List Mgmt. 2021 List Management: Draft, Trade, Free Agency and Academy

[Dockeroo]

I’d keep crowden ahead of Colyer TBH.
I know Travis has had a decent year and he’s a good bloke but he will be 13 years in the AFL in 2022.
He ain’t getting any better than this. He’s a very limited player at this level.
I still believe Crowden excellent ball use by foot gives him a point of difference from the other plodders listed by Paracleet. He just needs to get an extra 5 or 6 disposals a game. He’s only 21 and still has upside IMO.
If Thomas somehow is kept around they obviously believe he is something special.
Did he play peel reserves this weekend?

 

[Ysaye]

That time of year again: Predictions (players out of contract this year):

Adam Cerra	Resign / Trade
Bailey Banfield	Delist
Brett Bewley	Delist
Darcy Tucker	Resign / Trade
David Mundy	Resigned
Ethan Hughes	Resigned
Lachlan Schultz	Resign/ Trade
Leno Thomas	Delist
Lloyd Meek	Resign/ Trade
Mitchell Crowden	Delist
Nathan Wilson	Resign/ Trade
Reece Conca	Delist (Retire)
Stefan Giro	Delist
Stephen Hill	Delist (Retire)
Taylin Duman	Resign
Tobe Watson	Delist
Travis Colyer	Will be resigned

Of the delists you have listed, I would suggest that I think only Thomas, Conca (behavioural), Hill (injuries) and Giro (footy reasons) will be delists.

I think Banfield, Crowden and Bewley will go again (maybe they will move Bewley to the rookie list) just because they can play positions for which we have only small number of candidates for and they are hard working on the training track. I also think Watson will probably go around again, simply because like Duman he can fill a range of positions in the backline.

 

[WilloTree]

Of the delists you have listed, I would suggest that I think only Thomas, Conca (behavioural), Hill (injuries) and Giro (footy reasons) will be delists.

I think Banfield and Bewley will go again (maybe they will move Bewley to the rookie list) just because they can play positions for which we have only small number of candidates for and they are hard working on the training track. I also think Watson will probably go around again, simply because like Duman he can fill a range of positions in the backline.

Cerra - gorn - I get the vibes that Carlton is in for their 1st, SPS and some junk swapped. Shame.
Conca
Hill

1 more.

We're OS on Half backs so, Duman - but just a guess,

 

[mayne iac]

Going on Bells last few years of trading, we wont be accepting anything like the above. Nor should we.
2 firsts, and they have to top 18.

 

[blue shark]

Of the delists you have listed, I would suggest that I think only Thomas, Conca (behavioural), Hill (injuries) and Giro (footy reasons) will be delists.

I think Banfield, Crowden and Bewley will go again (maybe they will move Bewley to the rookie list) just because they can play positions for which we have only small number of candidates for and they are hard working on the training track. I also think Watson will probably go around again, simply because like Duman he can fill a range of positions in the backline.

How long to we keep Valente around? It’s getting pretty close to a bust now. 1 more year?
I’d like to see a winger with both outside/inside work, Bewley, Gero, defensively? I’d like to see Freddy, Young on the wings.
Duman, Watson, just don’t look/have AFL bodies.
Polson at Peel is a better option if available?

 

[Docker82]

Of the delists you have listed, I would suggest that I think only Thomas, Conca (behavioural), Hill (injuries) and Giro (footy reasons) will be delists.

I think Banfield, Crowden and Bewley will go again (maybe they will move Bewley to the rookie list) just because they can play positions for which we have only small number of candidates for and they are hard working on the training track. I also think Watson will probably go around again, simply because like Duman he can fill a range of positions in the backline.

Bewley is already on the rookie list.

I think Watson is gone tbh.

 

[blue shark]

Going on Bells last few years of trading, we wont be accepting anything like the above. Nor should we.
2 firsts, and they have to top 18.

Ding Dong needs a house dropped on him from Dale. To lose Hogan, then maybe Lobb?

 

[Spirit Level]

The more I think about it the more I'd like Erasmus with our first round pick.

Erasmus round 1, JVR round 2 and that's a perfect haul.

 

[Puregold]

The more I think about it the more I'd like Erasmus with our first round pick.

Erasmus round 1, JVR round 2 and that's a perfect haul.

Add Williams into that as well if we can get our hands on a late first rounder

 

[Spirit Level]

Add Williams into that as well if we can get our hands on a late first rounder

Or swap Lobb for Jackson

 

[blue shark]

Add Williams into that as well if we can get our hands on a late first rounder

The early picks will take care of themselves, it’s the late picks I want to see some inspired moves.
Guys like Bazzo, Polson, Warner, Dittmar and Ferres.

 

[theGav56]

I agree with the majority of your assessments, but will respectfully counter your musings regarding Duman and Watson, with a question - which player exhibits enough impressive traits, to be deemed the greatest chance of being a success story? My money is on Watson. Also, in my humble opinion, Conca is worthy of one additional year on the list, purely because he no doubt mentors the younger generation of players, has performed admirable "lock-down" roles on proven opposition small forwards, and if nothing else, acts as a hardened body to use as cannon fodder!

Re using a list spot on Conca (who was a pretty ordinary mentor in yesterday's wafl game), it could be a good season to go in with one or two list vacancies. Many of the young players have had limited exposure and could be invited to train with the club in preseason. We could also add players in the MSD.

 

[eastfreo75]

Re using a list spot on Conca (who was a pretty ordinary mentor in yesterday's wafl game), it could be a good season to go in with one or two list vacancies. Many of the young players have had limited exposure and could be invited to train with the club in preseason. We could also add players in the MSD.

I love the idea of training camp.

A player might just surprise you.

 

[WaywardSonSon]

Re using a list spot on Conca (who was a pretty ordinary mentor in yesterday's wafl game), it could be a good season to go in with one or two list vacancies. Many of the young players have had limited exposure and could be invited to train with the club in preseason. We could also add players in the MSD.

I'm all for introducing new draftees of limitless potential to supersede the pre-existing C grade "list-cloggers", it's just about achieving the perfect balance of experience and youth in your list profile.

 

[WaywardSonSon]

The more I think about it the more I'd like Erasmus with our first round pick.

Erasmus round 1, JVR round 2 and that's a perfect haul.

...and Motlop Round Three...one can only dream!!

 

[theGav56]

...and Motlop Round Three...one can only dream!!

That would be awesome.

Hypothetical: We hold pick 28 in the 2nd round and a bid for Motlop comes at 25. Browne, JVR and Ditmar are still on the board.

Do we match the Motlop bid or pass?

 

[WaywardSonSon]

That would be awesome.

Hypothetical: We hold pick 28 in the 2nd round and a bid for Motlop comes at 25. Browne, JVR and Ditmar are still on the board.

Do we match the Motlop bid or pass?

Oh man, you're killing me there! If Motlop is going to be as impressive as his father was - match it!

 

[Dirty_banchez]

We are going nowhere with our list.

Colyer, Conca, Tucker, Banfield etc... should not be getting games.

Load up on picks for the draft and let's do this rebuild properly.

 

[WaywardSonSon]

We are going nowhere with our list.

Colyer, Conca, Tucker, Banfield etc... should not be getting games.

Load up on picks for the draft and let's do this rebuild properly.

...becuase another four years in the wilderness sounds like something to be enthused by!

 

[go_the_dockers]

...becuase another four years in the wilderness sounds like something to be enthused by!

It is better than 20 years

 

[Wizard]

It’s got me ****ed why Blakley is seen as the “next mid in line” while Crowden who is a far superior option is pigeon holed as a half forward....

 

[Dirty_banchez]

...becuase another four years in the wilderness sounds like something to be enthused by!

We're not winning a premiership with our current list of bumbling idiots.

We should have loaded up on draft picks for 16,17 and 18. Instead we picked up a pack of useless C-graders.

Another 5 years of rebuilding.

 

[WaywardSonSon]

We're not winning a premiership with our current list of bumbling idiots.

We should have loaded up on draft picks for 16,17 and 18. Instead we picked up a pack of useless C-graders.

Another 5 years of rebuilding.

I just want to cry at the thought!

 

[Taylor]

I think we have the core mids. We need to find either an inside/outside player like Jimmy Bartel or an elite outside player similar to Josh Kelly.

We also need some tall speed up forward and the goals out the bum ability ground ball players, you know like Matera and McCarthy who could snap a goal in a tenth of a second from the third row.

Add in some young marking talls and we are good to go in my opinion.

 

[dont bowl there]

I think we have the core mids. We need to find either an inside/outside player like Jimmy Bartel or an elite outside player similar to Josh Kelly.

We also need some tall speed up forward and the goals out the bum ability ground ball players, you know like Matera and McCarthy who could snap a goal in a tenth of a second from the third row.

Add in some young marking talls and we are good to go in my opinion.

Haha that it?