Scott Morrison - How Long? Part 4

[Chief]

This is part 4.

Part 5 is here:

Scott Morrison - How Long? Part 5 - The stroll out.

Continued in Part 6. https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/scott-morrison-how-long-part-6-the-coal-man.1290651/

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[campbell]

I appreciate that. However what is our path out of endless lockdowns? How do we incentivise people to get vaccinated?

There needs to be a an end point.

We will no, 6 weeks prior to Fed Election is called.

 

[Ghost Patrol]

 

[Seeds]

This campaigners f’ed in the head



Home-quarantine ???
You gonna stick a copper in front of EVERY returned travellers house ???

only for fully vaccinated. Who really cares if the vaccinated leave the house.

 

[campbell]

only for fully vaccinated. Who really cares if the vaccinated leave the house.

I do.

Imagine a super spreader event at Woolies or a hospital ward.

 

[Seeds]

Slogans? They were genuine policies not slogans. And rather then making a captains call on thé thresholds he is relying on independent modelling. The way it should be.

stop being so partisan. For once it seems like they have done something decent in the national cabinet. moving away from Covid cases to hospitilization rates. This is massive good news. Extra rewards for the vaccinated.

thé only other thing I wanted to hear that wasn’t made was an announcememt about new pro vaccine advertising.


we still however need a royal inquiry into the vaccine rollout out failure. The libs stuffed up here and their needs to be punishments.

 

[Seeds]

I do.

Imagine a super spreader event at Woolies or a hospital ward.

But those people are vaccinated. They almost certainly won’t have the virus to spread. very few vaccinated get the virus.

 

[Seeds]

you get vaccinated to have a LESSER chance of being infected, a LESSER chance of passing it on if you are, and a LESSER chance of adverse outcomes

vaccines dont make you immune

If they are infected they can still pass it on to non-vaccinated people if they ignore home quarantine (as 30%+ did 18m ago)

So the probabilities are extremely low. These people will also be tested as well so that’s an extra line of defence.

 

[Aristotle Pickett the3rd]

Slogans? They were genuine policies not slogans. And rather then making a captains call on thé thresholds he is relying on independent modelling. The way it should be.

stop being so partisan. For once it seems like they have done something decent in the national cabinet. moving away from Covid cases to hospitilization rates. This is massive good news. Extra rewards for the vaccinated.

thé only other thing I wanted to hear that wasn’t made was an announcememt about new pro vaccine advertising.


we still however need a royal inquiry into the vaccine rollout out failure. The libs stuffed up here and their needs to be punishments.

Do you accept that sqomos greatest qualification is his ability to spin?
He has failed miserably on vaccines purchased and the lack of national quarantine. Can we agree on that?

 

[Gough]

Sqummo hasn't seen Jen n the girls for a month which must have been nice for them.

 

[Seeds]

thé lefties posting negative comments after today press conference are complete partisan fools.

partisan Posters from both sides of politics really need to stop posting on Covid. We are all sick of your idiocy.

this is the best news we have had since Covid began.

 

[Seeds]

Do you accept that sqomos greatest qualification is his ability to spin?
He has failed miserably on vaccines purchased and the lack of national quarantine. Can we agree on that?

Yes. The vaccine rollout has been a national disaster And heads must roll in the federal liberal party. I’ve posted extensively on this. I want a royal commission.

but today’s news is in the right direction. Moving away from case numbers to hospitalization rates. Tick. Incentives now to get vaccinated. Tick. A soon to be released non politically determined vaccine threshold. Tick. Can we agree on that?

 

[Xtreme]

ScoMo just won himself another 8 years today!

 

[Ghost Patrol]

Yes. The vaccine rollout has been a national disaster And heads must roll in the federal liberal party. I’ve posted extensively on this. I want a royal commission.

but today’s news is in the right direction. Moving away from case numbers to hospitalization rates. Tick. Incentives now to get vaccinated. Tick. Can we agree on that?

There's not enough vaccines, won't be until end of year.

No actual targets have been set, just announcing that they might set some at a later date.

 

[Seeds]

ScoMo just won himself another 8 years today!

going A bit early. He still has to deliver on vaccines and encourage Australians to take them up to meet the thresholds. if He fails that he is still in big trouble.

 

[BruceFromBalnarring]

Putting aside for a minute the blame for our vaccine roll out, and I'm not sure where it lies.

Why should Australia be a priority for vaccine access in the first place? It seems odd for progressive types to be raging about that.

 

[Ned_Flanders]

I appreciate that. However what is our path out of endless lockdowns? How do we incentivise people to get vaccinated?

There needs to be a an end point.

when enough people are vaccinated, the risk of them infecting people is lessened and home quarantine becomes viable

5% isnt enough to do that yet

 

[Cooldude]

thé lefties posting negative comments after today press conference are complete partisan fools.

partisan Posters from both sides of politics really need to stop posting on Covid. We are all sick of your idiocy.

this is the best news we have had since Covid began.

Ironic

 

[Seeds]

There's not enough vaccines, won't be until end of year.

No actual targets have been set, just announcing that they might set some at a later date.

He announced that he is not setting the targets and they will be determined by modelling already underway. thé modelling has already done targets for the previous strains but still needs to update them for the delta strain. We need these targets very soon so if they are delayed multiple months then this is a failure. But if we get them soon then that’s fine. Understandable as to why they aren’t quite ready yet. And surely it’s a positive that it’s coming from independent scientific analysis and not the liberal party room? I’m sure thé labour state governments in the national cabinet pushed for that.

 

[Number37]

 

[Heisenberg_]

thé lefties posting negative comments after today press conference are complete partisan fools.

partisan Posters from both sides of politics really need to stop posting on Covid. We are all sick of your idiocy.

this is the best news we have had since Covid began.

On the contrary, only a partisan fool would still actually think that bumbling moron has the ability to fix this mess of his own creation.

 

[Seeds]

Ironic

Why so? Ive been more negative about the feds then the labour state governments.

 

[Ned_Flanders]

So the probabilities are extremely low. These people will also be tested as well so that’s an extra line of defence.

no they are not extremely low

as we have seen in the UK, even with 50% vaccinated infection rates are on par with previous waves (an improvement considering delta is more infectious). the big change is hospitalisations are massively down

we need more than 5% fully vaccinated to be there however

 

[Seeds]

On the contrary, only a partisan fool would still actually think that bumbling moron has the ability to fix this mess of his own creation.

This was a national cabinet outcome not a federal liberal government outcome.

you guys realise that right? This isn’t coming from the federal liberal party room. It’s coming from a cabinet meeting that involves mostly state labour leaders.

 

[Ghost Patrol]

He announced that he is not setting the targets and they will be determined by modelling already underway. thé modelling has already done targets for the previous strains but still needs to update them for the delta strain. We need these targets very soon so if they are delayed multiple months then this is a failure. But if we get them soon then that’s fine. Understandable as to why they aren’t quite ready yet. And surely it’s a positive that it’s coming from independent scientific analysis and not the liberal party room? I’m sure thé labour state governments in the national cabinet pushed for that.

No, you've just been gaslighted by Morrison again.

 

[BruceFromBalnarring]

when enough people are vaccinated, the risk of them infecting people is lessened and home quarantine becomes viable

5% isnt enough to do that yet

Ok but it's only a trial isn't it?

It's 8% isn't it? And far more partially vaccinated. And the percentage of vulnerable age groups far more again.

Why wouldn't you in this transition phase trial home quarantine for the fully vaccinated?