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T2B_ said:
I understand he probably won't survive, it might even be fair enough.

But geez the vitriol on here towards him, and almost hoping we get smashed just to see him go. Not a great look for some.
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It's pathetic really, and it's just not the vitriol shown towards Teague, it's shown towards anything to do with the Club.
 

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forever blue 1 said:
Walsh needs to be captain next year. The other 2 step down, if they don’t like it, let’s do a trade.
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No.
Enough messiahing for pete's sake.
He can wait his turn and earn it.
Weiters if we have a change.
Strong Captain material and speaks well in the media.
 
jezza25 said:
Would it help if we had a fit McKay, McGovern, C Curnow, Docherty, Marchbank, Pittonet, arguably Casboult, Cuningham. ?
I understand and acknowledge Teagues shortcomings but even half of those mentioned above would surely help his cause.
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Explain our performance v collingwood in r2 when we had the bulk of the above available.

Explain our performances v Adelaide and Collingwood in 2020 when we had the bulk of those available.

Essendon is missing arguably their best defender Hurley and key midfield recruit Shiel, and projected to be a cellar dweller, yet ahead of us in 21. Explain that.

All teams have injuries, good teams with smart coaches find ways to win, engineer game plans to get through.

Teague pre game, said we didnt plan for the standing on the mark rule....

I mean really. Thats basic coaching.
All 18 teams play by the same rules and notified of them at same time.

Gross incompetence



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Typical Carlton hype we are building be patient .
When was the last time a player was dragged and made to sit on the bench then dropped and not put back into the firsts until he showed something .
The messaging from the coaches and MC shows that older players have different rules and standards applied .
All the talk is about our young players not being developed and I agree.
But when you have senior players setting examples on the field eg not chasing ,side stepping ,not tacking ,kicking banana kicks at goal whilst being in front then you have a free for all which anything goes without any repercussions , yet we expect young players to learn from these guys .
The main issues that stick in my claw
COACHING
MC
Fischer not learning or refusing to kick on his right cost us 2 goals yesterday
Players kicking banana kicks whilst right in front of goal , screams no confidence , why
Picking players who can’t kick, Cottrel
SPS not being able to kick goals from 40 m out then laughing
Is it just me or would barassi or parko had sent a runner out there to drag him then give him piece of there mind
I know be patient
Get the back of house sorted
 
Oh and waiting around for Curnow and Marchbank as our saviours....

No guarantees of anything there. We need to be better than that. We gave been here before waiting around for injured stars to come good and have the "on paper best22" available


Fact is good teams, with good system and buy in, find ways to win inspite of who is missing. West Coast 2018 missed NicNat, Sheppard, Mackenzie and Gaff. All best 22. They found a way.

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jezza25 said:
Would it help if we had a fit McKay, McGovern, C Curnow, Docherty, Marchbank, Pittonet, arguably Casboult, Cuningham. ?
I understand and acknowledge Teagues shortcomings but even half of those mentioned above would surely help his cause.
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we were categorically smacked in the middle and those identified players (majority forwards) would have had no impact on the result in the middle. North bully us and they have done so for several games.
 
jezza25 said:
Would it help if we had a fit McKay, McGovern, C Curnow, Docherty, Marchbank, Pittonet, arguably Casboult, Cuningham. ?
I understand and acknowledge Teagues shortcomings but even half of those mentioned above would surely help his cause.
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No excuses for yesterday against the bottom side, at least play with some passion & intensity with a slim finals chance still there.
 
jezza25 said:
Would it help if we had a fit McKay, McGovern, C Curnow, Docherty, Marchbank, Pittonet, arguably Casboult, Cuningham. ?
I understand and acknowledge Teagues shortcomings but even half of those mentioned above would surely help his cause.
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Not when North can stroll out of defence, under no pressure, take it up the other end and score with ease.

There was zero pressure applied in the middle of the ground from our guys, our defence didn’t stand a chance.
 
jpfalvo said:
Explain our performance v collingwood in r2 when we had the bulk of the above available.

Explain our performances v Adelaide and Collingwood in 2020 when we had the bulk of those available.

Essendon is missing arguably their best defender Hurley and key midfield recruit Shiel, and projected to be a cellar dweller, yet ahead of us in 21. Explain that.

All teams have injuries, good teams with smart coaches find ways to win, engineer game plans to get through.

Teague pre game, said we didnt plan for the standing on the mark rule....

I mean really. Thats basic coaching.
All 18 teams play by the same rules and notified of them at same time.

Gross incompetence



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Nothing to explain.
it was a question !
 

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Anyone that doesn’t think it’s Teague and the coaching staff are delusional. He’s had two and a half years at the helm to create a system and structure that works and look at where we are. We got belted by the bottom side and to be fair we really haven’t looked like a good side all year. Our wins come from a good quarter and a half, what good side relies on one good quarter to get them a win consistently? None. He has to go and so do a fair whack of the back of house staff, ****ing pathetic and anyone protecting the club is as dumb as the staff we have running the show. Every side has injuries we aren’t the first and we won’t be the last but using that as an excuse is shocking, that’s my rant over.
 
koutaaa said:
We need an alpha coach. Someone who demands respect and knows how to get the best out of the team.... I’d love to see brad Scott
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We Need the right coach who is competent at his trade, this 'Alpha' BS has nothing to do with anything. I would have liked to see Scott at the time Teague was appointed, I thought he had the right amount of experience, had done pretty well with a not great list at North and wasn't over cooked.
 
Madblue said:
Like Ratts, Malthouse, Bolton ???
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If you think Bolton and Ratts are alpha males I feel for you.. Malthouse was arrogant and in it for the wrong reasons....

Brad Scott is a perfect example of alpha male. Hard at it, demands respect but has he players backs 💯
We need this type of coach who’s is well rounded and gets the best out of the players
 
I think we also need to engage a leading teams type company to improve our culture and fix why we are so fragile.

Hawthorn credited them to hugely helping contribute to their success. They still engage in leading teams, Clarko has mentioned them multiple times in the last few weeks when discussing the handover to Mitchell and how they will manage it
 
I refuse to listen to his press conferences now - same dribble dribble … non of the comments posted here from his presser yesterday are a surprise. He’s a terrible communicator to the press has been from the start and that means he’s a terrible communicator internally. Because you’re either a component communicator or you’re not.

Part of being an AFL coach is being an exceptional communicator both internally and externally to all stakeholders - players, staff, sponsors, media, supporters - Teague is the worst in the AFL at this part of the job by a mile! Name me one coach who’s a worse communicator in the media in the whole comp? There isn’t one…. He’s the worst by a long way.

Another one is tactically you need to be all over it …. Name me another coach who’s team concedes as many 5 goal run ons as this guy without having the ability to stem the flow at all. ?

he’s not up to it - the tail wagged the dog to get him the job. Bad move - time to move on.
 

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ArseClown said:
Can't see Clarkson leaving Hawthorn unless they give him the boot. He's a stubborn bugger.

I'd be happy with any of Pyke, Scott or Lyon. No more unproven nice guys.
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My preference, if we are looking for a new coach, would be Scott, followed by Pyke, not keen on either Lyon or Clarkson and definitely not another rookie coach.
 

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