Michael Corleone
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Who cares what the EU does?And the US State Dept is on the EU Commission?
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Who cares what the EU does?And the US State Dept is on the EU Commission?
Who cares what the EU does?
We can still supply them with raw materials for battery technology, semiconductors, etc. We can even become part of the value-add chain, which is being explored with the US as they try to find a way to be less reliant on China. Of course, Victoria doesn’t really have any critical mineral resources so they’re excluded from this discussion.Chinese exporters
We can still supply them with raw materials for battery technology, semiconductors, etc. We can even become part of the value-add chain, which is being explored with the US as they try to find a way to be less reliant on China. Of course, Victoria doesn’t really have any critical mineral resources so they’re excluded from this discussion.
Please explain. California has had a mix of Republican and Democrat governance and support since at least the 1930s until the 1990s.A lot of California’s capital enterprise was established when it was strongly Republican.
You're aware the Democrats control both houses of legislature in California and have done almost continuously since 1970, right? Combined with having many Democrat governors since then, they've been able to levy whatever taxes they want. And despite having higher taxes than other states, Silicon Valley has not departed en masse, nor have other high-tech industries, because the pool of labour and services available in California isn't easily matched anywhere else. Texas is probably the only challenger on that front, and its social conservatism is repelling a lot of people at the moment. Regardless, there is no massive capital flight from California, they're doing just fine after Jerry Brown returned and solved the budget issues.If they became wholly Democrat, with Democratic increases to taxes, etc, you’d likely see capital depart for more accomodating jurisdictions.
Hollywood, Silicon Valley, and various other industries were founded when California was far more right leaning. As the state has become more progressive, the divide between rich and poor has exploded, while many people live close to favela conditions. San Francisco for example is one of the most progressive cities in the world and has for the last five years struggled to solve the problem of public defecation.Please explain. California has had a mix of Republican and Democrat governance and support since at least the 1930s until the 1990s.
Citation needed. Hollywood was founded in the 1910s and California voted for a Democrat in the 1916 presidential election (on top of which, parties back then bore little resemblance ideologically to what they do now). Silicon Valley was founded in the 50s and 60s around the time Pat Brown was governor, and got a second wind in the early 80s around the time Jerry Brown was governor. While California voted strongly for Republicans in Presidential elections around these eras, I'd chalk that up more to Richard Nixon and Ronald Reagan being the nominees, both of them being from California. The home state effect in presidential elections is well-known.Hollywood, Silicon Valley, and various other industries were founded when California was far more right leaning.
Yes, due to the success of businesses and limits on taxation. California voters drastically cut their own property tax in the late 70s and this had big flow-on effects in terms of inequality.As the state has become more progressive, the divide between rich and poor has exploded
So has Paris. What's your point?San Francisco for example is one of the most progressive cities in the world and has for the last five years struggled to solve the problem of public defecation.
You know they already have their own state income taxes, right?Hard to see how a progressive Californian country with its own income taxes and currency could do any better.
Citation needed. Hollywood was founded in the 1910s and California voted for a Democrat in the 1916 presidential election (on top of which, parties back then bore little resemblance ideologically to what they do now). Silicon Valley was founded in the 50s and 60s around the time Pat Brown was governor, and got a second wind in the early 80s around the time Jerry Brown was governor. While California voted strongly for Republicans in Presidential elections around these eras, I'd chalk that up more to Richard Nixon and Ronald Reagan being the nominees, both of them being from California. The home state effect in presidential elections is well-known.
So I wouldn't say California was right leaning, it was politically neutral, sometime favouring one party, sometimes favouring another.
Deprivation is rife throughout progressive cities like New York and Philadelphia, which has nothing to do with Proposition 13.Yes, due to the success of businesses and limits on taxation. California voters drastically cut their own property tax in the late 70s and this had big flow-on effects in terms of inequality.
Paris is also dysfunctional.So has Paris. What's your point?
Yes, but there is a difference between that and the level of taxes required to support a nation state, eg backing a currency, funding a military, supporting a welfare state. California is already one of the highest taxing parts of the US, with a polity that leans extremely progressive, with increasingly Latin American demographics, what would a country like that look like?You know they already have their own state income taxes, right?
What does this have to with the supply of lithium, copper etc? Where is the EU going to get those raw materials? Start plundering Africa again?Look up how chain of custody works.
Chinese manufacturers have to prove not just their manufacturing complies, but their supply chain. Manufacturers are already warning suppliers they will need to start transitioning to be compliant.
What does this have to with the supply of lithium, copper etc? Where is the EU going to get those raw materials? Start plundering Africa again?
Seems extraordinarily unworkable. Will they have inspectors making sure what ore blends from which sources are going into Chinese refineries and smelters? Maybe the EU could come up with a blockchain for this.they just want to make sure that the cost of carbon and the like is being captured.
if we wont do it, they will do it for us (and i'd rather pay a carbon tax to canberra than a carbon tariff to Brussels)
Seems extraordinarily unworkable. Will they have inspectors making sure what ore blends from which sources are going into Chinese refineries and smelters? Maybe the EU could come up with a blockchain for this.
Then why did they elect another Republican former actor as governor this century?I said it was more right-leaning then, not right-leaning. This was a state that elected Reagan as governor, unthinkable now. Now it is functionally a one-party state.
Deprivation is even more rife in Republican-voting states like Mississippi. This is America, it's a land with a lot of poverty, and places with lots of people will have their share.Deprivation is rife throughout progressive cities like New York and Philadelphia, which has nothing to do with Proposition 13.
So? What does that have to do with capital flight?Paris is also dysfunctional.
Canada, minus the Latinos. Why is the Latino population an issue?Yes, but there is a difference between that and the level of taxes required to support a nation state, eg backing a currency, funding a military, supporting a welfare state. California is already one of the highest taxing parts of the US, with a polity that leans extremely progressive, with increasingly Latin American demographics, what would a country like that look like?
Timber & seafood is pretty easy to identify the provenance. Less so with copper concentrate molecules.already happens in timber and seafood
also read up on food miles
You mean nearly 20 years ago? Schwarzenegger's politics were nothing like Reagan's.Then why did they elect another Republican former actor as governor this century?
Nowhere is as bad as skid rows in LA, Philly, New York, etc.Deprivation is even more rife in Republican-voting states like Mississippi. This is America, it's a land with a lot of poverty, and places with lots of people will have their share.
Europe as a whole is not a place with a lot of economic dynamism.So? What does that have to do with capital flight?
Latin American leftism is by-and-large very economically unsuccessful.Canada, minus the Latinos. Why is the Latino population an issue?
Timber & seafood is pretty easy to identify the provenance. Less so with copper concentrate molecules.
And has this stopped illegal logging & illegal fishing? You know the answer to that.how do you do it in a milk carton, where the timber has been sourced from multiple importers from multiple exporters from multiple forests across the planet?
the tools are already there
And has this stopped illegal logging & illegal fishing? You know the answer to that.
Yes, now China buys all the “illegal s**t”, thereby changing nothing.its massively reduced it. USA/EU/JP/AU were all buying the illegal sh*t, mixing it with some good stuff, and then claiming its all good
now to make the claim, retailers (and some govts inc ours) expect them to back it up with evidence
you're stuck in the 1980's
Yes, now China buys all the “illegal sh*t”, thereby changing nothing.
Now if you think the major exporter of lithium (as well as supplier and source of other critical minerals) is going to be sanctioned as the world transitions to renewables you’re mad.
The EU won’t have a choice when the demand for critical minerals explodes. Market realities will override their bureaucratic imposition.you are clearly showing you have no idea of how chain of custody works. if chinese factories cannot prove they sourced the mats as claimed, they dont get the endorsement they need to sell their product to their buyers.
again, you're living in the 1980's, and you think the EU and everyone else will let us do whatever we want because "straya"
The EU won’t have a choice when the demand for critical minerals explodes. Market realities will override their bureaucratic imposition.
No, I’m one of those people who knows how insane the demand for critical minerals will be in the next 30 years and that Australia will be the most important suppliers of them, which is why the US govt is securing the cooperation of our mineral industry in their strategic interest.chinese firms are already acting to tell their suppliers to comply
are you one of these idiots who thinks china is still paying USD 200/mt for iron becauase "straya"?
No, I’m one of those people who knows how insane the demand for critical minerals will be in the next 30 years and that Australia will be the most important suppliers of them, which is why the US govt is securing the cooperation of our mineral industry in their strategic interest.