Scott Morrison - How Long? Part 4

[Chief]

This is part 4.

Part 5 is here:

Scott Morrison - How Long? Part 5 - The stroll out.

Continued in Part 6. https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/scott-morrison-how-long-part-6-the-coal-man.1290651/

www.bigfooty.com

 

[Hoops]

..… the people who were saying this was a “do nothing govt”, aren’t terribly surprised at the failure of procuring vaccines

Sigh….in contrast…

****ing Smug Canadians!

 

[Ghost Patrol]

I have a mini and love it

I got a smart car last year because it was real cheap, was going to flip for profit but kinda fell in love with it.

 

[Saint]

No it’s not against do no harm; when there is circulating covid then the risk of doing nothing also can be harmful. You are right in your last sentence- be informed of risks and make a choice

The AMA is saying GPs shouldn't be administering the AZ to under 60's and they should wait for Pfizer. This isn't Anti-Vaxx stuff. It's pro-Vax, just the appropriate Vaccine.

Though the AMA is now having mixed messages to an extent....

Australia’s top medical body refuses to endorse PM’s announcement that under-40s can get AstraZeneca

Exclusive: AMA says Scott Morrison’s announcement about younger people getting AZ Covid jab goes against advice from vaccine safety body

www.theguardian.com

 

[swingdog]

******* Smug Canadians!

You were getting vaccinated with your pals the other day......

 

[Hoops]

You were getting vaccinated with your pals the other day......

I think you are confusing me with someone else. Ive had one dose by myself and this is the first BF knows about it

 

[QuietB]

A lockdown in Perth now.

Thanks Scomo.

This whole thing is hilarious (sort of).

Morrison spent the whole of last week taking credit for the work of the states on CoVid. Less than a handful of days later the entire country is in lockdown - except Victoria.

The AMA is saying GPs shouldn't be administering the AZ to under 60's and they should wait for Pfizer. This isn't Anti-Vaxx stuff. It's pro-Vax, just the appropriate Vaccine.

Though the AMA is now having mixed messages to an extent....

Australia’s top medical body refuses to endorse PM’s announcement that under-40s can get AstraZeneca

Exclusive: AMA says Scott Morrison’s announcement about younger people getting AZ Covid jab goes against advice from vaccine safety body

www.theguardian.com

The Morrison government are reactionary dickheads. And Brendan Murphy is a yes man stooge.

Their story changes with the wind. Useless idiots.

 

[The Cryptkeeper]

******* Smug Canadians!

I like to call it leadership.

 

[swingdog]

I think you are confusing me with someone else. Ive had one dose by myself and this is the first BF knows about it

 

[Hoops]

I like to call it leadership.

Yes, but they are so polite that even when they aren't being smug it comes across as smug.

 

[Crankyhawk]

The AMA is saying GPs shouldn't be administering the AZ to under 60's and they should wait for Pfizer. This isn't Anti-Vaxx stuff. It's pro-Vax, just the appropriate Vaccine.

Though the AMA is now having mixed messages to an extent....

Australia’s top medical body refuses to endorse PM’s announcement that under-40s can get AstraZeneca

Exclusive: AMA says Scott Morrison’s announcement about younger people getting AZ Covid jab goes against advice from vaccine safety body

www.theguardian.com

and the thing that has changed is the risk of acquiring COVID has increased compared to when atagi made their statement on over 60s only for AZ. This changes the risk balance. Whether it changes it enough to overturn atagi i don't claim to know; but I am not opposed to the idea of increased vaccination (including the risk of complications) while covid risk is increased; atagi may eventually come to a decision but don't hold your breath.

 

[Saint]

and the thing that has changed is the risk of acquiring COVID has increased compared to when atagi made their statement on over 60s only for AZ. This changes the risk balance. Whether it changes it enough to overturn atagi i don't claim to know; but I am not opposed to the idea of increased vaccination (including the risk of complications) while covid risk is increased; atagi may eventually come to a decision but don't hold your breath.

Hardly. Are there like 2 people in hospital from the virus, even during these outbreaks which will soon be under control?

Even if there's a 2020 Melbourne type outbreak, the real risk is still to over 60's who are yet to be vaccinated.

 

[Crankyhawk]

Hardly. Are there like 2 people in hospital from the virus, even during these outbreaks which will soon be under control?

Even if there's a 2020 Melbourne type outbreak, the real risk is still to over 60's who are yet to be vaccinated.

as a fully vaccinated HCW i'm probably not the fairest person to ask, i see the potential downsides of rampant virus much easier than the risks of vaccination; and would also give a future reason to avoid more forking lockdowns

 

[Maddhew]

Oh dear!

What is the issue? Are we criticising him our vaccination numbers and criticising him for trying to improve them?

Do you want them to stay low because it fits the narrative?

 

[Ghost Patrol]

and the thing that has changed is the risk of acquiring COVID has increased compared to when atagi made their statement on over 60s only for AZ. This changes the risk balance. Whether it changes it enough to overturn atagi i don't claim to know; but I am not opposed to the idea of increased vaccination (including the risk of complications) while covid risk is increased; atagi may eventually come to a decision but don't hold your breath.

They also need to consider, if the lockdown works, that advice would need to change again in 2 weeks.

 

[NSWCROW]

frydo and spud must be giving each other the sideways glance right now

 

[The Cryptkeeper]

It's rare that I agree with Peta Credlin but surely we cannot be waiting until we get 70% of people vaccinated in order to allow those who are complete freedom of movement.

The best incentive for vaccination, in my opinion would be to reward those who do with the right to come and go as they please, both domestically and internationally. I think this should apply sooner rather than later. Locking down fully vaccinated people kind of defeats the purpose of vaccination.

A fully vaccinated person in Germany, for example is no longer burdened by masks, shutdowns or mandatory testing. Life is back to normal for those people. Meanwhile, my fully vaccinated wife and I missed her grandmother's interstate funeral yesterday due to the threat of lockdown (Port Macquarie, still an orange zone). We didn't want to take the risk of travelling interstate and a potential 14 day isolation period upon our return.

 

[Ghost Patrol]

Remember when Morrison warned us about taking medical advice from politicians?

Morrison says Craig Kelly 'is not my doctor', evading question on Covid misinformation

PM also uses press club speech to say he wants to get Australia to net zero emissions ‘preferably by 2050’

www.theguardian.com

 

[winty]

What is the issue? Are we criticising him our vaccination numbers and criticising him for trying to improve them?

Do you want them to stay low because it fits the narrative?

What I want is for the PM to have spent the last 12 months making sure both quarantine and the vaccination rollout were both organised competently so we wouldn't be in the position we are now. Apparently that was too much to ask for.

The fact his latest vaccination announcement was made with no input from anyone else, contradicts other announcements and is against all medical advice is par for the course from this incompetent buffoon though.

 

[Ned_Flanders]

frydo and spud must be giving each other the sideways glance right now

#2 trending hashtag is #libspill

 

[The Cryptkeeper]

#2 trending hashtag is #libspill

They'll be a crumbling wreck by the time the election comes around.

If the ALP can't pick over that carcass then heaven help us all.

 

[Financialpanther]

They'll be a crumbling wreck by the time the election comes around.

If the ALP can't pick over that carcass then heaven help us all.

Nothing will surprise me if the ALP can't get this in a romp - its dueling incompetence and its clear the losers are the electorate in either scenario (much like the catch line for the movie, Aliens v Predators, whoever wins, we lose).

 

[NSWCROW]

#2 trending hashtag is #libspill

Well we all know what happens next

knife


* 8 months pass *


.....

 

[anchor man]

I challenge anyone to come up with 2 words that describe sQomo better than "useless" and "dickhead".

Fcktard.

 

[NSWCROW]

Keep thinking back to that last week of march.

 

[Ned_Flanders]

Well we all know what happens next

knife


* 8 months pass *


.....

I dont think Frydo has the balls, or the numbers. BUT...

I'd love Potato to challenge again, and stuff up the math, again