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I don't remember all the talk being about Brisbane at all. But also, talk in general is misleading. Maybe people were talking about Brisbane because repeating yourself about Melbourne for 9th week running isn't going to bring in any more radio listeners ?Even when Melbourne were sitting atop with an 8-0 record all the talk was about Brisbane and their 5 match winning streak.
And Melbourne accounted for Brisbane easily not that long ago.
If I had my choice to play any side currently in the 8 in the finals it would be Brisbane and I wouldn't care if it was played at their local racetrack.
Does it mean we'll win this game? No
Let's wait until the whips are cracking and watch them fold like origami.
He’s been give the secret role of being a foward.
You would have Kolo’s head on a stick for this:That’s because, unlike Kolo, they represent about 5% of his involvement in play. Kolo, it’s probably hitting 70% (so he does do the odd good thing in the 7 touches a game he gets).
You would have Kolo’s head on a stick for this:
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Lucky Hannan fell over or Stewart would have been responsible for the first two goals of the game.
Thank you for the latest example of the double standard. That’s right, he does make mistakes as does every player. Let’s observe and criticise them on their merits. Not excuse some and not others because we like certain players more than others.Yep, he makes mistakes, but they don't appear to happen as often as they do with others, and he imparts far more reassurance with ball in hand than others do.
Stewart had an awesome game on Friday, but he did make some crucial errors too. The most glaring was when he turned the ball over through the middle in the 1st and then made little effort to chase back. The worst was in the final quarter when he was caught ball watching, zoned off his man McLean who ended up goalling for them to reclaim the lead late. Have a look at the behind the goal footage at 3.53 remaining in the 4th. Don't want to take the shine off a great performance, but seems relevant if we're to hold him to the same standards as others in his defensive work.That’s because, unlike Kolo, they represent about 5% of his involvement in play. Kolo, it’s probably hitting 70% (so he does do the odd good thing in the 7 touches a game he gets).
Thank you for the latest example of the double standard. That’s right, he does make mistakes as does every player. Let’s observe and criticise them on their merits. Not excuse some and not others because we like certain players more than others.
As I have stated.How have I displayed a double standard?
As I have stated.
Stewart had an awesome game on Friday, but he did make some crucial errors too. The most glaring was when he turned the ball over through the middle in the 1st and then made little effort to chase back. The worst was in the final quarter when he was caught ball watching, zoned off his man McLean who ended up goalling for them to reclaim the lead late. Have a look at the behind the goal footage at 3.53 remaining in the 4th. Don't want to take the shine off a great performance, but seems relevant if we're to hold him to the same standards as others in his defensive work.
One of the problems being Geelong. So many teams are up and about when they play us, because of what we did to them last time...Hopefully we are prepared, because they will come for us. They were filthy about the last game, and want revenge.
Thank you for getting it.Stewart had an awesome game on Friday, but he did make some crucial errors too. The most glaring was when he turned the ball over through the middle in the 1st and then made little effort to chase back. The worst was in the final quarter when he was caught ball watching, zoned off his man McLean who ended up goalling for them to reclaim the lead late. Have a look at the behind the goal footage at 3.53 remaining in the 4th. Don't want to take the shine off a great performance, but seems relevant if we're to hold him to the same standards as others in his defensive work.
Thank you for the latest example of the double standard. That’s right, he does make mistakes as does every player. Let’s observe and criticise them on their merits. Not excuse some and not others because we like certain players more than others.
By the way, I gave Stewart 5 votes (and but for David the Cat would have given him 15!). It’s possible to marvel at outstanding performance but be critical of mistakes simultaneously. It’s not all or nothing.
How is a constraint a tactic?Who, unlike Miers, isn't expected to roam the ground end to end?
I say Higgin's age keeps him closer to F50, and therefore a tactic.
How is a constraint a tactic?
I think the nuance here is that Stewart appears to do it less often than others, hence they take a greater share of the 'error limelight'.
I haven't seen anyone say Stewart doesn't make mistakes, I certainly don't, but to his credit he seems to make less of them. That doesn't absolve his errors, but they do seem more an anomaly when compared to others who are more error prone.
Again, you are doing precisely what I’m talking about. Acknowledging the mistakes in one breath but then immediately suggesting they be treated different based on whether a player is BOG or not. That is the double standard.Not sure where you're getting this idea that Stewart is above criticism tbh. He had a couple of shocking moments early in the game and was criticized for them accordingly.
He more than made up for them throughout the rest of the game, as expected from a player of his caliber.
You compare it to criticism toward Kolo for his mistakes - when was the last time he was clearly BOG? Has he ever been?
Really good players get more leeway for mistakes than average players because a) it's more rare and b) they're far more likely to redeem themselves. That's not double standards imo.
kolo doesn’t make 1 or 2. He makes a lot more. Its usually only 1-2 that result in goals. There are a lot more that don’t. No one focuses on those. We are focusing on Stewart’s for some reason though.This is the problem with confirmation bias. Kolo might only make 1 or 2 mistakes a game but gets hounded for it, Stewart, by my count, made 6 mistakes that led to scoring shots on Friday night but doesn't cop the same amount of crap as Kolo for 1 or 2.
That's what CE is saying, people hold Kolo to insane standards yet don't hold players in similar positions to the same, due mostly to personal bias.
Personally I'm not a fan of Kolo either, I'd have him out of the side for Clark or another flanker unless we are playing a mostly tall forwardline.
kolo doesn’t make 1 or 2. He makes a lot more.
stewart saved atleast 8 scoring shots on the weekend. It more then offset the mistakes.
and on top created scoring shots from attacking play. His metres gains was the equivalent of a dominant Gary Ablett midfield game.
No he isn’t. He is saying they were offset by other plays. he is not reducing their value.Again, you are doing precisely what I’m talking about. Acknowledging the mistakes in one breath but then immediately suggesting they be treated different based on whether a player is BOG or not. That is the double standard.
A mistake is a mistake. It has consequences in its own right, regardless of what the player who committed it is capable of in other parts of the game.
This is the problem with confirmation bias. Kolo might only make 1 or 2 mistakes a game but gets hounded for it, Stewart, by my count, made 6 mistakes that led to scoring shots on Friday night but doesn't cop the same amount of crap as Kolo for 1 or 2.
That's what CE is saying, people hold Kolo to insane standards yet don't hold players in similar positions to the same, due mostly to personal bias.
Personally I'm not a fan of Kolo either, I'd have him out of the side for Clark or another flanker unless we are playing a mostly tall forwardline.
Hypothetical:No he isn’t. He is saying they were offset by other plays. he is not reducing their value.
10 saves minus 5 mistakes = net of 5 saves.
Again, you are doing precisely what I’m talking about. Acknowledging the mistakes in one breath but then immediately suggesting they be treated different based on whether a player is BOG or not. That is the double standard.
A mistake is a mistake. It has consequences in its own right, regardless of what the player who committed it is capable of in other parts of the game.
Stewart averages 0.157 turnovers per possession this year.Again, I'm happy to admit that Stewart makes mistakes, and some of them in the last game were bad. Got absolutely no problem with that, and I don't think anyone else here does either.
It's the frequency with which those errors are made, week in, week out, that is the point being made. Yep, Stewart deserves a whack, just like others, but thankfully he doesn't commit them as often either.