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Quite clear why no one is a member of a union any more.American labour org says you wouldn’t win a case against mandatory vaccination:
AFL says "Just get the shot"
Alberta’s largest worker group, the Alberta Federation of Labour (AFL), has released a legal opinion stating that, in almost all cases, mandatory workplace COVID vaccination policies are legal and would not be overturned by arbitrators or the courts. The opinion, authored by labour Lawyer Leanne...lacombeonline.com
They do such a good job of it they continue to lose members and political power!Because they seek legal advice and publicise it to their members? The bastards!
Political parties in Australia are losing members. Couple of pissy little right wing ones are picking up a small base.4They do such a good job of it they continue to lose members and political power!
They do such a good job of it they continue to lose members and political power!
But why does this legal advice show why unions are losing members?They do such a good job of it they continue to lose members and political power!
It's hard for unions to succeed when there has been a long term, sustained push by capital to render them worthless and irrelevant.
Is it to protect health services? This could be counterproductive given that many health workers remain non-vaccinated and would have to drop out of the workforce.
The strength and value of unions has always found it's base in the dismissing of existing legal framework to demand a better outcome for their members.But why does this legal advice show why unions are losing members?
I didn't see anything in there that said they would or would not challenge the law.dismissing of existing legal framework to demand a better outcome for their members.
Your position on this might be different if there was a law signed in that allowed employers to require their staff to work an extra 10 hours a week unpaid when the business was declared in financial trouble
Pretty dramatic.invalidate members of society
The pandemic has allowed the removal of what would have been a freedom of personal choice for the benefit of the big machine, many of them in fact.I didn't see anything in there that said they would or would not challenge the law.
Your example is nothing at all like the pandemic, so my opposition to something like that would be consistent.
Pretty dramatic.
I’m sure it has. Unfortunately that freedom of choice is also killing people.The pandemic has allowed the removal of what would have been a freedom of personal choice for the benefit of the big machine, many of them in fact.
There's a couple of legal actions been launched.
The first Victorian legal challenge to the COVID-19 vaccine mandate for teachers has been issued in court. Self-represented casual relief teacher Belinda Cetnar and horticulturalist Jack Cetnar have gone to the Supreme Court to argue the no jab, no work policy is not legally or ethically justified, undermines the rule of law and is inconsistent with their human rights.
But they won’t be if they get vaccinated. Easy.
No just practical.
I agree that they most likely won't win and it was a mistake to self represent. I don't know much precedence will arise from it.
I found the the comments from Josh Bornstein interesting. He said it is likely that courts will uphold employer orders compelling employees to be vaccinated. And employers who didn’t ensure their workers were vaccinated could leave themselves open to being sued if, as a result of that failure, people became sick or died.
Does this imply that employers who compel employees to be vaccinated could leave themselves open to being sued if, as a result of the vaccine, people became sick or died?
Josh Bornstein seems a bit muddled. The vaccine mandates are State Government measures. But he's talking about employers being liable.
If employers are liable for people getting sick by failing to apply vaccine mandates then they would also be liable for people getting sick by applying vaccine mandates.