good?

Conversion rate is in the hands of the opposition. Only 39 entries is pretty good, but we could only have tried to force them wider to circumvent their accuracy.

 

[Chinacats]

Conversion rate is in the hands of the opposition. Only 39 entries is pretty good, but we could only have tried to force them wider to circumvent their accuracy.

Not all on the opposition. Where are they having their set shots? Is the defensive pressure hot enough? I mean McLean took a few marks in the goal square basically. Not good enough.

 

[Isaac Norm Smith]

I wouldn't be writing them off on the back of Grimes being out. Great player but he's made to look better because of their defensive system. Before Grimes it was Rance doing the exact same thing and when either has gone out Vlaustin has done the same thing. You need to beat the system because it's way more than the sum of its parts.

Not sure who is writing them off. Their injuries and outs don’t guarantee us a win. But what it does do, is absolutely increase our chances of securing a valuable 4-points. We will have to play very well to win, but we won’t get a better chance than on Friday night..

 

[Turkey Tom]

On Enright...we have no idea from the outside whether he is a good forward coach or not, BUT it does amuse me that we have a side full of defenders and the forward coach is a ex-defender. Maybe too much defensive mindset?

 

[Chinacats]

If we try get over them through a sheer weight of forward entry numbers then we're just working hard padding Grimes and Vlaustins stats. We need to think about our entries.

Sydney beat them by moving it short and drawing their spare defenders out. Melbourne just handpassed around them. I think we need to hit the corridor and kick to whichever side they have fewer numbers on. We also can't let our mids get sucked forward too much. They need to stay out and defend the rebound exit

Yes agree staying out and defending the rebound exit is very important .