Strategy 2021 Trade Hypotheticals

Lore · Oct 11, 2021

Time to vote!

Please vote in the poll above. Anyone can vote, but if you have entered you may not vote for yourself.

Votes close at the end of trade period (7.30pm AEDT on Wednesday).

No future picks or free agency compo nonsense, but something for everyone to complain about.

Team	Out	In
Adelaide	Strachan, Talia, 23	Stevens, West
Brisbane	Mathieson, Smith, 15, 47, 52	Hopper
Carlton	SPS, Fisher, Weitering, 6	Cerra, Tucker, 1, 38
Collingwood	Maynard, Lynch	Mathieson, Weiderman, 28, 48, 52
Essendon	11, 48	Battle, 23
Fremantle	Cerra, Tucker	SPS, 6, 24
Geelong	Clark, Narkle	Brander, Talia, Lynch
Gold Coast	22	CCJ
GWS	Hopper, 49	11, 17
Hawthorn	24	Fisher, 40
Melbourne	Weideman	Wallis
North Melbourne	Tarrant, 1, 38	Weitering, 26
Port Adelaide	17	Dawson
Richmond	CCJ, 26, 28, 40	Lipinski, Narkle, 15
St. Kilda	Battle	Smith, 32
Sydney	Dawson, Stevens, 32	14, 22
West Coast	Brander, 29, 36	Clark, Maynard
Western Dogs	Lipinski, West, Wallis, 14	Strachan, Tarrant, 29, 36, 47, 49

Team	Out	In
Adelaide	Strachan, 37	Stephens
Brisbane	15, 18	12, Future 2nd (Fre), Future 2nd (Port)
Carlton	6, 25, Fisher	Cerra, 49
Collingwood	Lynch	46
Essendon	Shiel, Future 1st	20, Dunkley
Fremantle	Cerra, Schultz, Future 2nd	6, Future 1st (Mel), Fisher
Geelong	Clark, Narkle, 35	Brander, Ceglar, 25
Gold Coast	22, 43	Ladhams + 31
GWS	2, 13	1, 26
Hawthorn	24, Ceglar	Lynch, Schultz
Melbourne	Future 1st, Weideman	15, 43
North Melbourne	1, 20	2, 13, Weideman
Port Adelaide	Future 2nd, Ladhams	Shiel
Richmond	26	37, Narkle
St. Kilda	Battle, 46	24
Sydney	Stephens, 12, 31	18, 22, Lipinski
West Coast	Brander, 29, 36, 49	14, Clark
Western Bulldogs	14, Lipinski, Dunkley	Strachan, 29, 35, 36, Future 1st (Ess)

Team	In	Out
Adelaide	Tom Hutchesson	Tom Doedee
Brisbane	Zach Sproule	Harris Andrews
Carlton	Cam Fleeton	Jacob Weitering
Collingwood	Shane Mumford	Brodie Grundy
Essendon	Sam J. Reid	Andrew McGrath
Fremantle	Stephen Congilio (paying full contract)	Caleb Serong & [PLAYERCARD]Andrew Brayshaw[/PLAYERCARD] (also paying full contract)
Geelong	Jake Stein	Tom Stewart
Gold Coast	Kieran Briggs	Ben King
GWS	Tom Doedee, [PLAYERCARD]Harris Andrews[/PLAYERCARD], [PLAYERCARD]Jacob Weitering[/PLAYERCARD], [PLAYERCARD]Brodie Grundy[/PLAYERCARD], [PLAYERCARD]Andrew McGrath[/PLAYERCARD], [PLAYERCARD]Caleb Serong[/PLAYERCARD] (paying 0 salary), Tom Stewart, Ben King, Will Day, [PLAYERCARD]Luke Jackson[/PLAYERCARD], [PLAYERCARD]Tarryn Thomas[/PLAYERCARD], [PLAYERCARD]Zak Butters[/PLAYERCARD], Noah Balta, Braeden Campbell, Errol Gulden, Max King, [PLAYERCARD]Marcus Bontempelli[/PLAYERCARD], Elliot Yeo	Tom Hutchesson, Zach Sproule, Cam Fleeton, [PLAYERCARD]Shane Mumford[/PLAYERCARD], Sam Reid, [PLAYERCARD]Stephen Coniglio[/PLAYERCARD], Jake Stein, Kieran Briggs, [PLAYERCARD]Lachlan Keeffe[/PLAYERCARD], [PLAYERCARD]Braydon Preuss[/PLAYERCARD], Matt Buntine, Jacob Wehr, Nick Shipley, [PLAYERCARD]Daniel Lloyd[/PLAYERCARD], [PLAYERCARD]Jeremy Finlayson[/PLAYERCARD], Will Shaw, Matt De Boer
Hawthorn	Lachlan Keefe	Will Day
Melbourne	Braydon Preuss	Luke Jackson
North Melbourne	Matt Buntine	Tarryn Thomas
Port Adelaide	Jacob Wehr	Zak Butters
Richmond	Nick Shipley	Noah Balta
Sydney	Daniel Lloyd	Braeden Campbell & Errol Gulden
St Kilda	Jeremy Finlayson	Max King
Western Bulldogs	Will Shaw	Marcus Bontempelli
West Coast Eagles	Matt De Boer	Elliot Yeo

Adelaide
Out: Riley Thilthorpe, In: [PLAYERCARD]Jaidyn Stephenson[/PLAYERCARD]

Brisbane
Out: [PLAYERCARD]Hugh McCluggage[/PLAYERCARD], In: Jamarra Ugle-Hagan

Carlton
Out: [PLAYERCARD]Jacob Weitering[/PLAYERCARD], In: Adam Cerra

Collingwod
Out: [PLAYERCARD]Brodie Grundy[/PLAYERCARD], In: [PLAYERCARD]Jacob Hopper[/PLAYERCARD]

Essendon
Out: [PLAYERCARD]Darcy Parish[/PLAYERCARD], In: Sean Darcy

Fremantle
Out: Sean Darcy, In: [PLAYERCARD]Clayton Oliver[/PLAYERCARD]

Geelong
Out: Mitch Duncan, In: Aliir Aliir

Gold Coast
Out: Matt Rowell, In: [PLAYERCARD]Jacob Weitering[/PLAYERCARD]

GWS
Out: [PLAYERCARD]Jacob Hopper[/PLAYERCARD], In: [PLAYERCARD]Tom McCartin[/PLAYERCARD]

Hawthorn
Out: [PLAYERCARD]Blake Hardwick[/PLAYERCARD], In: Mitch Duncan

Melbourne
Out: [PLAYERCARD]Clayton Oliver[/PLAYERCARD], In: [PLAYERCARD]Brodie Grundy[/PLAYERCARD]

North Melbourne
Out: Jaiydn Stephenson, In: [PLAYERCARD]Blake Hardwick[/PLAYERCARD]

Richmond
Out: [PLAYERCARD]Shai Bolton[/PLAYERCARD], In: Riley Thilthorpe

Port Adelaide
Out: Aliir Aliir, In: [PLAYERCARD]Shai Bolton[/PLAYERCARD]

St Kilda
Out: [PLAYERCARD]Jack Steele[/PLAYERCARD], In: Matt Rowell

Sydney
Out: [PLAYERCARD]Tom McCartin[/PLAYERCARD], In: [PLAYERCARD]Darcy Parish[/PLAYERCARD]

West Coast
Out: [PLAYERCARD]Oscar Allen[/PLAYERCARD], In: [PLAYERCARD]Hugh McCluggage[/PLAYERCARD]

Western Bulldogs
Out: Jamarra Ugle-Hagan, In: [PLAYERCARD]Jack Steele[/PLAYERCARD]

Club	In	Out
Ade	Stephens, Petty, Sparrow	23, 37
Bris	5, 13	14, 18, Neale
Carl	Hewett, Lipinski	25
Coll	26, 28, 40, Rich 2022 3rd	2023 1st
Ess	B.King, Rosas Jnr, 25	11, 48, 54, 2022 1st
Frem	Neale, 22	Cerra
Geel	Brander	Clarke
GCS	Coleman-Jones, Weideman, Gunston, 14, 18, 21, Ess 2021 1st	5, 19, 22, King, Brodie, Rankine, Rosas Jnr
GWS	MFC 2022 1st, 23	13
Haw	11, Brodie	Gunston, 21
Kang	Billings, StK 2022 2nd	20, 2022 2nd
Melb	Cerra	Weideman, Petty, Sparrow, 2022 1st
Port	Rankine	17
Rich	19, Coll 2023 1st	Coleman-Jones, 2022 3rd
StK	20, Kang 2022 2nd	Billings, 2022 2nd
Syd	48, 37	Stephens, Hewett
WCE	Clarke	Brander
WBD	54	Lipinski

Brisbane IN: [PLAYERCARD]Darcy Cameron[/PLAYERCARD] + Pick 6 OUT: [PLAYERCARD]Lachie Neale[/PLAYERCARD]
Fremantle IN: [PLAYERCARD]Lachie Neale[/PLAYERCARD] OUT: Adam Cerra
Carlton IN: Adam Cerra OUT: [PLAYERCARD]Sam Petrevski-Seton[/PLAYERCARD] + Pick 6
St Kilda IN: [PLAYERCARD]Sam Petrevski-Seton[/PLAYERCARD] OUT: [PLAYERCARD]Luke Dunstan[/PLAYERCARD]
Melbourne IN: [PLAYERCARD]Luke Dunstan[/PLAYERCARD] OUT: [PLAYERCARD]Sam Weideman[/PLAYERCARD]
Richmond IN: [PLAYERCARD]Sam Weideman[/PLAYERCARD] OUT: [PLAYERCARD]Callum Coleman-Jones[/PLAYERCARD]
Gold Coast IN: [PLAYERCARD]Callum Coleman-Jones[/PLAYERCARD] OUT: [PLAYERCARD]Jordan Murdoch[/PLAYERCARD]
Port Adelaide IN: [PLAYERCARD]Jordan Murdoch[/PLAYERCARD] OUT: [PLAYERCARD]Riley Bonner[/PLAYERCARD]
Geelong IN: [PLAYERCARD]Riley Bonner[/PLAYERCARD] OUT: [PLAYERCARD]Quinton Narkle[/PLAYERCARD]
West Coast IN: [PLAYERCARD]Quinton Narkle[/PLAYERCARD] OUT: [PLAYERCARD]Jarrod Brander[/PLAYERCARD]
Hawthorn IN: [PLAYERCARD]Jarrod Brander[/PLAYERCARD] OUT: [PLAYERCARD]Jack Gunston[/PLAYERCARD]
GWS IN: [PLAYERCARD]Jack Gunston[/PLAYERCARD] OUT: [PLAYERCARD]Jacob Hopper[/PLAYERCARD]
North Melbourne IN: [PLAYERCARD]Jacob Hopper[/PLAYERCARD] OUT: [PLAYERCARD]Jared Polec[/PLAYERCARD]
Essendon IN: [PLAYERCARD]Jared Polec[/PLAYERCARD] OUT: Irving Mosquito
Western Bulldogs IN: Irving Mosquito OUT: Pattrick Lipinski
Sydney IN: Pattrick Lipinski OUT: [PLAYERCARD]Dylan Stephens[/PLAYERCARD]
Adelaide IN: [PLAYERCARD]Dylan Stephens[/PLAYERCARD] OUT: Jake Kelly
Collingwood IN: Jake Kelly OUT: [PLAYERCARD]Darcy Cameron[/PLAYERCARD]

Ok here is my effort:
A: IN: H Greenwood, OUT B Keays
B: IN: B Keays, OUT: J Lyons
C: IN: Z Tuohy, OUT: Z Williams
Coll: IN: J Stephenson, OUT: J Roughead
E: IN: T Colyer, OUT: N Hind
F: IN: M De Boer, OUT: T Colyer
G: IN: N Vardy, OUT: Z. Tuohy
GC: IN: J Lyons, OUT: H Greenwood
GWS: IN: Z Williams, OUT: M De Boer
H: IN: R Burton, OUT: S Frost
M: IN: S Frost, OUT: B Brown
NM: IN: B Brown, OUT: J Stephenson
PP: IN: P Ryder, OUT: R Burton
R: IN: S Lloyd, OUT: T Nankervis
SK: IN: N Hind, OUT: P Ryder
S: IN: T Nankervis, OUT: T Hickey
WB: IN: J Roughead, OUT: S Lloyd
wc: IN: T Hickey, OUT: N Vardy.

There will be draft picks exchanged & I know 2 of the players have announced retirements, but I'm backing their destination clubs can convince them to go on.
I can't see this not happening. (no

)

FREE AGENCY
[PLAYERCARD]Daniel Talia[/PLAYERCARD] to Geelong
Tom Lynch to North Melbourne
Jake Kelly to Essendon(Adelaide get Pick 38)
[PLAYERCARD]Levi Casboult[/PLAYERCARD] to Gold Coast Suns(Carlton get Pick 74)
Mitch Wallis to North Melbourne(Bulldogs Get Pick 39)
George Hewitt to Carlton(Swans get Pick 40)

Essendon: Malcolm Rosas + Chol + Pick 69
Gold Coast Suns: Coleman-Jones + Zaka + 2022 4th Rdr + Pick 47
Richmond: Sam Durham + Pick 46 + Pick 54

Richmond: Tom Mitchell + Pick 59
Hawthorn: Pick 16 + Pick 46

Richmond: Pick 44
Collingwood: Josh Caddy

Collingwood: Pick 3
Gold Coast Suns: [PLAYERCARD]Jordan De Goey[/PLAYERCARD] + Pick 48

Collingwood: [PLAYERCARD]Patrick Lipinski[/PLAYERCARD] + H2022 3rdR
Western Bulldogs: [PLAYERCARD]Chad Wingard[/PLAYERCARD] + C2022 3rdR
Hawthorn: Mason Cox + W2002 3rdR

Carlton: Adam Cerra + Pick 32
Fremantle: Pick 6 + SPS + Jordan Clarke
Geelong: Paddy Dow + 2022 3rdR(or Pick 27)

Geelong: Pick 36
West Coast Eagles: [PLAYERCARD]Quinton Narkle[/PLAYERCARD]

Brisbane Lions: [PLAYERCARD]Jack Gunston[/PLAYERCARD]
Hawthorn: 2022 2ndR or 3rdR

Sydney Swans: Pick 38
Adelaide: Dylan Stephenson

Adelaide: [PLAYERCARD]Luke Dunstan[/PLAYERCARD]
St Kilda: 2022 4thR

If I think of more later I'll add them but here is my crack for the badge!!

First draft, let me know what you disagree with...

Mitchell for Pick 7
Future 1st (Haw) for Future 1st (NM)
O'Brien + Pick 24 for Pick 19 + 55
Pick 21 + Future 2nd(Haw) for Pick 13 + Cogs
Pick 13 for Pick 23 + Future 2nd(Adl)
Pick 23 + 55 for Brander + 29
Gunston + Pick 29 + 62 for Pick 18 + 47 + 57
Future 3rd(Haw) for Future 3rd(Carl)
Pick 5 for Cerra
Hanrahan + 47 for Pick 35 + 53
Pick 19 + 57 for Battle + 46
Howe + 53 for Pick 31 + 67
Future 4th(Haw) for Future 4th(Ess)
Pick 31 + 56 for Lynch + 41
Pick 35 + 41 + 46 + Ceglar for pick 15 + 70
Pick 15 + 70 for Pick 17 + 60
Pick 17 + 60 for Petty + 42

ADEL: [PLAYERCARD]Brayden Maynard[/PLAYERCARD] for Pick 4 and ROB, Ben Keays and James Rowe.
BRIS: 47, 51, 57, 73 and [PLAYERCARD]Brandon Starcevich[/PLAYERCARD] for 2022 first rounder.
CARL: Adam Cerra for Sam Walsh and Pick 6.
COLL: [PLAYERCARD]Christian Petracca[/PLAYERCARD] for [PLAYERCARD]Darcy Moore[/PLAYERCARD], [PLAYERCARD]Brayden Maynard[/PLAYERCARD], [PLAYERCARD]Taylor Adams[/PLAYERCARD] and a future third.
ESS: Mason Cox for [PLAYERCARD]Jake Stringer[/PLAYERCARD] and Pick 11
FRE: [PLAYERCARD]Lochie O'Brien[/PLAYERCARD] and a future fifth rounder for Adam Cerra
GEE: [PLAYERCARD]Shaun Burgoyne[/PLAYERCARD], Pick 21, 24 for Jack Henry, Queintin Narkle, [PLAYERCARD]Charlie Constable[/PLAYERCARD] and Pick 30, 32, 34.
GC: Sampson Ryan for Matt Rowell
GWS: 14, 18, 47, 51, 57, 73, and [PLAYERCARD]Lachie Neale[/PLAYERCARD] for Tom Green, [PLAYERCARD]Shane Mumford[/PLAYERCARD], [PLAYERCARD]Stephen Coniglio[/PLAYERCARD], Bobby Hill, Pick 2, 1st Rounder 2022, Nick Haynes and [PLAYERCARD]Jeremy Finlayson[/PLAYERCARD].
HAW: Mitchell for Pick 10
MELB: Tom Hickey for Max Gawn.
NM: Pick 1 for 3, 19, 22 and [PLAYERCARD]Hugh Greenwood[/PLAYERCARD].
PA: Brad Crouch for [PLAYERCARD]Riley Bonner[/PLAYERCARD] and 2023 2nd.
STK: Pick 67 for [PLAYERCARD]Luke Dunstan[/PLAYERCARD]
SYD: Jack Madgen for [PLAYERCARD]Dylan Stephens[/PLAYERCARD], Pick 31.
WB: [PLAYERCARD]Adam Treloar[/PLAYERCARD] for Pick 14 and a future second.
WC: [PLAYERCARD]Sam Weideman[/PLAYERCARD] for Tim Kelly

Adelaide In: Dawson Out: Pick 23 +future second

Brisbane In: Weideman Out: [PLAYERCARD]Archie Smith[/PLAYERCARD], Pick 57

Carlton In: Cerra Out: Pick 6 +25

Collingwood In: Pick 2, 25, 64 Future second (Port) Lipinski Out: Grundy, Sidebottom, Cox

Essendon In: Stephens Out: Future second

Fremantle In: Jordan Clarke, Coniglio, Pick 6 Out: Cerra, pick 27, future second

Geelong In: Pick 27 Out: Jordan Clarke, Pick 52

Gold Coast In: Sidebottom, Pick 49 Out: Pick 43, Brodie

GWS In: Grundy, Pick 52, 56, future second (freo) Out: Coniglio, Pick 2, Finlayson, Riccardi

Hawthorn In: Pick 16 Out: Tom Mitchell, Pick 56

Melbourne In: Pick 46 + 57 Out: Weideman

North Melbourne In: Coleman-Jones, Pick 44 Out: Pick 20

Port Adelaide In: Finlayson, Tom Mitchell Out: Future second, Pick 16

Richmond In: Pick 20 Out: Coleman-Jones, Pick 44

St Kilda In: Brander, Cox Out: 46, 64

Sydney In: Pick 23 + future second (Adelaide) , future 2nd (Ess) Out: Dawson, Stephens

West Coast In: Riccardi, Brodie Out: Brander, Pick 49

Western Bulldogs In: 43 Out: Lipinski

OK, this was very tough!!
Tried to make it realistic as possible with what teams are actually trying to do (Coll and WB getting points this year, STK wanting picks this year, GC happy to move out of this years draft a bit), but also had to add some players that might not move, like Hunt.

Adel
In: Dawson, 64
Out: 23, future 2nd, 59

Brisbane
In: Fort, Cox
Out: 47, 51, 57

Carlton
In: Cerra
Out: 6, SSP

Collingwood
In: 43, 47, 51, Lipinski
Out: Cox, future 2nd, future 3rd

Essendon
In: McPherson, Long
Out: Future 2nd, future 3rd

Fremantle
In: 6, Clark, 55
Out: Cerra, 27

Geelong
In: 27, 54, future 3rd (Coll)
Out: Clark, Fort

Gold Coast
In: future 2nd (Adel), future 3rd (WC), future 2nd (ESS), future 3rd (WB)
Out: Brodie, McPherson, 22, 43, 55

GWS
In: Hartlett, future 3rd (Ess)
Out: Riccardi, 68

Hawthorn
In: future 2nd (STK)
Out: O'Brien

Melbourne
In: 38, 44
Out: Hunt, 54

North Melbourne
In: Riccardi, Coleman-Jones
Out: 38, future 3rd

Port Adelaide
In: O'Brien, future 3rd (NM), 35
Out: Ladhams, Hartlett, 60

Richmond
In: Hunt, 67
Out: Coleman-Jones, 44

St Kilda
In: 22, 57, 59
Out: Long, future 2nd, 64

Sydney
In: 23, future 2nd (Coll)
Out: Dawson, 67

West Coast
In: Brodie, SSP, 60, 68
Out: Brander, 35, 49, future 3rd

Western Bulldogs
In: Ladhams, 49
Out: Lipinski, future 3rd

Team	Out	In
Adelaide (4,23,37,59,63)	23 (to ML via WB) & 37 (to WB)	Jordan Dawson (from SYD)
Brisbane (14,18,47,51,57,73)	14, 18 & 51 (to STK)	9 (from STK) & 22 (from GCS via STK)
Carlton (6,25,61)	6 (to FRE), Paddy Dow (to HAW)	Adam Cerra (from FRE), Lewis Young (from WB), 45 (from COLL)
Collingwood (36,39,41,45)	39 (to FRE via CARL), 45 (to CARL) Max Lynch (to GEE)	32, 34 & Nathan Kreuger (from GEE)
Essendon (11,48,53)	48 (to STK)	Jack Lonie (from STK)
Fremantle (8,27)	Adam Cerra (to CARL)	6 (from CARL), 39 (from COLL via CARL)
Geelong (30,32,34,52)	32, 34 & Nathan Kreuger (to COLL)	24 (from HAW via COLL via CARL), Max Lynch (from COLL) future 4th rd pick (from COLL)
Gold Coast (3,19,22,43,55,58,66)	22 (to BN via STK)	Josh Battle (from STK)
GWS (2,13,50,68)	2 (to RIC)	7, 15 (from RIC) & 38 (from NM via RIC)
Hawthorn (5,21,24,56,62)	24 (to GEE via COLL via CARL)	Paddy Dow (from CARL)
Melbourne (33,42,54)	33 & 42 (to WB)	23 (from ADL via WB)
North Melbourne (1,20,38,69)	38 (to GWS via RIC)	Callum Coleman-Jones (from RIC)
Port Adelaide (16,60,70,71)	Peter Ladhams & 60 (to RIC)	40 & 44 (from RIC)
Richmond (7,15,26,28,40,44)	7 & 15 (to GWS), 40 & 44 (to Port)	2 (from GWS), [PLAYERCARD]Peter Ladhams[/PLAYERCARD] & 60 (from Port)
St. Kilda (9,46,64)	9 (to BN), Jack Lonie (to ESS)	14, 18 & 51 (from BN), 48 (from ESS)
Sydney (12,31,67)	Jordan Dawson (to ADL)	17 (from WB via ADL)
West Coast (10,29,35,49,65)	49 (to WB via CARL)	Sam Petrevski-Seton (from CARL)
Western Bulldogs (17,72)	17 (to SYD via ADL), Lewis Young (to CARL)	37 (from ADL) 33 & 42 (from ML via ADL), 49 (from WCE via CARL)

adel	future 3rd (ess), dawson, 40	23, 44, future 2nd, future 3rd
bris	8, 27, fort	14, 18, 50, 60
carl	cerra, future 3rd (freo), 41	6, future second, petrevski-seton
coll	lipinski, 26, future 3rd (adel)	22, 43,lynch
ess	22, 59, future 4th (coll), future 4th (freo)	51, 56, future 3rd, future 2nd
freo	2, 14, clarke, 50, brodie, future 3rd (GWS)	cerra, future 3rd, future 4th, 8, 27, future 2nd
geel	18, 60, brander	clarke, fort, 41
gws	6, future 2nd (freo), future 2nd (carl)	2, future 3rd
gold	7, 28, future 2nd (ess), future 2nd (dogs), future second (adel)	brodie,3, 19, 61
haw	17, lynch	ceglar, 59, 24
melb	24, 75	33,45
north	coleman-jones, 67	tarrant, 40, xerri
port	31	ladhams
rich	tarrant, 3, 19, 23, 61	coleman-jones, 7, 15, 26, 28
saints	xerri	67
syd	ladhams, 15	31, dawson
eagles	petrevski-seton	brander
dogs	ceglar, 33, 43, 44, 45, 51, 56	lipinski, 17, 75, future 2nd

It's the leading goal kicker carousel! Every club's leading scorer moves to the next club:

Adelaide: Out: Walker In: Bruce
Brisbane: Out: Cameron In: Walker
Carlton: Out: Mackay In: Cameron
Essendon: Out: Stringer In: Mackay
Fremantle: Out: Taberner In: Stringer
Geelong: Out: Hawkins In: Taberner
Gold Coast: Out: King In: Hawkins
GWS: Out: Greene In: King
Hawthorn: Out: Breust In: Greene
Melbourne: Out: Fritsch In: Breust
North Melbourne: Out: Larkey In: Fritsch
Port Adelaide: Out: Dixon In: Larkey
Richmond: Out: Riewolt In: Dixon
St Kilda: Out: King In: Riewolt
Sydney: Out: Franklin In: King
West Coast: Out: Darling In: Franklin
Western Bulldogs: Out: Bruce In: Darling

Some surprisingly even trades there.

Team	Out	In
Adelaide (4,33,59,75)	Melb Fut 1st	Dawson
Brisbane (14,18,47,51,57,73)	47,51	Fort,52
Carlton (6,25,61)	25,61	28,49,Bulldogs Future 3rd
Collingwood (27,36,39,41,45)	Max Lynch,27,36,39	Lipinski,43,44,47,55,66
Essendon (11,48,53)	Ess Future 2nd	Bobby Hill
Fremantle (8,19,22,62,69)	Lobb,22,62	Clark, GWS Future 2nd
Geelong (30,32,34,52)	Clark,34,52	Ceglar,22,51,62
Gold Coast (3,19,22,43,55,58,66)	43,55,58,66	27
GWS (2,13,50,68)	Bobby Hill, GWS Future 2nd	Lobb,Ess Future 2nd
Hawthorn (5,21,24,56,62)	Ceglar	Max Lynch,58
Melbourne (17,37,49,54)	37,49,54	23
North Melbourne (1,20,42,47,69)	Xerri,42,69	Long, Port Fut 3rd
Port Adelaide (16,60,70,71)	Ladhams, Powell-Pepper, Port Future 3rd	Sydney Fut 1st,29,42,69
Richmond (7,15,26,28,38,40,44)	28,38	25
St. Kilda (9,62,66)	Long	Xerri,Port Future 3rd
Sydney (12,31,67)	Dawson, Sydney Fut 1st	Ladhams,Melb Fut 1st
West Coast (10,29,35,49,65)	29	Powell-Pepper
Western Bulldogs (23,44,45,52)	Lipinski,23, Bulldogs Future 3rd	36,37,38,39,54,61

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EBERT THE KING · Sep 3, 2021

Membling said:
GC would be mental to put up pick 3 for De Goey. 100% not what GC need at the club

Agreed, but they will.

They need eyeballs on the club, and he brings that.

Not what they need specifically, but they need heaps.

Snuffaluphagus · Sep 3, 2021

EBERT THE KING said:
So in this situation it is the best way to value a trade. As the pies are the team in the league that needs points the most.

The best thing to do when trying to group up picks to move higher is apply about a 30% loading to the points.

For example, from the picks mentioned before

This is a 26% loading on point to move up.

In AFL world, this is highly influenced by the motivations of the teams trading (ie for points, or because someone REALLY wants to move up) but 25-30% loading is a good rule of thumb

EBERT THE KING · Sep 3, 2021

Snuffaluphagus said:
The best thing to do when trying to group up picks to move higher is apply about a 30% loading to the points.

For example, from the picks mentioned before
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This is a 26% loading on point to move up.

In AFL world, this is highly influenced by the motivations of the teams trading (ie for points, or because someone REALLY wants to move up) but 25-30% loading is a good rule of thumb

This makes sense.

In the scenario i outlined, Collingwood are absolutely motivated to:

1. Get points to get out of deficit
2. Reduce salary cap pressures
3. Set themselves up for a big crack at the 2022 draft

I'm not sure they will need a 30% buffer when most of their points are going for one player.

eth-dog · Sep 3, 2021

Collingwood can find more points very easily. I'm not sure about the respective circumstances of how many each will draft but they could:

Trade 33 to Richmond for 40 and 44
Trade 39 to Essendon for 48 and 54
On trade 40 and 41 to Gold Coast for 43, 55, 58 and 66

They gain nearly 300 points from those three deals.

Northernsoul74 · Sep 3, 2021

eth-dog said:
Collingwood can find more points very easily. I'm not sure about the respective circumstances of how many each will draft but they could:

Trade 33 to Richmond for 40 and 44
Trade 39 to Essendon for 48 and 54
On trade 40 and 41 to Gold Coast for 43, 55, 58 and 66

They gain nearly 300 points from those three deals.

A lot depends on how many picks can be used. I assumed they’d gone back to picks for list places and last year was an anomaly. But I’m hearing it’s like last year which is a huge bonus for the Pies and Dogs if true.
Can anyone confirm?

Rob R · Sep 3, 2021

EBERT THE KING said:
Gold Coast get: [PLAYERCARD]Jordan De Goey[/PLAYERCARD]
Gold Coast Lose: Pick 3

Collingwood get: Pick 26 (Richmond), Richmond 2022 First round pick.
Collingwood lose: [PLAYERCARD]Jordan De Goey[/PLAYERCARD]

Richmond Get: Pick 3
Richmond lose: Pick 26, Richmond 2022 First round pick

Gold Coast get their big dog, Pies get out of deficit and add another first round pick next year to go with what could be a very high pick of their own, and Richmond get Finn Callaghan to take over from Cotch.

Richmond would enter the draft with 3,7,16. An unbelievable haul coming off a dynasty.

GC getting ripped off. Pies isnt too bad. Richmond doing very very well.

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ferrisb · Sep 3, 2021

firsttimeposter said:
Darcy moore and future 2nd rd pick for gold coast for pick 3, 43,53.

Trade pick 3 and de goey to North for pick 1 and their future 2nd

Effectively out moore and de goey for pick 1 and points to match the daicos bid at pick 2, yeah, the short term hit is obvious. however the extra points mean their first pick next year doesn't slide a couple of places due to a points deficit. They make room this year in their cap for a free agent this year and maybe next.

LeverPuller · Sep 5, 2021

Two parter:

MEL Give: 52, future 3rd
CARL Give: [PLAYERCARD]Zac Fisher[/PLAYERCARD], future 4th

THEN

Brisbane give: Neale, 14
Brisbane receive: 6, 52

Freo give: Cerra
Freo receive: Neale, 14

Carlton give: 6, 52
Carlton receive: Cerra

Rob R · Sep 5, 2021

LeverPuller said:
Two parter:

MEL Give: 52, future 3rd
CARL Give: [PLAYERCARD]Zac Fisher[/PLAYERCARD], future 4th

THEN

Brisbane give: Neale, 14
Brisbane receive: 6, 52

Freo give: Cerra
Freo receive: Neale, 14

Carlton give: 6, 52
Carlton receive: Cerra

No way on earth does Brisbane do that with Neale under contract and the Lions in the premiership window.

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Blackhawk42 · Sep 5, 2021

Neale to Fremantle

Mitchell to Brisbane

Cerra to Hawthorn

Virgin Dog · Sep 5, 2021

Blackhawk42 said:
Neale to Fremantle

Mitchell to Brisbane

Cerra to Hawthorn

Freo ripped off hard. Hawks get way too good a deal

GoldenMagpie16 · Sep 5, 2021

Gold Coast Give: Pick 22, Pick 43 and Pick 53
Gold Coast Recieve: Max Lynch, [PLAYERCARD]Brayden Sier[/PLAYERCARD] and a 2023 Fourth Rounder.

Collingwood Give: Max Lynch, [PLAYERCARD]Brayden Sier[/PLAYERCARD] and a 2023 Fourth Rounder.
Collingwood Recieve: Pick 22, Pick 43 and Pick 53

Collingwood gets 1430 points for Dacios and Dib. Gold Coast get two potential young guns and a cheeky deathride

SSwans2011 · Sep 6, 2021

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Adelaide
Out: Riley Thilthorpe, In: [PLAYERCARD]Jaidyn Stephenson[/PLAYERCARD]

Brisbane
Out: [PLAYERCARD]Hugh McCluggage[/PLAYERCARD], In: Jamarra Ugle-Hagan

Carlton
Out: [PLAYERCARD]Jacob Weitering[/PLAYERCARD], In: Adam Cerra

Collingwod
Out: [PLAYERCARD]Brodie Grundy[/PLAYERCARD], In: [PLAYERCARD]Jacob Hopper[/PLAYERCARD]

Essendon
Out: [PLAYERCARD]Darcy Parish[/PLAYERCARD], In: [PLAYERCARD]Sean Darcy[/PLAYERCARD]

Fremantle
Out: [PLAYERCARD]Sean Darcy[/PLAYERCARD], In: [PLAYERCARD]Clayton Oliver[/PLAYERCARD]

Geelong
Out: Mitch Duncan, In: [PLAYERCARD]Aliir Aliir[/PLAYERCARD]

Gold Coast
Out: [PLAYERCARD]Matt Rowell[/PLAYERCARD], In: [PLAYERCARD]Jacob Weitering[/PLAYERCARD]

GWS
Out: [PLAYERCARD]Jacob Hopper[/PLAYERCARD], In: [PLAYERCARD]Tom McCartin[/PLAYERCARD]

Hawthorn
Out: [PLAYERCARD]Blake Hardwick[/PLAYERCARD], In: Mitch Duncan

Melbourne
Out: [PLAYERCARD]Clayton Oliver[/PLAYERCARD], In: [PLAYERCARD]Brodie Grundy[/PLAYERCARD]

North Melbourne
Out: Jaiydn Stephenson, In: [PLAYERCARD]Blake Hardwick[/PLAYERCARD]

Richmond
Out: [PLAYERCARD]Shai Bolton[/PLAYERCARD], In: Riley Thilthorpe

Port Adelaide
Out: [PLAYERCARD]Aliir Aliir[/PLAYERCARD], In: [PLAYERCARD]Shai Bolton[/PLAYERCARD]

St Kilda
Out: [PLAYERCARD]Jack Steele[/PLAYERCARD], In: [PLAYERCARD]Matt Rowell[/PLAYERCARD]

Sydney
Out: [PLAYERCARD]Tom McCartin[/PLAYERCARD], In: [PLAYERCARD]Darcy Parish[/PLAYERCARD]

West Coast
Out: [PLAYERCARD]Oscar Allen[/PLAYERCARD], In: [PLAYERCARD]Hugh McCluggage[/PLAYERCARD]

Western Bulldogs
Out: Jamarra Ugle-Hagan, In: [PLAYERCARD]Jack Steele[/PLAYERCARD]

LOZWILDA · Sep 6, 2021

Carlton give pick6 to freo and Kemp to Brisbane for Cerra.
Brisbane give Neil to Freo for pick8.

Freo gain pick6 Neil. lose pick8 and Cerra
Bris gain Kemp, Pick8 lose Neil pick 47.
Carl gain Cerra Pick47. lose Kemp Pick6.

Bris chase Parker free agent.

ItsAllAboutMe · Sep 6, 2021

Brisbane - Freo - Essendon

Brisbane give,
Neale & Pick 18
Get [PLAYERCARD]Dylan Shiel[/PLAYERCARD] & Pick 8

Freo Give
Adam Cerra, Pick 8
Get - [PLAYERCARD]Lachie Neale[/PLAYERCARD] & pick 11

Essendon Give
[PLAYERCARD]Dylan Shiel[/PLAYERCARD] + pick 11
Get - Adam Cerra + pick 18

Prochard123 · Sep 6, 2021

GoldenMagpie16 said:
Gold Coast Give: Pick 22, Pick 43 and Pick 53
Gold Coast Recieve: Max Lynch, Brayden Sier and a 2023 Fourth Rounder.

Collingwood Give: Max Lynch, Brayden Sier and a 2023 Fourth Rounder.
Collingwood Recieve: Pick 22, Pick 43 and Pick 53

Collingwood gets 1430 points for Dacios and Dib. Gold Coast get two potential young guns and a cheeky deathride

I mean I'd definitely do this, I just don't know if GC would.

eth-dog · Sep 6, 2021

ItsAllAboutMe said:
Brisbane - Freo - Essendon

Brisbane give,
Neale & Pick 18
Get Dylan Shiel & Pick 8

Freo Give
Adam Cerra, Pick 8
Get - Lachie Neale & pick 11

Essendon Give
Dylan Shiel + pick 11
Get - Adam Cerra + pick 18

Eh. Cerra is pretty much guaranteed to be Carlton bound. Not overly fussed. And Freo get screwed over in this deal

blueiris · Sep 6, 2021

eth-dog said:
Eh. Cerra is pretty much guaranteed to be Carlton bound. Not overly fussed. And Freo get screwed over in this deal

Lol Brisbane clearly screwed over here Shiel is useless

eth-dog · Sep 6, 2021

blueiris said:
Lol Brisbane clearly screwed over here Shiel is useless

You need to take the rose coloured glasses off. Brisbane get about fair value, Essendon do well and Freo get screwed.

eth-dog · Sep 6, 2021

FWIW I think if a Cerra/Neale deal does eventuate it probably eventuates like:

Brisbane in: Picks 6, 24 and a future 3rd
Brusbane out: [PLAYERCARD]Lachie Neale[/PLAYERCARD] and pick 14

Carlton in: Adam Cerra
Carlton out: Picks 6 and 24

Fremantle in: [PLAYERCARD]Lachie Neale[/PLAYERCARD] and pick 14
Fremantle out: Adam Cerra and a future 3rd

Not perfect but the best I can come up with.

Pure_Ownage · Sep 6, 2021

eth-dog said:
FWIW I think if a Cerra/Neale deal does eventuate it probably eventuates like:

Brisbane in: Picks 6, 24 and a future 3rd
Brusbane out: Lachie Neale and pick 14

Carlton in: Adam Cerra
Carlton out: Picks 6 and 24

Fremantle in: Lachie Neale and pick 14
Fremantle out: Adam Cerra and a future 3rd

Not perfect but the best I can come up with.

Brisbane getting majorly ripped off there.

eth-dog · Sep 6, 2021

Pure_Ownage said:
Brisbane getting majorly ripped off there.

Nah. Not at his age and coming off a serious back injury.

Pure_Ownage · Sep 6, 2021

eth-dog said:
Nah. Not at his age and coming off a serious back injury.

Hes not old. The injury isnt a career threatening one so i dont think its significantly affecting his trade value.

An 8 spot ugrade plus 24 and a future pick that will get swallowed up on a bid match anyway wont be enough for brisbane to trade a brownlow winning mid with 2 years on his contract.

Joao · Sep 6, 2021

SSwans2011 said:
That badge is mine!

Adelaide
Out: Riley Thilthorpe, In: Jaidyn Stephenson

Brisbane
Out: Hugh McCluggage, In: Jamarra Ugle-Hagan

Carlton
Out: Jacob Weitering, In: Adam Cerra

Collingwod
Out: Brodie Grundy, In: Jacob Hopper

Essendon
Out: Darcy Parish, In: Sean Darcy

Fremantle
Out: Sean Darcy, In: Clayton Oliver

Geelong
Out: Mitch Duncan, In: Aliir Aliir

Gold Coast
Out: Matt Rowell, In: Jacob Weitering

GWS
Out: Jacob Hopper, In: Tom McCartin

Hawthorn
Out: Blake Hardwick, In: Mitch Duncan

Melbourne
Out: Clayton Oliver, In: Brodie Grundy

North Melbourne
Out: Jaiydn Stephenson, In: Blake Hardwick

Richmond
Out: Shai Bolton, In: Riley Thilthorpe

Port Adelaide
Out: Aliir Aliir, In: Shai Bolton

St Kilda
Out: Jack Steele, In: Matt Rowell

Sydney
Out: Tom McCartin, In: Darcy Parish

West Coast
Out: Oscar Allen, In: Hugh McCluggage

Western Bulldogs
Out: Jamarra Ugle-Hagan, In: Jack Steele

This... is awful. Well done.

That said I wonder if Sydney and Essendon fans would be that devastated.

eth-dog · Sep 6, 2021

Pure_Ownage said:
Hes not old. The injury isnt a career threatening one so i dont think its significantly affecting his trade value.

An 8 spot ugrade plus 24 and a future pick that will get swallowed up on a bid match anyway wont be enough for brisbane to trade a brownlow winning mid with 2 years on his contract.

That was the point of the future pick...

Maybe they get 18 instead of 14 but that's all I'd be trading from a Freo perspective.

And all back injuries are potentially career ending. Something Freo are well aware of.

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