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Which leads me to my question, is he the right person to take this group forward?Concerns me too
Also, I wonder if Cripps form is relationship driven?
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Which leads me to my question, is he the right person to take this group forward?Concerns me too
Nick Austin surely needs to be questioned. Zac Williams on 900k x 6 years. Not a midfielder. Fogarty is being found out. Can understand why he couldn’t get a game at the cats. Saad just a pass mark. Not worth pick 8.
If we run into trouble lets just trade Mcgovern return on investment has been a disaster and see no reason it will turn around .
No disrespect intended, but would you be willing to give up effectively more than two top 10 picks for Cripps? Because that's what Cerra + 1st equates to. I think if you got Cerra in return for Cripps, you'd be ecstatic. His form has dropped immensely, and Cerra is a future A grader for sure
Which leads me to my question, is he the right person to take this group forward?
Also, I wonder if Cripps form is relationship driven?
It would ideal for both clubs, so long as the AFL signed off on itI’d be creative and trade SPS for Cerra on the grounds that we don’t match and get band 1
Cerra and 1st round compo for Cripps and SPS.
Only if Cripps wants to go and get two selections in the top 10.
Both top 5 picks that want to go homeIt would ideal for both clubs, so long as the AFL signed off on it
KPF/RUCK
KPD
- Weideman (OOC)/ Riccardi (OOC)/ Brander (OOC)
- McLean (OOC) - Swans
- Marshall (OOC 2022) - Port Forward 38 games for 39 goals
- Coleman-Jones (OOC) - Forward/Ruck, first game this weekend
- Frampton (OOC 2022) - Adelaide Forward/Ruck
Schache (OOC 2022)- Only as last resort if there are no suitable KPP left
RUCK
- Ben McKay (OOC)
- Sicily (OOC 2022) - Maybe cheap because coming off a knee, offers the mongrel we need and leadership
- Lukosius (OOC 2022) - Worth a look elite by foot
- Flynn (OOC) - GWS
- Lynch (OOC) - Collingwood
- Darcy (OOC 2022) - Would prefer the others first
MIDFIELDER & FORWARD UPGRADES
- Fogarty (OOC) - Adelaide. Only if Russell believes he can get him fit, big body, De Goey style Mid/ Forward, elite kick
- Lipinski (OOC) - Bulldogs. Elite by foot Forward/ Mid (Upgrade)
- Richards (OOC) - Bulldogs. Speedy, elite by foot Forward/ Mid (Upgrade)
- Constable (OOC) - Geelong
- West (OOC 2022) - Bulldogs inside mid F&S, could be an absolute steal
- Cameron (OOC 2022) - Played 12 games for 13 goals
- Sholl (OOC 2022) - Probably off limits with Adelaide now
Wow, great couple of posts here. Is there a place you found OOC players by position, or was it just in general?Others that I hope we are looking at are-
KPD
RUCK
- Sam De Konning - Doubt Geelong let him go but could be a gun KPD/Ruck
- Ben Mckay (Nth) - Harry's brother, getting better every week.. Doubt his gettable
FORWARD
- Callum Colman Jones (RICH) - Stuck behind a few in the pecking order at Richmond, athletic Ruck/ Forward
KPF
- Jarrod Cameron (WCE) - Charlies brother, performed well in his AFL games, just behind so many small forwards at West Coast..
Could be a gun small forward given the chance- Darcy Fogerty (ADE) - Would be worth bugger all.. Could be a good forward that attends the centre bounces Dusty style, also excellent kick..
Needs fitness ASAP- Patric Lipinski (WBD) - Can't seem to crack Bulldogs midfield or forward line, super user of the ball
MIDFIELDERS
- Jarron Brander (WCE) - Started career as a tall winger, would be hard to get as is getting game time, may want to come home to Vic
- Jake Riccardi (GWS) - Would be a great 2nd forward/ Ruck to Mckay.. Would be hard to get rated highly by GWS
WING
- Rhylee West (WBD)- Could be the steal of trade week (Josh Kennedy (SYDNEY) style), looks to be a promising inside mid. May look for opportunities elsewhere.. But has a strong Father Son connection
- Ed Richards (WBD)- Another Promising Mid/ Forward, may be gettable from the dogs with their bursting mids.. Had a broken leg
- Adam Cerra (FRE) - Good young midfielder, Comes with a large price tag, Picks/ Money that I don't think we should pay
- Josh Dunkley (WBD) - Super midfielder, Comes with a large price tag, Picks/ Money that I don't think we should pay
- Zach Merrett (ESS) - Super Star Mid, Is a free agent. Comes with a large price tag, that I think we would pay
- Tom Green (GWS) - Highly rated young mid, that seems to have stagnated at GWS, getting games though
- Fraser Rosman (MELB) - This kid could be a freak, super talented and x factor.. Not sure why he went late in the draft, maybe needs time
Picked up the wrong McDonald, Tom was shopped around for a bag of mixed lollies!
I think this heatmap illustrates the point.
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Carlton on the right.
We try to stretch the ground too much. Makes it too easy to pick holes in our defensive structures because players are so far apart.
Edit: wrong thread. Could a mod please move it. Thanks
Yep, our defensive press is horrible and all wrong, we guard dead space instead of pushing up higher and tighter over the entire ground giving ourselves a much better chance of not being opened up so easily..I think this heatmap illustrates the point.
View attachment 1123746
Carlton on the right.
We try to stretch the ground too much. Makes it too easy to pick holes in our defensive structures because players are so far apart.
Edit: wrong thread. Could a mod please move it. Thanks
No. It’s my belief that they were only short term selections to bring in some older bodies. Smelts was steak knifes on a deal and Lang late pick.Geez you don't mind going early do you?
Did you question SOS when he traded Smedts and Lang who both couldn't get a game at the Cats either?
Not sure we need an elite ruck.Concerned where we are at with our list management and payment structure, since SOS left..
On what we learn and on the face of it. Looks like it is getting/got out of control, we are recklessly spending in the pursuit of the 8, not a flag.
Reportedly (Bolded not signed yet, ** over paid for their output)
**Saad - $650-$750
**Williams - $800-$900
**Cripps - $800+
Harry - $800-$1m
Walsh - $800+
**Curnow - $700-$800
**McGovern - $700+
**Martin - $650-$700
Thats = $6,100,000 of a $13.1m cap on 8 players
+
Docherty - ?
Weitering - ?
That to me looks like we are up sh*t creek without a paddle. Half our cap is on 8 players and only two of them are worth it (Harry & Walsh)
Concerned that our premiership hope may be over before it even started.
To contend we are in desperate need of an elite KPF/Ruck, 2 x KPD and 2 X Elite midfielders
We may need to try get rid of Williams, Saad, McGovern and Cripps to afford what we need..
I do worry if we lose Cripps or McKay the club will take a massive hit members wise if we lose both they will burn the place down..
How do we get what we need in the apparent situation we are in?
Concerned where we are at with our list management and payment structure, since SOS left..
On what we learn and on the face of it. Looks like it is getting/got out of control, we are recklessly spending in the pursuit of the 8, not a flag.
Reportedly (Bolded not signed yet, ** over paid for their output)
**Saad - $650-$750
**Williams - $800-$900
**Cripps - $800+
Harry - $800-$1m
Walsh - $800+
**Curnow - $700-$800
**McGovern - $700+
**Martin - $650-$700
Thats = $6,100,000 of a $13.1m cap on 8 players
+
Docherty - ?
Weitering - ?
That to me looks like we are up sh*t creek without a paddle. Half our cap is on 8 players and only two of them are worth it (Harry & Walsh)
Concerned that our premiership hope may be over before it even started.
To contend we are in desperate need of an elite KPF/Ruck, 2 x KPD and 2 X Elite midfielders
We may need to try get rid of Williams, Saad, McGovern and Cripps to afford what we need..
I do worry if we lose Cripps or McKay the club will take a massive hit members wise if we lose both they will burn the place down..
I do hope we have a plan regarding our KPD stocks...very, very thin right now.
And as much as I like Jones when he's 'on' and being an intercept marking king, he just doesn't seem to have the footy IQ required to be able to rely on him every week and in big games.
- It's estimated in the media we are paying or about to pay half our cap on 8 players.. This didn't include Weitering or Docherty's estimated wage
because it hasn't been discussed.. That leaves $7,000,000 for 30 other players, which is crazy. Yes some of the 8 may be front loaded which may alter figures but it is still obscure. We should have spread the load like a Richmond, Geelong or Hawthorne of old- Don't read Herald Sun or watch 360, find Robbo a disgusting fu** wit and Whaetley reminds me of the kid that couldn't catch the ball at school.