Farmer privilege

[Seeds]

Farmers always want bloody exemptions. Keep all the profits during good years but then demand tax payer handouts during the drought years.

they want exemptions from climate mitigation. They are a major source of the problem. But constantly get left out of the picture due to their strong lobbying efforts.

now they want exemptions from fortTess Australia.

here’s an idea. If we have to suffer through fortress Australia then You do too. You are not exempt from the rest of us. You do not deserve special privilege.

maybe you could start paying proper wages to your workers as other industries do rather then importing cheap overseas labour. some of the workers they use are almost treated like slaves. Australians want jobs. You just don’t want to pay them. That’s the cause of your mental illness. Your unwillingness to pay workers what they deserve.

it’s time for a mass clean out of the farming industry. Get rid of all the inefficient farms. Maybe this could be one positive of Covid.

'Mental health is deteriorating': Farmers beg for exemption for overseas harvest workers

For the second year in a row COVID-19 is causing headaches for grain farmers, who are begging the Federal and state governments to allow them to bring in overseas machinery drivers for this year's harvest.

www.abc.net.au

 

[James_Blues]

Farmers always want bloody exemptions. Keep all the profits during good years but then demand tax payer handouts during the drought years.

they want exemptions from climate mitigation. They are a major source of the problem. But constantly get left out of the picture due to their strong lobbying efforts.

now they want exemptions from fortTess Australia.

here’s an idea. If we have to suffer through fortress Australia then You do too. You are not exempt from the rest of us. You do not deserve special privilege.

maybe you could start paying proper wages to your workers as other industries do rather then importing cheap overseas labour. some of the workers they use are almost treated like slaves. Australians want jobs. You just don’t want to pay them. That’s the cause of your mental illness. Your unwillingness to pay workers what they deserve.

it’s time for a mass clean out of the farming industry. Get rid of all the inefficient farms. Maybe this could be one positive of Covid.

'Mental health is deteriorating': Farmers beg for exemption for overseas harvest workers

For the second year in a row COVID-19 is causing headaches for grain farmers, who are begging the Federal and state governments to allow them to bring in overseas machinery drivers for this year's harvest.

www.abc.net.au

Not saying that the industry is exempt from criticism. But I will respond to the bolded point. I would say that a large majority of farmers don't want exemption from climate mitigation, some may be apathetic towards it but many if not most are all for addressing climate change. Most if not all of the industry bodies recognise the inevitable impacts of climate change and as such are setting pretty strong emissions reduction targets such as MLA wanting to be carbon neutral by 2030, and the NFF wanting to have net zero emissions by 2050.

Those wanting exemptions from climate mitigation or net zero targets are the Nationals such as Michael McCormack.

 

[Power Raid]

famers will make a fortune out of climate change

they will be the biggest beneficiaries of carbon sequestration credits

 

[Seeds]

Not saying that the industry is exempt from criticism. But I will respond to the bolded point. I would say that a large majority of farmers don't want exemption from climate mitigation, some may be apathetic towards it but many if not most are all for addressing climate change. Most if not all of the industry bodies recognise the inevitable impacts of climate change and as such are setting pretty strong emissions reduction targets such as MLA wanting to be carbon neutral by 2030, and the NFF wanting to have net zero emissions by 2050.

Those wanting exemptions from climate mitigation or net zero targets are the Nationals such as Michael McCormack.

10 years ago this certainly wasn’t the case. But if things have changed that’s one positive. Although as you say it certainly hasnt changed with nationals who represent farming communities. So what’s going on there?

 

[Kwality]

with nationals who represent farming communities

Poor measure of the farming industry through politics.

 

[Seeds]

Poor measure of the farming industry through politics.

Why would the party that represents farming communities have such opposing views to farmers on climate change? Hell most of the nationals are directly from farming households?

 

[James_Blues]

10 years ago this certainly wasn’t the case. But if things have changed that’s one positive. Although as you say it certainly hasnt changed with nationals who represent farming communities. So what’s going on there?

Well I was quite surprised by this article that came out last week

Senior National admits farmers are not party's core constituency

Matt Canavan said the idea the Nationals only represented the agriculture industry was a "misinterpretation".

www.canberratimes.com.au

Not sure why they've seemingly moved away from representing farmers

 

[Gethelred]

At no other time have I wanted Craven Morehead to come out of retirement than right now.

 

[kranky al]

famers will make a fortune out of climate change

they will be the biggest beneficiaries of carbon sequestration credits

The greenough solar plant case in point!!

The farmer there had done sfa to ameliorate rising salt levels and got kissed on the dick by a fairy when he got to leasr a whole bunch of land that was white with salt and only useful for growing salt resistant weeds was picked out and is now leased for xxx years for the solar plant.

In the construction stage i dont think i ever saw this guy without s stupid big grin on his face.

 

[Power Raid]

The greenough solar plant case in point!!

The farmer there had done sfa to ameliorate rising salt levels and got kissed on the dick by a fairy when he got to leasr a whole bunch of land that was white with salt and only useful for growing salt resistant weeds was picked out and is now leased for xxx years for the solar plant.

In the construction stage i dont think i ever saw this guy without s stupid big grin on his face.

sadly a case of being paid for environmental damage

I feel we should aim higher

 

[Kwality]

sadly a case of being paid for environmental damage

I feel we should aim higher

Potentially putting the ground to viable use?

 

[Power Raid]

Potentially putting the ground to viable use?

I was referring to clearing land and placing solar panels over it

We should be looking to increase the carbon levels in the soil



FMG has just made a huge play pegging canarvon to exmouth. I'm keen to understand what this is all about but my punt is Green.

 

[Leeda]

famers will make a fortune out of climate change

they will be the biggest beneficiaries of carbon sequestration credits

They have to have enough cows to blow the cobwebs out…

 

[Kwality]

I was referring to clearing land and placing solar panels over it

We should be looking to increase the carbon levels in the soil



FMG has just made a huge play pegging canarvon to exmouth. I'm keen to understand what this is all about but my punt is Green.

I was referring to the Greenough solar farm.

 

[Johnny Bananas]

I would say that a large majority of farmers don't want exemption from climate mitigation, some may be apathetic towards it but many if not most are all for addressing climate change.

It'd be nice if they voted in a manner that was reconcilable with this ambition.

 

[Kwality]

It'd be nice if they voted in a manner that was reconcilable with this ambition.

They represent their constituency & they arent climate activists who would sacrifice Australia with a zero benefit game.

 

[Marcel Proust]

Farmers always want bloody exemptions. Keep all the profits during good years but then demand tax payer handouts during the drought years.

they want exemptions from climate mitigation. They are a major source of the problem. But constantly get left out of the picture due to their strong lobbying efforts.

now they want exemptions from fortTess Australia.

here’s an idea. If we have to suffer through fortress Australia then You do too. You are not exempt from the rest of us. You do not deserve special privilege.

maybe you could start paying proper wages to your workers as other industries do rather then importing cheap overseas labour. some of the workers they use are almost treated like slaves. Australians want jobs. You just don’t want to pay them. That’s the cause of your mental illness. Your unwillingness to pay workers what they deserve.

it’s time for a mass clean out of the farming industry. Get rid of all the inefficient farms. Maybe this could be one positive of Covid.

'Mental health is deteriorating': Farmers beg for exemption for overseas harvest workers

For the second year in a row COVID-19 is causing headaches for grain farmers, who are begging the Federal and state governments to allow them to bring in overseas machinery drivers for this year's harvest.

www.abc.net.au

They want to pay people in food and housing ..

 

[Kwality]

They want to pay people in food and housing ..

Plenty of overseas markets prepared to pay dollars .... must be something about being hungry.
See farming in Sri Lanka or the Netherlands - privilege ?

 

[Marcel Proust]

Plenty of overseas markets prepared to pay dollars .... must be something about being hungry.
See farming in Sri Lanka or the Netherlands - privilege ?

Food security is very important imho. More so pandemics and world events.

However industries like hospitality, farming not wanting to pay people in money is a bit rough

 

[QuietB]

Farmers always want bloody exemptions. Keep all the profits during good years but then demand tax payer handouts during the drought years.

They've still got a fair way to go to catch Joyce and Qantas

 

[Kwality]

Food security is very important imho. More so pandemics and world events.

However industries like hospitality, farming not wanting to pay people in money is a bit rough

bit rough YES ++++++ ... privilege nah.

People will fight over food, not go hungry.

 

[Sydney Kicker]

Food security is very important imho. More so pandemics and world events.

However industries like hospitality, farming not wanting to pay people in money is a bit rough

No it's not. Not for Australia anyway. Vested interests keep peddling that line but it's bs. ABARES should know...

Don't panic: Australia has truly excellent food security

Almost all of the food we consume in Australia is made in Australia. We export far more than we import.

theconversation.com

 

[Seeds]

Food security is very important imho. More so pandemics and world events.

However industries like hospitality, farming not wanting to pay people in money is a bit rough

No its not. we produce far too much food.

health services and shelter in this country is more important and we are lacking in both.

 

[Seeds]

Farmers are big emission Producers. Yet somehow they have managed to scam the climate policy system by not only avoiding carbon taxes on the emissions they produce, but they get paid carbon subsidies simply for not creating more emissions that many wouodnt have anyway. Its insane.

 

[Present Not Past]

Yeah we all feel sorry for Gina Reinhardt. It must be terrible to be down to your last $20b.