AFL Grand Final Grand Final 2021 - Melbourne vs Western Bulldogs - Sat, Sept 25 - 5:15pm AWST / 7:15pm AEST

[jathanas]

2021 AFL grand final gambling related discussion goes in this thread.

 

[Pedro]

Who gave Caleb Daniel

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Caleb Daniel

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a Norm Smith vote? How could you give him a vote over Oliver.

That’s the most ineffectual 37 possession game you could ever get. Treloar was actually the Dogs best, got them back into the game.

Was thinking that myself. 26 at half time yet it was Bont and Treloar who were influential. I’ll take 25 from petracca any day over 40 from Daniel

 

[Daicos Torpedo]

Is that what happened last few years or was it just tonight?

No idea. Just my opinion about tonight

 

[Magpie_96]

Who gave Caleb Daniel a Norm Smith vote? How could you give him a vote over Oliver.

That’s the most ineffectual 37 possession game you could ever get. Treloar was actually the Dogs best, got them back into the game.

Treloar played well overall and was good up until mid way through the 3rd but was also a big contributor to why they where smashed in the second half both his positioning at stoppage and front running. Daniel was BOG with his rebound cool head and disposal in the first half the demons let him do as he pleased in setting the doggies up off half back He along with Bont until the 3rd quarter where tied for Norm Smith IMO before there fade out happened at the end of the quarter and for the rest of the second half.

 

[Jafo]

Yeah I turned if off in disgust (eww Richmond!), but it does feel like they're carrying on a bit doesn't it. 2010 wasn't this long was it?

Hey gotta cut them some slack. They’ve had their two hours of exercise. Surely they’re entitled to a picnic now too.

 

[Prestigerrycomo]

Enjoyed every minute of it, felt for Ads but some of the worst supporters I know so a big karma bus came along

 

[Robroy22]

Was thinking that myself. 26 at half time yet it was Bont and Treloar who were influential. I’ll take 25 from petracca any day over 40 from Daniel

Daniel was Madge or Noble like tonight....at least 15 of his possessions caused turnovers and he gave the ball up at some ridiculous moments.

 

[Nuffsaid]

Funny enough I look at Melbourne’s side - and as awesome as they are - they still carry quite a few players who are just ok.
Their key is great balance, which is what we achieved in 2018.
They could get by with McDonald and Pickett doing sfa tonight because Fritsch and Brown stood up. The superstars help no doubt.
If N.Daicos can be a genuine AGrader, and DeGoey can reach the Petracca levels that he is capable of more consistently, I believe Adams, McRae, JDaicos and Poulter could realistically project to be as good as Viney, Harmes, Brayshaw and Langdon.
They have no player who is in decline, which is also key. The difference is they had Jones, Melksham, Weideman, Daw, etc as very capable back up if needed, but not the relied-upon veterans . (Fraser, obree, Etc of 2010) Let’s hope our focus on the sub 21 group gets us there in the next 2 years.

 

[Sea fog]

Funny enough I look at Melbourne’s side - and as awesome as they are - they still carry quite a few players who are just ok.
Their key is great balance, which is what we achieved in 2018.
They could get by with McDonald and Pickett doing sfa tonight because Fritsch and Brown stood up. The superstars help no doubt.
If N.Daicos can be a genuine AGrader, and DeGoey can reach the Petracca levels that he is capable of more consistently, I believe Adams, McRae, JDaicos and Poulter could realistically project to be as good as Viney, Harmes, Brayshaw and Langdon.
They have no player who is in decline, which is also key. The difference is they had Jones, Melksham, Weideman, Daw, etc as very capable back up if needed, but not the relied-upon veterans . (Fraser, obree, Etc of 2010) Let’s hope our focus on the sub 21 group gets us there in the next 2 years.

May looked a bit of a slug tonight. Not sure if Weed is good backup. Their list is a lot better than ours of course, no arguments there. We do not any real stars and they have abut 5 of them.

 

[Jen2310]

That was... Insane.

From that halfway into the 3rd quarter, one hell of a switch was pulled. Never seen anything like it. Especially in a GF.

A fairytale ending indeed.
Minor premiers. Best team all year. Best team in finals.

 

[davywap]

Especially ones we help pay for

Have a sook

 

[BringouttheGimp]

I did say the Dogs would get up by 29.5+ but was a bit too drunk on Johnny 18's to go back and edit my post.. was gonna write.. 'Oh kala re.. expect close to a 100 point turnaround from my initial prediction.. Melbourne by 69.' They got up by 68. And because I said 'close'.. I meant 68 and that re.

Is that greatness or what re.

 

[MyManLynch]

i wish they got meatloaf in for an encore..

You took the words right out of my mouth.

 

[barrackers]

Who gave Caleb Daniel a Norm Smith vote? How could you give him a vote over Oliver.

That’s the most ineffectual 37 possession game you could ever get. Treloar was actually the Dogs best, got them back into the game.

I was surprised Daniel had 26 to half time. That he ended with 37 shows how easily the dees moved the footy with 8 minutes left in the third.

 

[60 Yards Out]

You took the words right out of my mouth.

Demons went like a bat out of hell.

 

[barrackers]

This afternoon I’m going to rewatch Buckley’s coaching farewell game. After that grand final I’m curious how the hell we managed to beat the dees.

 

[regpies]

May looked a bit of a slug tonight. Not sure if Weed is good backup. Their list is a lot better than ours of course, no arguments there. We do not any real stars and they have abut 5 of them.

May never really flew or went to hard, figured he wasn’t still 100% and admitted after the game he had done his hammy again mid game.

 

[Go Woods]

Funny enough I look at Melbourne’s side - and as awesome as they are - they still carry quite a few players who are just ok.
Their key is great balance, which is what we achieved in 2018.
They could get by with McDonald and Pickett doing sfa tonight because Fritsch and Brown stood up. The superstars help no doubt.
If N.Daicos can be a genuine AGrader, and DeGoey can reach the Petracca levels that he is capable of more consistently, I believe Adams, McRae, JDaicos and Poulter could realistically project to be as good as Viney, Harmes, Brayshaw and Langdon.
They have no player who is in decline, which is also key. The difference is they had Jones, Melksham, Weideman, Daw, etc as very capable back up if needed, but not the relied-upon veterans . (Fraser, obree, Etc of 2010) Let’s hope our focus on the sub 21 group gets us there in the next 2 years.

Anything is possible, Melbourne finished 17th in 2019!
Some shrewd drafting and most importantly great cultural footy department processes in place look what can be achieved.
Dare to dream.....

 

[Vicky Park]

I enjoyed that - a lot. Outstanding performance by the Dees. My son in law in Sydney is a Melbourne fan, albeit lukewarm, but his Dad was crazy about the Dees. He died in his 60s about 10 years ago, and saw their last flag when he was 18. That was one helluva drought.

Petracca, just amazing. The Dees side is so balanced and with a great spread of talent. Fritsch is very annoying - but six goals? I love Clayton Oliver

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Clayton Oliver

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28

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27.8

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3.2

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6.3

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6.3

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25.1

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11.1

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14.0

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3.6

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5.6

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5.9

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19.2

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4.6

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14.6

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2.0

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4.4

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3.8

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's hair! And I enjoyed the entertainment. Great work by the AFL and Perth.

Sorry for the Dogs, but we’ve been there too many times. They really will be back, with a very talented side, terrific kids coming through and a good coach. They won’t do an ‘Adelaide’ and fall off the perch.

All round, a great GF and a great end to the season.

 

[No SPIN]

Fitness guru Burgess had a massive influence, in how he prepared Melb. all season.
He will be a big loss.
Petracca - power, poise, precision.
He was just magnificent.

 

[domus]

May never really flew or went to hard, figured he wasn’t still 100% and admitted after the game he had done his hammy again mid game.

Selfish. Put himself before the team. If they had lost his rep would be badly tarnished.

 

[frizzle]

Was thinking that myself. 26 at half time yet it was Bont and Treloar who were influential. I’ll take 25 from petracca any day over 40 from Daniel

Daniel got 14 possessions from kick ins after a Melbourne point was scored. It's easy to fudge the numbers when you are the designated kicker in defence.
Your take is the same as mine.

 

[jmac70]

I enjoyed that - a lot. Outstanding performance by the Dees. My son in law in Sydney is a Melbourne fan, albeit lukewarm, but his Dad was crazy about the Dees. He died in his 60s about 10 years ago, and saw their last flag when he was 18. That was one helluva drought.

Petracca, just amazing. The Dees side is so balanced and with a great spread of talent. Fritsch is very annoying - but six goals? I love Oliver Clayton’s hair! And I enjoyed the entertainment. Great work by the AFL and Perth.

Sorry for the Dogs, but we’ve been there too many times. They really will be back, with a very talented side, terrific kids coming through and a good coach. They won’t do an ‘Adelaide’ and fall off the perch.

All round, a great GF and a great end to the season.

It will be interesting to see if Josh Dunkley stays. Would also think Adz will ask for a trade to Qld.

 

[neilk]

Sure did.

if I recall correctly the pre-grand final bye came in that year and helped them out a lot.

I think you meant the pre-finals bye.

 

[Vicky Park]

Selfish. Put himself before the team. If they had lost his rep would be badly tarnished.

Agree, May was obviously physically hampered, and it showed and it was irresponsible. Presti did the right thing for us in the 2010 GF. Not sure why Reid was unfit in the 2011 GF, or whether he got injured during the game, but we all know what happened then.

 

[neilk]

I enjoyed that - a lot. Outstanding performance by the Dees. My son in law in Sydney is a Melbourne fan, albeit lukewarm, but his Dad was crazy about the Dees. He died in his 60s about 10 years ago, and saw their last flag when he was 18. That was one helluva drought.

Petracca, just amazing. The Dees side is so balanced and with a great spread of talent. Fritsch is very annoying - but six goals? I love Oliver Clayton’s hair! And I enjoyed the entertainment. Great work by the AFL and Perth.

Sorry for the Dogs, but we’ve been there too many times. They really will be back, with a very talented side, terrific kids coming through and a good coach. They won’t do an ‘Adelaide’ and fall off the perch.

All round, a great GF and a great end to the season.

I didn't notice that Oliver Clayton guy?