Recommitted Ben Long [contracted and staying at St Kilda]

[Elmer_Judd]

Interesting. Wouldn't mind Carlton having a crack at Long, but probably won't have the draft capital to get a deal done with the Saints, especially as he is
Contracted.

The Essendon link makes sense in that aside from the family ties, they badly need a hard nut/enforcer like Long.

Bit surprised St Kilda are open to trading him TBH.

 

[Atomboy]

Couple of late picks to get our NGA’s prospects in the door should do it.

He’s a handy player when up and running but doesn’t really have a spot with the Saints anymore as either a half back or half forward.

 

[eth-dog]

Couple of late picks to get our NGA’s prospects in the door should do it.

He’s a handy when up and running but doesn’t really have a spot with the Saints anymore as either a half back or half forward.

That's interesting, I was thinking the fact he's contracted would mean we'd probably not have the capital to get him. We have two third round picks, I suppose one of those would get him over the line? The second one probably ends up around the 300 point mark after the Daicos, Darcy and Fahey bids, assuming Owens is the first NGA bid on

 

[Atomboy]

That's interesting, I was thinking the fact he's contracted would mean we'd probably not have the capital to get him. We have two third round picks, I suppose one of those would get him over the line? The second one probably ends up around the 300 point mark after the Daicos, Darcy and Fahey bids, assuming Owens is the first NGA bid on

He adds some toughness/aggression but I think he’s one guy on our list that we could cover.

Others might have a different view I am sure.

 

[diddley1984]

Happy to see him go for a pick 30-40 if possible.
That will turn into Windhager or Owens nicely.

 

[Remboy]

He adds some toughness/aggression but I think he’s one guy on our list that we could cover.

Others might have a different view I am sure.

I think that sums it up. We’re focused on mids, need points for our NGAs and have enough small forwards/defenders. We‘d be happy to keep him but you have to give something to get something.

 

[Bald]

I don't actually know if Ben Long

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Ben Long

Age

26

Ht

186cm

Wt

81kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.9

3star

K

6.2

2star

HB

4.7

3star

M

3.3

3star

T

2.7

4star

MG

166.8

3star

D

12.8

3star

K

6.7

3star

HB

6.2

4star

M

3.3

3star

T

2.3

3star

MG

129.0

2star

D

13.4

4star

K

6.8

3star

HB

6.6

4star

M

3.2

4star

T

3.2

5star

MG

223.0

4star

would feature in the top 200 players in the competition.

Not even trolling. I don't know how you value a player like him.

 

[eth-dog]

I don't actually know if Ben Long would feature in the top 200 players in the competition.

Not even trolling. I don't know how you value a player like him.

Top 200 is a pretty high bar. It means you're top 12 at every club.

 

[Bald]

Top 200 is a pretty high bar. It means you're top 12 at every club.

That's a fair point. Never thought about it that way.

 

[Warhorse]

Adds hardness and aggression. I think he is a player and more talented than a player like Hind who they moved on previously. I hope Geelong pick him up

 

[Wahooti Fandango]

Adds hardness and aggression. I think he is a player and more talented than a player like Hind who they moved on previously. I hope Geelong pick him up

 

[MightySaint]

Hard nut but pretty mediocre. Would be surprised at anything more than a 3rd that's used for NGAs.

 

[Warhorse]

I didn't say he was better, just more talented. Both in similar positions at St Kilda in their final year.

 

[Virgin Dog]

I've got the impression he's a bit of a grub on field. Would otherwise have thought he's someone we'd be interested in given his history with the Dogs, and having the attributes we want for the side going forward (aggression, speed).

What's got him out of favour at the Saints?

 

[Wahooti Fandango]

I didn't say he was better, just more talented. Both in similar positions at St Kilda in their final year.

Fair enough.

 

[stfan]

I've got the impression he's a bit of a grub on field. Would otherwise have thought he's someone we'd be interested in given his history with the Dogs, and having the attributes we want for the side going forward (aggression, speed).

What's got him out of favour at the Saints?

I think it is more they need someone to trade to gain a player or two or possibly want points for possibly matching 2 NGA selections (finally have some with our postage stamp sized zone). Though just our luck one will go top 20 and we miss out anyway due to the rule change.


Dunstan may not generate much FA compo. So of the players good enough to make our first 22 in 2022 that we can do without that other clubs may want, and so can trade away, it is probably Long and Battle.

Long has played mainly back or forward. Paton returns from injury in 2022, as does Geary. Up forward Gresham will be back and he will play forward and midfield. Higgins went well and should be better in 2022 as will be fitter, and then they have Butler.

With Battle, Highmore emerged out of no where this year down back and we already have Wilkie, and Sharman from the mid season draft excited everyone once he got into the seniors. Wood looked ok as the backup.

 

[BrutThough]

I've got the impression he's a bit of a grub on field. Would otherwise have thought he's someone we'd be interested in given his history with the Dogs, and having the attributes we want for the side going forward (aggression, speed).

What's got him out of favour at the Saints?

Mainly just poor form pushing him out of the 22, and if clubs are interested in him we could do with the pick.

Sinclair, Webster and Hill all come into defence this year which pushed him out after a poor start to the season. He was then used as sub a lot and struggled. Then first game after the bye, Billings was a late out minutes before running out so Long was then thrown forward at the last minute to cover him, looked really dangerous and that lasted about 1 month before he started to have little impact with both his pressure and disposal.

 

[eastfreo75]

When a club is shopping a player, smell a rat.

 

[diddley1984]

When a club is shopping a player, smell a rat.

Isn’t it being reported that other clubs have come knocking, rather than being shopped around by the club?
I have no problem other clubs asking the question, but it depends on what they want to hear from the player or their current club.

 

[Bulldogs85]

Isn’t it being reported that other clubs have come knocking, rather than being shopped around by the club?
I have no problem other clubs asking the question, but it depends on what they want to hear from the player or their current club.

Yes clubs have come knocking it was said he wants to stay with the saints

 

[Mat Mann]

I've got the impression he's a bit of a grub on field. Would otherwise have thought he's someone we'd be interested in given his history with the Dogs, and having the attributes we want for the side going forward (aggression, speed).

What's got him out of favour at the Saints?

so wrong

hard at it, sometimes he gets it wrong, not dirty

 

[adammania9]

I don't actually know if Ben Long would feature in the top 200 players in the competition.

Not even trolling. I don't know how you value a player like him.

You’re deadset missing a 0 on that number I reckon

 

[Virgin Dog]

so wrong

hard at it, sometimes he gets it wrong, not dirty

The hits on Macrae and Darcy say otherwise

 

[MarkJohnson#1]

I remember watching him live in the VFL for Footscray a few years ago, thought he was an absolute jet. If we were keen he’d be playing forward but this smells like early trade week BS to be honest…

 

[Mat Mann]

The hits on Macrae and Darcy say otherwise

Darcy was unfortunate, Darcy fell fwd and down, Ben just didn't have time to react
as for McRae, the only player ever suspended for a potential injury. McRae didn't even get a concussion test, didn't need any treatment whatsoever.

and yet Hunter Clarke can have his jaw broken in 3 places by high contact and nothing.....