1. Which current player has played with the most different team mates?
2. Which current player has played against the most different opponents?
I'm going to guess that the answer to both is Paddy Ryder.
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1. Which current player has played with the most different team mates?
2. Which current player has played against the most different opponents?
That’s amazing that you have to go back that far to see that occurrence. I’m surprised it hasn’t happened since.
Maybe Tom Hickey. Huge turnover in his time with us plus three more clubs.I'm going to guess that the answer to both is Paddy Ryder.
AFL Tables - All Time Records - MiscellaneousIs there a way to locate the youngest selected teams - I thought there was something on Paul’s website but apparently not? Just interested to know what the youngest sekected team of all time is. I reckon it would have to be GWS in one of the games from 2012?
Awesome. Thanks for that. I must’ve spent half an hour rifling through random player stats pages. I may even have clicked on that page. Anyway as expected it was gWS but 2013 not 2012.
1911 was the year when St Kilda used 62 players, so it wasn't a war year. The club had a players strike in 1911, so that might have caused the numbers to really blow out, but the number was high for the two previous years as well:Awesome. Thanks for that. I must’ve spent half an hour rifling through random player stats pages. I may even have clicked on that page. Anyway as expected it was gWS but 2013 not 2012.
some of the figures in players used were astounding. In one year (I presume war affected) St Kilda had a whopping 62 players used. That’s insane. I can’t see any close to that apart from North with 50 in one season.
Yep I’m pretty savvy with this site. But the more obscure stuff is difficult to find sometimes. Absolutely love it. It’s constantly open in my tabs and I refer to it all the time.1911 was the year when St Kilda used 62 players, so it wasn't a war year. The club had a players strike in 1911, so that might have caused the numbers to really blow out, but the number was high for the two previous years as well:
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North Melbourne are the only other club to hit the 50 mark. You probably know this, but clicking on the heading lets you see the top figure for each club (click it again to see the bottom figure):
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1. Which current player has played with the most different team mates?
2. Which current player has played against the most different opponents?
Oh, it may have occurred since, just that I started at 1897 and worked my forward because the early years of VFL comp had lower scores generally.That’s amazing that you have to go back that far to see that occurrence. I’m surprised it hasn’t happened since.
Going vack to 'Players on Losing teams polling Brownlow votes' -
1 What is the biggest margin in a game in which a player from the Losing side has polled Brownlow votes? (And, if possible, what are the margins for 'biggest loss for 1 vote, 2 votes etc).
I know Fyfe polled 3 votes when Richmond beat Freo by 77 a couple of years ago - don't know if that is the record.
Margin | Player | Club | Year | Round | Opponent | Votes |
124 | Watters, Scott | Syd | 1993 | 6 | N.M. | 1 |
116 | Buckley, Nathan | Bris | 1993 | 14 | Ess | 1 |
105 | Primus, Matthew | Fitz | 1996 | 9 | N.M. | 1 |
104 | Cripps, Patrick | Carl | 2018 | 23 | Adel | 2 |
103 | Hardie, Brad | Bris | 1987 | 10 | Carl | 1 |
100 | Priddis, Matt | W.C. | 2008 | 10 | Coll | 1 |
99 | Roos, Paul | Fitz | 1991 | 9 | W.C. | 1 |
98 | Phillips, Andrew | Carl | 1991 | 23 | Haw | 1 |
98 | West, Scott | W.B. | 1995 | 3 | Carl | 2 |
97 | Ablett junior, Gary | G.C. | 2012 | 10 | Coll | 3 |
94 | Ward, Callan | GWS | 2013 | 10 | Carl | 1 |
93 | Crow, Max | St.K | 1984 | 2 | Coll | 1 |
92 | Ablett junior, Gary | G.C. | 2012 | 2 | St.K | 3 |
92 | Neale, Lachie | Frem | 2016 | 22 | GWS | 1 |
88 | Foschini, Silvio | St.K | 1986 | 3 | Carl | 1 |
88 | Burns, Greg | St.K | 1987 | 22 | W.C. | 1 |
86 | Loewe, Stewart | St.K | 2000 | 18 | W.C. | 1 |
85 | Grant, Shannon | N.M. | 2005 | 9 | Geel | 1 |
85 | Zorko, Dayne | Bris | 2017 | 16 | Geel | 1 |
84 | Hasleby, Paul | Frem | 2009 | 13 | Coll | 1 |
83 | Rockliff, Tom | Bris | 2014 | 14 | Frem | 1 |
82 | Sherman, Justin | Bris | 2006 | 19 | Rich | 1 |
82 | Bentick, Adam | Carl | 2007 | 21 | N.M. | 1 |
82 | Griffen, Ryan | W.B. | 2012 | 21 | Syd | 2 |
81 | Palm, David | Rich | 1985 | 12 | Ess | 1 |
81 | Cresswell, Daryn | Syd | 1999 | 5 | Adel | 1 |
81 | Cousins, Ben | W.C. | 2001 | 12 | Coll | 1 |
I was wondering what's the most amount of games players within a team have played upon their MCG debut.
ie. Crows currently have
Chayce Jones with 29 games Ned McHenry with 20 games upon others without a game at the MCG
But I do wonder if in the early years there's some quite high totals as a player could play every game for 2 years except at Melbourne and play 42 games.
So maybe just for the AFL-era? (Or even 2000-present as it was about then when games stopped playing at suburban grounds)
Games | Player | Clubs | Career |
84 | Crump, Alf | NM | 1942-1948 |
76 | Dearle, Laurie | Es | 1942-1947 |
74 | Burke, Jack | Ha | 1939-1945 |
69 | King, Jack F. | Ha | 1941-1945 |
66 | Tribe, George | WB | 1940-1946 |
65 | Hartridge, Ron | St,Sy | 1938-1946 |
63 | Hand, Pat | WB | 1943-1949 |
61 | Williams, Jack E. | Sy | 1939-1946 |
59 | Allister, Jack | Es,NM | 1938-1945 |
58 | Butler, Bill | St | 1942-1946 |
58 | Hamilton, Stuart | Ha | 1943-1947 |
58 | Hines, Ron | Ca | 1943-1948 |
56 | Lyons, Jack G. | Es,NM | 1945-1948 |
55 | Zurhaar, Cameron | NM | 2017-2021* |
54 | Whitfield, Ted | Sy | 1939-1945 |
52 | Ryan, Phil J. | Ha | 1941-1946 |
51 | Wilks, Don | Ha | 1943-1945 |
50 | Brannan, Andy | Ri,Ha | 1942-1946 |
Game # | Player | Clubs | Career |
110 | Bennett, Jack B. | Ca | 1940-1947 |
96 | Castles, Vic | Sy | 1942-1947 |
90 | Ruthven, Allan | Fi | 1940-1954 |
89 | Oppy, Max | Ri | 1942-1954 |
88 | Culpitt, Wally | Ha | 1940-1948 |
87 | Hutchison, Bill | Es | 1942-1957 |
86 | Mears, Harry | Co,Sy | 1940-1948 |
84 | Grossman, Don | Sy | 1940-1947 |
81 | Fitzgibbon, Fred | Ca | 1942-1948 |
79 | Clark, Jim | Ca | 1943-1951 |
74 | Worrall, Malcolm | Ha | 1944-1950 |
73 | Wade, Kevin | Co | 1942-1949 |
73 | Deans, Billy | Sy,Me | 1941-1950 |
73 | Burns, Jack R. | Co | 1941-1947 |
69 | Wallis, Tom | Co | 1942-1947 |
69 | Morris, Bill | Ri | 1942-1951 |
67 | Giles, Bob | Sy | 1950-1955 |
67 | Henderson, Bob | Fi | 1953-1962 |
67 | Hoskins, George | Fi | 1942-1947 |
66 | McIntyre, Ern | St,Co | 1940-1949 |
65 | Cook, Fred G. | Ri | 1944-1949 |
64 | Ryan, Phil George | Co | 1942-1947 |
64 | Mooney, Arthur | Ri | 1943-1948 |
64 | Burge, Fred | Ri | 1942-1950 |
61 | Jarvis, Noel | Fi | 1944-1952 |
60 | Wilson, Billy P. | Ri | 1944-1954 |
Games | Player | Clubs | Career |
55 | Zurhaar, Cameron | NM | 2017-2021 |
41 | Larkey, Nick | NM | 2017-2021 |
29 | Jones, Chayce | Ad | 2019-2021 |
25 | McAdam, Shane | Ad | 2020-2021 |
22 | Mahony, Jack | NM | 2020-2021 |
22 | Himmelberg, Elliott | Ad | 2018-2021 |
21 | Sholl, Lachlan | Ad | 2020-2021 |
21 | Schoenberg, Harry | Ad | 2020-2021 |
20 | Young, Lachie | WB,NM | 2019-2021 |
20 | Taylor, Curtis | NM | 2019-2021 |
20 | McPherson, Andrew | Ad | 2020-2021 |
20 | McHenry, Ned | Ad | 2020-2021 |
Game # | Player | Clubs | Career |
56 | Stevens, Koby | WC,WB,St | 2010-2018 |
43 | Amon, Karl | PA | 2015-2021 |
42 | Lynch, Quinten | WC,Co | 2002-2013 |
41 | Merrett, Daniel | Br | 2005-2016 |
39 | Cutler, Tom | Br,Es | 2014-2021 |
36 | MacPherson, Darcy | GC | 2016-2021 |
36 | Grover, Antoni | Fr | 1999-2012 |
35 | Lockett, Tony | St,Sy | 1983-2002 |
31 | Clurey, Tom | PA | 2014-2021 |
31 | Ingerson, Anthony | Ad,Me | 1992-2001 |
31 | Drummond, Josh | Br | 2005-2012 |
30 | Stiller, Cheynee | Br | 2006-2012 |
30 | Jericho, Luke | Ad | 2004-2008 |
30 | Green, Kasey | WC,NM | 2000-2007 |
Is there a way to consolidate the data per team at any one time?Most games with none at MCG
Games Player Clubs Career 84 Crump, Alf NM 1942-1948 76 Dearle, Laurie Es 1942-1947 74 Burke, Jack Ha 1939-1945 69 King, Jack F. Ha 1941-1945 66 Tribe, George WB 1940-1946 65 Hartridge, Ron St,Sy 1938-1946 63 Hand, Pat WB 1943-1949 61 Williams, Jack E. Sy 1939-1946 59 Allister, Jack Es,NM 1938-1945 58 Butler, Bill St 1942-1946 58 Hamilton, Stuart Ha 1943-1947 58 Hines, Ron Ca 1943-1948 56 Lyons, Jack G. Es,NM 1945-1948 55 Zurhaar, Cameron NM 2017-2021* 54 Whitfield, Ted Sy 1939-1945 52 Ryan, Phil J. Ha 1941-1946 51 Wilks, Don Ha 1943-1945 50 Brannan, Andy Ri,Ha 1942-1946
First game at MCG
Game # Player Clubs Career 110 Bennett, Jack B. Ca 1940-1947 96 Castles, Vic Sy 1942-1947 90 Ruthven, Allan Fi 1940-1954 89 Oppy, Max Ri 1942-1954 88 Culpitt, Wally Ha 1940-1948 87 Hutchison, Bill Es 1942-1957 86 Mears, Harry Co,Sy 1940-1948 84 Grossman, Don Sy 1940-1947 81 Fitzgibbon, Fred Ca 1942-1948 79 Clark, Jim Ca 1943-1951 74 Worrall, Malcolm Ha 1944-1950 73 Wade, Kevin Co 1942-1949 73 Deans, Billy Sy,Me 1941-1950 73 Burns, Jack R. Co 1941-1947 69 Wallis, Tom Co 1942-1947 69 Morris, Bill Ri 1942-1951 67 Giles, Bob Sy 1950-1955 67 Henderson, Bob Fi 1953-1962 67 Hoskins, George Fi 1942-1947 66 McIntyre, Ern St,Co 1940-1949 65 Cook, Fred G. Ri 1944-1949 64 Ryan, Phil George Co 1942-1947 64 Mooney, Arthur Ri 1943-1948 64 Burge, Fred Ri 1942-1950 61 Jarvis, Noel Fi 1944-1952 60 Wilson, Billy P. Ri 1944-1954
Current players with none at MCG
Games Player Clubs Career 55 Zurhaar, Cameron NM 2017-2021 41 Larkey, Nick NM 2017-2021 29 Jones, Chayce Ad 2019-2021 25 McAdam, Shane Ad 2020-2021 22 Mahony, Jack NM 2020-2021 22 Himmelberg, Elliott Ad 2018-2021 21 Sholl, Lachlan Ad 2020-2021 21 Schoenberg, Harry Ad 2020-2021 20 Young, Lachie WB,NM 2019-2021 20 Taylor, Curtis NM 2019-2021 20 McPherson, Andrew Ad 2020-2021 20 McHenry, Ned Ad 2020-2021
First game at MCG for players who played 2000-current
Game # Player Clubs Career 56 Stevens, Koby WC,WB,St 2010-2018 43 Amon, Karl PA 2015-2021 42 Lynch, Quinten WC,Co 2002-2013 41 Merrett, Daniel Br 2005-2016 39 Cutler, Tom Br,Es 2014-2021 36 MacPherson, Darcy GC 2016-2021 36 Grover, Antoni Fr 1999-2012 35 Lockett, Tony St,Sy 1983-2002 31 Clurey, Tom PA 2014-2021 31 Ingerson, Anthony Ad,Me 1992-2001 31 Drummond, Josh Br 2005-2012 30 Stiller, Cheynee Br 2006-2012 30 Jericho, Luke Ad 2004-2008 30 Green, Kasey WC,NM 2000-2007
Is there a way to consolidate the data per team at any one time?
Games | Year | Round | Club | Players = 0 |
203 | 2021 | 13 | Adel | 12 |
191 | 2021 | 12 | Adel | 12 |
175 | 2021 | 13 | N.M. | 7 |
174 | 2021 | 11 | N.M. | 7 |
169 | 2021 | 11 | Adel | 11 |
167 | 2021 | 10 | N.M. | 7 |
167 | 2021 | 9 | N.M. | 8 |
161 | 2021 | 9 | Adel | 12 |
159 | 2021 | 8 | N.M. | 8 |
157 | 2021 | 7 | N.M. | 9 |
155 | 2011 | 21 | G.C. | 13 |
147 | 2011 | 22 | G.C. | 14 |
145 | 2021 | 7 | Adel | 12 |
144 | 2021 | 10 | Adel | 11 |
143 | 2021 | 6 | N.M. | 8 |
139 | 2021 | 6 | Adel | 11 |
132 | 2007 | 14 | Bris | 8 |
131 | 2007 | 16 | Bris | 7 |
131 | 2011 | 19 | G.C. | 13 |
130 | 2021 | 8 | Adel | 10 |
Games | Year | Round | Club | Players = 0 |
750 | 1947 | 11 | Carl | 17 |
734 | 1947 | 9 | Carl | 17 |
703 | 1947 | 10 | Carl | 17 |
675 | 1947 | 8 | Carl | 16 |
647 | 1946 | 19 | Carl | 16 |
639 | 1947 | 7 | Carl | 16 |
621 | 1946 | 17 | Carl | 17 |
612 | 1946 | 18 | Carl | 16 |
605 | 1946 | 16 | Carl | 17 |
593 | 1947 | 5 | Carl | 16 |
588 | 1946 | 15 | Carl | 17 |
564 | 1947 | 6 | Carl | 16 |
558 | 1947 | 14 | Rich | 16 |
553 | 1946 | 11 | Carl | 16 |
526 | 1947 | 3 | Carl | 15 |
524 | 1947 | 13 | Rich | 15 |
524 | 1946 | 13 | Carl | 16 |
517 | 1946 | 14 | Carl | 16 |
508 | 1946 | 12 | Carl | 16 |
508 | 1947 | 4 | Carl | 16 |
Are there any other examples of records like this, expansion teams beating an opponent in their first year and then not beating them again for many years after?
most disposals without a Brownlow vote?
Cousins got 39 and a goal rd22 2001 but I dont think got a vote due to a 112 point loss to port.
I think there was a Greg Williams one in 93 too
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most disposals without a Brownlow vote?
Disposals | Goals | Player | Club | Year | Round | Opp | Result | Margin |
50 | 1 | Shaw, Tony | Coll | 1991 | 5 | Bris | W | 22 |
48 | 2 | Malaxos, Steve | W.C. | 1987 | 22 | St.K | W | 88 |
47 | 1 | Crouch, Matt | Adel | 2019 | 23 | W.B. | L | 34 |
46 | 2 | Mitchell, Barry | Syd | 1991 | 18 | Adel | W | 4 |
46 | 1 | Mitchell, Tom | Haw | 2018 | 9 | Bris | L | 56 |
45 | 0 | Priddis, Matt | W.C. | 2008 | 14 | Haw | L | 57 |
45 | 0 | Boyd, Matthew | W.B. | 2011 | 5 | Frem | L | 7 |
44 | 0 | Harvey, Robert | St.K | 1992 | 2 | W.B. | L | 32 |
44 | 1 | McDermott, Chris | Adel | 1992 | 20 | Rich | W | 110 |
44 | 0 | McDermott, Chris | Adel | 1993 | 8 | N.M. | W | 2 |
44 | 1 | Williams, Greg | Carl | 1993 | 10 | Melb | W | 54 |
44 | 1 | Bickley, Mark | Adel | 1993 | 11 | W.B. | W | 45 |
44 | 1 | Ratten, Brett | Carl | 1995 | 17 | Fitz | W | 97 |
44 | 0 | Bowden, Joel | Rich | 2009 | 4 | Melb | L | 8 |
44 | 2 | Bastinac, Ryan | N.M. | 2012 | 2 | GWS | W | 129 |
44 | 0 | Boyd, Matthew | W.B. | 2012 | 7 | N.M. | W | 18 |
44 | 1 | Mundy, David | Frem | 2016 | 19 | Syd | L | 90 |
44 | 0 | Oliver, Clayton | Melb | 2019 | 2 | Geel | L | 80 |
North Melbourne beat Geelong by 8 points at Corio Oval in its first ever VFL match in 1925 before losing its next 23 against the Cats. Their next win was in 1939.
Gold Coast/Port Adelaide is a clear second.
Three teams lost their next 8 after winning their first encounter:
Brisbane/Melbourne
St.Kilda/Richmond*
Western Bulldogs/West Coast*
Next best is 4:
Collingwood/Port Adelaide*
Fremantle/Geelong
Gold Coast/Brisbane
GWS/Gold Coast
GWS/Port Adelaide
North Melbourne/Western Bulldogs**
* against expansion clubs
** both new clubs