GreyCrow
TheBrownDog
- Mar 21, 2016
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Preview
Adelaide lost to an Essendon team that had better players, coaches and selections. West Coast lost to North. And they played Monday to our Friday. And they hate playing away
AWAY Record
Last Time They Met
I think West Coast have had it easy against us.
And given Adelaide have only won 21 times out of 50 games played over the journey its fair to suggest we struggle against the King of the Big Birds.
But you know what - this might be that one time
Changes
Very early but we can say for certain Doedee is out and Walker back in. Not sure Brown gets up and either Frampton or Himmelberg get dropped. I think Berg might get a chance and Billy out.
James Rowe might want to avoid any phone calls from Nicks over the next few days
Ins might be from Lynch , Gollant or Cook.
With West Coasts loss tonight there may be some repercussions for some and some resting for others. Given the short nature of the Eagles week they may concede this one at selection.
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In an eerie coincidence I asked a WC supporter for some thoughts. Given the good feedback I got from the interview with The Filth Wizard I decided to do another one . Given North beat WC I am sure Filthy is smiling from ear to ear
MrKK is someone I have got to know from the poker board and found out he plays around the traps I inhabit. But he is also a foreign Eagles supporter. But I dither
What was your first memory of a West Coast game?
My first Eagles memory was everyone in our street gathered at someone's house for the 1992 GF but I wasn't into footy then. I'd grown up in NSW as a Rugby League fan and it took me a couple of years to get into it when we moved to Perth. The game that hooked me was the epic SA vs Vic SOO game at Footy Park in 1994, one of the best games of all time.
It was a number of years before I went to my first game as tickets were hard to come by and my parents weren't interested. I know we lost to Port at Subiaco but can't remember anything else about it. I'd been to a lot of Freo games before my first Eagles game as tickets were easy to get and my mates supported them.
Why and how did you come to support the Eagles ie did you move to WA etc
Once I got into footy there was only one team in Perth at the time so the Eagles were it. I've only lived in Adelaide about 10 years.
What games v Adelaide stand out
The good
Much more good than bad as it definitely feels like we've had the wood over the Crows for the majority of our histories. The 2006 PF is one of the best performances we've ever produced but I was living overseas at the time and only caught it on replay so it doesn't resonate with me as much as it should.
Plenty of recent good ones and I've been at all of these:
2013 - kick 3 in the last 3 minutes to win
2014 - spotted the Crows the first 5 goals and still won big, first signs of the game plan that got us to the 2015 GF.
2016 - Rd 23 win at AO to cost the Crows top-4 (let's not talk about the next game)
2019 - another comeback win at AO
Living in Adelaide recently has been an absolute blessing as an Eagles fan of late when you add on all of the hurt we've put on Port to the wins above.
The bad
I can't remember any really bad ones. 2018 we lost to a big Crows fourth quarter comeback, but we won the flag so it's forgotten about.
In your time supporting WC who is your favourite player?
Ben Cousins will always be my favourite. We're the same age and he was a rising star at the same time as I was getting seriously into the Eagles. Hope he sorts himself out so his legacy will be for the right reasons.
I don't have a current favourite since Lewis Jetta's departure at the end of last year.
West Coast have won twice as many flags as Adelaide - from the outside it looks like WC are a well run club with each move made with a definite purpose in mind. From coaching to drafting WC look like they have made the right moves at the right time
Is that also the perception from fans or is it different?
Depends which fans you ask lol!
I'm in the camp of thinking the club does most things very well and as an organisation has totally turned around from the scandals of 15 years ago. The new club facilities at Lathlain are great and debt-free while things like returning the wings jumpers made the club feel closer to the fans. If they could just ditch the abomination that is our current song...
Drafting and player development is a strange mix. We've had a solid spine for as long as I can remember with a lot of great talls from late draft picks, but our development of midfielders is a growing problem with not much coming through to get excited about. There's something going awry there but hard to put your finger on it from outside the club.
On the coaching front I'm getting restless with Adam Simpson - our performances since 2018 have gotten progressively worse and we're not getting the most out of a hugely-talented list right now. Might need an edit after tonight's shitshow lol. Just to say that Simpson is on very thin ice - we have no idea how to play when the conditions, ground or opponent don't suit us and our game plan has been completely worked out.
What period stands out for you ? 90-94 or 05/06 (dont say 05/06 dont say 05/06)
How about neither? 90-94 I only got on board for the end and 05-06 I was out of the loop living overseas. The last 10 years I've been my most invested in the Eagles and 2018 was the culmination of that.
Both Adelaide and WC have 'little brothers' ie teams that came along after - what feelings do you have for Freo or do you have to live in WA to get that feeling?
Outside of the derbies, they're just another team to beat. We are a huge club that should be aiming for flags rather than focusing on our local rivals. It's hard to get worked up over a club that has been a metaphor for failure for most of their existence.
The WA rivalry doesn't reach the heights of the pure hate that I sometimes witness between the SA clubs, probably because there isn't the history of bad blood surrounding the teams' entries into the AFL.
What margin do you predict for the game and will you go to the match?
Like you, I'm secretly hoping to be running deep in the APL Main Event on Sunday and unable to attend the match! But barring that I'll be there for sure.
Both teams are running rough at the moment but for now we have a talent and experience gap over the Crows that will count in the end. We'll make hard work of it though and will do nothing to repair our shocking percentage. Eagles by 20.
What changes would you expect or is it time to throw every magnet in the air?
Simpson is frustratingly reluctant to drop his favourite senior players but our best efforts the last 2 years have been when we've played youth through necessity.
If he's serious:
Harry Edwards for McGovern
Bailey Williams for Darling (Allen to play forward)
Luke Edwards and Foley for Sheed and Gaff, Duggan moved into midfield.
But it will probably be some rubbish like Edwards and Waterman for Ah Chee and Langdon that makes stuff all difference.
Thank you MrKK and if anyone has some follow up questions I am sure he may attempt to answer them
Adelaide lost to an Essendon team that had better players, coaches and selections. West Coast lost to North. And they played Monday to our Friday. And they hate playing away
AWAY Record
Team | Games | Kicks | Handballs | Disposals | Marks | Tackles | Goals | Behinds | Hitouts. | FF | FA | |||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
West Coast Eagles | 7 | 209.4 | 118.3 | 327.7 | 95.0 | 50.4 | 10.6 | 9.5 | 43.3 | 16.4 | 18.0 | |||
Opponent | 7 | 234.1 | 166.6 | 400.7 | 109.3 | 59.6 | 14.1 | 12.6 | 23.9 | 18.0 | 16.4 | |||
Team/Opp. Diff. | 7 | -24.7 | -48.3 | -73.0 | -14.3 | -9.1 | -3.6 | -3.1 | 19.4 | -1.6 | 1.6 |
Last Time They Met
Round 9, 16 May 2021 | Optus Stadium | West Coast defeats Adelaide | 106-76 | R. Laird 36 | J. Darling 5 |
Round 6, 11 Jul 2020 | Gabba | West Coast defeats Adelaide | 67-34 | B. Smith 31 | J. Darling 2 |
Round 21, 11 Aug 2019 | Optus Stadium | West Coast defeats Adelaide | 90-80 | M. Crouch 43 | D. Fogarty 5 |
Round 10, 25 May 2019 | Adelaide Oval | Adelaide defeated by West Coast | 73-85 | B. Crouch 39 | - |
Round 15, 30 Jun 2018 | Adelaide Oval | Adelaide defeats West Coast | 88-78 | A. Gaff 37 | T. Walker 3 |
I think West Coast have had it easy against us.
And given Adelaide have only won 21 times out of 50 games played over the journey its fair to suggest we struggle against the King of the Big Birds.
But you know what - this might be that one time
Changes
Very early but we can say for certain Doedee is out and Walker back in. Not sure Brown gets up and either Frampton or Himmelberg get dropped. I think Berg might get a chance and Billy out.
James Rowe might want to avoid any phone calls from Nicks over the next few days
Ins might be from Lynch , Gollant or Cook.
With West Coasts loss tonight there may be some repercussions for some and some resting for others. Given the short nature of the Eagles week they may concede this one at selection.
**********************************
In an eerie coincidence I asked a WC supporter for some thoughts. Given the good feedback I got from the interview with The Filth Wizard I decided to do another one . Given North beat WC I am sure Filthy is smiling from ear to ear
MrKK is someone I have got to know from the poker board and found out he plays around the traps I inhabit. But he is also a foreign Eagles supporter. But I dither
What was your first memory of a West Coast game?
My first Eagles memory was everyone in our street gathered at someone's house for the 1992 GF but I wasn't into footy then. I'd grown up in NSW as a Rugby League fan and it took me a couple of years to get into it when we moved to Perth. The game that hooked me was the epic SA vs Vic SOO game at Footy Park in 1994, one of the best games of all time.
It was a number of years before I went to my first game as tickets were hard to come by and my parents weren't interested. I know we lost to Port at Subiaco but can't remember anything else about it. I'd been to a lot of Freo games before my first Eagles game as tickets were easy to get and my mates supported them.
Why and how did you come to support the Eagles ie did you move to WA etc
Once I got into footy there was only one team in Perth at the time so the Eagles were it. I've only lived in Adelaide about 10 years.
What games v Adelaide stand out
The good
Much more good than bad as it definitely feels like we've had the wood over the Crows for the majority of our histories. The 2006 PF is one of the best performances we've ever produced but I was living overseas at the time and only caught it on replay so it doesn't resonate with me as much as it should.
Plenty of recent good ones and I've been at all of these:
2013 - kick 3 in the last 3 minutes to win
2014 - spotted the Crows the first 5 goals and still won big, first signs of the game plan that got us to the 2015 GF.
2016 - Rd 23 win at AO to cost the Crows top-4 (let's not talk about the next game)
2019 - another comeback win at AO
Living in Adelaide recently has been an absolute blessing as an Eagles fan of late when you add on all of the hurt we've put on Port to the wins above.
The bad
I can't remember any really bad ones. 2018 we lost to a big Crows fourth quarter comeback, but we won the flag so it's forgotten about.
In your time supporting WC who is your favourite player?
Ben Cousins will always be my favourite. We're the same age and he was a rising star at the same time as I was getting seriously into the Eagles. Hope he sorts himself out so his legacy will be for the right reasons.
I don't have a current favourite since Lewis Jetta's departure at the end of last year.
West Coast have won twice as many flags as Adelaide - from the outside it looks like WC are a well run club with each move made with a definite purpose in mind. From coaching to drafting WC look like they have made the right moves at the right time
Is that also the perception from fans or is it different?
Depends which fans you ask lol!
I'm in the camp of thinking the club does most things very well and as an organisation has totally turned around from the scandals of 15 years ago. The new club facilities at Lathlain are great and debt-free while things like returning the wings jumpers made the club feel closer to the fans. If they could just ditch the abomination that is our current song...
Drafting and player development is a strange mix. We've had a solid spine for as long as I can remember with a lot of great talls from late draft picks, but our development of midfielders is a growing problem with not much coming through to get excited about. There's something going awry there but hard to put your finger on it from outside the club.
On the coaching front I'm getting restless with Adam Simpson - our performances since 2018 have gotten progressively worse and we're not getting the most out of a hugely-talented list right now. Might need an edit after tonight's shitshow lol. Just to say that Simpson is on very thin ice - we have no idea how to play when the conditions, ground or opponent don't suit us and our game plan has been completely worked out.
What period stands out for you ? 90-94 or 05/06 (dont say 05/06 dont say 05/06)
How about neither? 90-94 I only got on board for the end and 05-06 I was out of the loop living overseas. The last 10 years I've been my most invested in the Eagles and 2018 was the culmination of that.
Both Adelaide and WC have 'little brothers' ie teams that came along after - what feelings do you have for Freo or do you have to live in WA to get that feeling?
Outside of the derbies, they're just another team to beat. We are a huge club that should be aiming for flags rather than focusing on our local rivals. It's hard to get worked up over a club that has been a metaphor for failure for most of their existence.
The WA rivalry doesn't reach the heights of the pure hate that I sometimes witness between the SA clubs, probably because there isn't the history of bad blood surrounding the teams' entries into the AFL.
What margin do you predict for the game and will you go to the match?
Like you, I'm secretly hoping to be running deep in the APL Main Event on Sunday and unable to attend the match! But barring that I'll be there for sure.
Both teams are running rough at the moment but for now we have a talent and experience gap over the Crows that will count in the end. We'll make hard work of it though and will do nothing to repair our shocking percentage. Eagles by 20.
What changes would you expect or is it time to throw every magnet in the air?
Simpson is frustratingly reluctant to drop his favourite senior players but our best efforts the last 2 years have been when we've played youth through necessity.
If he's serious:
Harry Edwards for McGovern
Bailey Williams for Darling (Allen to play forward)
Luke Edwards and Foley for Sheed and Gaff, Duggan moved into midfield.
But it will probably be some rubbish like Edwards and Waterman for Ah Chee and Langdon that makes stuff all difference.
Thank you MrKK and if anyone has some follow up questions I am sure he may attempt to answer them
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