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Juddernaut08 said:
Bit rich to use Max's 21 yr old stats vs Ben's 19 yr old stats though...
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Fair enough. Here is career to date and I still think it's close.

Max gets more of the ball takes more marks inside f50, double the contested marks, more score involvements.

He does kick fewer goals and more behinds.

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& Current Season to date:
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danster168 said:
Read above. I've told you 2 things that Ben has shown to be better than Max at. Now what is max better than Ben at?
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Contested marking Max is 5th in the competition took 8 last week and has other hauls of 5 and 4 multiple times.

Ben has never taken more than 3 contested marks in a game.

Max averages more possessions, more score involvements, more marks, more marks inside 50, more inside 50s, and more tackles.

He gets up the ground a little more than Ben and takes marks on the wing etc.

Doing ok I think and if Max had kicked a bit straighter this year he would have a similar amount of goals too.
 
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g_TRAIN said:
Contested marking Max is 5th in the competition took 8 last week and has other hauls of 5 and 4 multiple times.

Ben has never taken more than 3 contested marks in a game.

Max averages more possessions, more score involvements, more marks, more marks inside 50, more inside 50s, and more tackles.

He gets up the ground a little more than Ben and takes marks on the wing etc.

Doing ok I think and if Max had kicked a bit straighter this year he would have a similar amount of goals too.
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You can't say IF he kicked straighter. he hasn't. Ben has obviously had bags of goals too. multiple times. so what was your point there?I repeat, Ben has kicked MANY MORE goals than Max. 30% more!
 

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danster168 said:
You can't say IF he kicked straighter. he hasn't. Ben has obviously had bags of goals too. multiple times. so what was your point there?I repeat, Ben has kicked MANY MORE goals than Max. 30% more!
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Your question was what does Max do better than Ben.

All I was doing was answering because it seemed like you were not aware of the differences between the two players and the area's Max is clearly better at.

No one here is disputing that Ben has kicked more goals. You would have to be a moron to dispute hard facts

I wasn't even saying he is better than Ben
 
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g_TRAIN said:
Fair enough. Here is career to date and I still think it's close.

Max gets more of the ball takes more marks inside f50, double the contested marks, more score involvements.

He does kick fewer goals and more behinds.

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& Current Season to date:
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Cheers. Ben still better but I'm genuinely surprised how close it's been.

For all the crap he cops, Max is still a top level prospect.
 
To think we traded out of the first round twice for Lever and May. Damn good trading.
 
1. Sam Walsh
2. Bailey Smith
3. Ben King
4. Max King
5. Zac Butters
6. Jack Lukosius
7. Tarryn Thomas
8. Connor Rozee
9. Xavier Duursma
10. Issac Quaynor
 
All I know is the 2018 draft is one of the more stacked drafts ever. Loaded out the wazoo
 

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port_adelaide_1870 said:
How anyone can still have Rozee over Butters is beyond me. Butters has so much more potential to be one of the best players in the comp
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As godly as Butters was early in the season, he was terrible coming back from injury. Rozee played injured the entire season and still managed to impact most games. I love them both but still have Rozee ahead as a force to be reckoned with in his prime. The guy is still probably 8-10 kgs off the player he will be.
 
Red Black and Blue said:
As godly as Butters was early in the season, he was terrible coming back from injury. Rozee played injured the entire season and still managed to impact most games. I love them both but still have Rozee ahead as a force to be reckoned with in his prime. The guy is still probably 8-10 kgs off the player he will be.
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Obviously you only watched the prelim. Butters was great the end part of the year
 

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port_adelaide_1870 said:
Obviously you only watched the prelim. Butters was great the end part of the year
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Nah. He's top 3 favourite players for mine, I watch him closely ever week. He was serviceable in some games and really bad in others. He had -23 metres game against the Pies.

First 4 games he a minimum of 12 effective disposals. He only did that 3 times in his last eight games. He dropped off considerably.
 
ashep said:
Smith goes top 3 after 2 good games?
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He had a quiet patch mid season but has a few BOG this year including a couple of finals. Torched pies in round 1.

Hopefully he's a big game player. Got good odds on him for the Norm.
 
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Nah. He's top 3 favourite players for mine, I watch him closely ever week. He was serviceable in some games and really bad in others. He had -23 metres game against the Pies.

First 4 games he a minimum of 12 effective disposals. He only did that 3 times in his last eight games. He dropped off considerably.
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Again you clearly don’t watch much port, Butters since returning was top 3 in terms of our scoring involvements, he took a week or two to get back, but no doubt he was 100% not “terrible”.
 
port_adelaide_1870 said:
Again you clearly don’t watch much port, Butters since returning was top 3 in terms of our scoring involvements, he took a week or two to get back, but no doubt he was 100% not “terrible”.
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Averaged 5 after returning, averaged 6.25 before. Remove the Carlton game and he averaged 4.25 over the other seven.

6.25 is top 30 in the comp. 5 is about 120th. 4.25 is about 200th.

It was a massive drop off on paper, let alone that he was way harder at the man and ball before injury.
 
Red Black and Blue said:
Averaged 5 after returning, averaged 6.25 before. Remove the Carlton game and he averaged 4.25 over the other seven.

6.25 is top 30 in the comp. 5 is about 120th. 4.25 is about 200th.

It was a massive drop off on paper, let alone that he was way harder at the man and ball before injury.
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Why remove the Carlton game lol what a stupid argument, if anything you remove his first game back coz he was just starting off and clearly wasn’t gunna be at his best
If you remove the first game (R17) back he averaged 6 per game for the remaining games

again the claim he was “terrible” is just completely wrong. He was top 3 in all our score involvements. His footy IQ is off the charts. It is clear you only watched the prelim
 
Butters is going to be a jet. Are port fans worried about rozee? I think he's talented bur overrated as. Wouldn't be drafted in the top 10 in a redraft
 

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