Covid-19 Wuhan Coronavirus (COVID-19) - Part 4 - Ivermectin doesn't work either.

[Chief]

Continued in Part 5:

Covid-19 - Wuhan Coronavirus (COVID-19) - Part 5 - Get vaccinated.

https://www.health.nsw.gov.au/Infectious/covid-19/Documents/in-focus/covid-19-vaccination-case-surveillance-051121.pdf In the peak fortnight of the outbreak to date (25 August to 7 September), the COVID-19 case rate among 2-dose vaccinated people was 49.5 per 100,000 while in unvaccinated...

www.bigfooty.com

 

[Marcel Proust]

New York protesters chant 'save Australia' in bizarre rallies in US

Crowds filled the streets of the Big Apple as they marched to the Australian consulate in Manhattan, carrying Australian flags and signs that read: 'What is happening in Melbourne?'.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[Dogs_R_Us]

New York protesters chant 'save Australia' in bizarre rallies in US

Crowds filled the streets of the Big Apple as they marched to the Australian consulate in Manhattan, carrying Australian flags and signs that read: 'What is happening in Melbourne?'.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Aussies react with savage sarcasm to ‘Save Australia’ protest

Australia needs “saving” according to hundreds of protesters who marched through New York City yesterday — but their offer hasn’t been received in the way they might have anticipated.

www.news.com.au

 

[Marcel Proust]

Aussies react with savage sarcasm to ‘Save Australia’ protest

Australia needs “saving” according to hundreds of protesters who marched through New York City yesterday — but their offer hasn’t been received in the way they might have anticipated.

www.news.com.au

Yeah I read that.

Another shyte news.com.au article with four tweets which apparently reflects the views of Australia.

Worse than basketball news done in the similar style

 

[madmug]

Sure.
Compared to Covid though, its not spread via contact.

You mentioned 10-15% lung cancer from smoking. I was pointing out the other comorbidities from smoking, Also from passive smoking.

 

[Frank Bunn]

I can understand why they haven't, it's difficult to document. But in an ideal scenario, yes those recovered from it should be exempt from vaccination, at least for as long as said protection lasts, maybe they'd need to be subject to boosters like other people.

Why is it difficult to document? Someone has a positive test and a few days or weeks later they have a negative test. You could also get checked for antibodies.

Isn't a thing.

They're not 'naturally' immune. They've been sick along with all the associated risks and side-effects, and recovered. Some fully. Some not fully.

This is nonsense. The vast majority recover from this virus (over 99.5%) without serious consequences by their natural immune systems.

 

[owen87]

Why is it difficult to document?

Because we already keep vaccination records. We don't have any such thing for "infected by virus" records.

This is nonsense. The vast majority recover from this virus (over 99.5%) without serious consequences by their natural immune systems.

So they don't have 'natural immunity'. As I said.

 

[Better Loosen Up]

New York protesters chant 'save Australia' in bizarre rallies in US

Crowds filled the streets of the Big Apple as they marched to the Australian consulate in Manhattan, carrying Australian flags and signs that read: 'What is happening in Melbourne?'.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Maybe they should concentrate on saving themselves first...

 

[Better Loosen Up]

This is nonsense. The vast majority recover from this virus (over 99.5%) without serious consequences by their natural immune systems.

99.5% recovery hey?

Total cases
237,089,319

Total deaths
4,840,904

Death rate alone is 2.04% before you begin to factor in long covid and other non death serious consequences.

Nice try

 

[Marcel Proust]

99.5% recovery hey?

Total cases
237,089,319

Total deaths
4,840,904

Death rate alone is 2.04% before you begin to factor in long covid and other non death serious consequences.

Nice try

At the start of the pandemic the authorities were saying if you had a week to live in a Hospice and got corona it was still classed as a corona death

 

[Marcel Proust]

Magic’s Jonathan Isaac defends vaccine stance: 'We live in the land of the free'

Orlando Magic forward Jonathan Isaac spoke on "Fox News @ Night" Monday about how he somewhat reluctantly found himself in the middle of the country's COVID-19 vaccine debate.

www.foxnews.com

 

[Chief]

if you had a week to live

Who decides that?

 

[Marcel Proust]

Who decides that?

Doctors predict how long dying people have to go

 

[Better Loosen Up]

At the start of the pandemic the authorities were saying if you had a week to live in a Hospice and got corona it was still classed as a corona death

I really couldn't give a sh1t about your case by case exceptions.

These are the offical figures. Deal with it.

 

[Marcel Proust]

I really couldn't give a sh1t about your case by case exceptions.

These are the offical figures. Deal with it.

The point was I wonder how skewed the stats are with comorbidity and co.

If it's legit +2% death rate thats a worry

 

[Chief]

Doctors predict how long dying people have to go

So doctors are infallible now? Even the ones that report Covid deaths, and tell us to isolate, wear masks, sanitise, lock down, get vaccinated?

 

[Chief]

The point was I wonder how skewed the stats are with comorbidity and co.

If it's legit +2% death rate thats a worry

And looking at excess deaths, we know that deaths are under-reported, not over-reported.

 

[Marcel Proust]

So doctors are infallible now? Even the ones that report Covid deaths, and tell us to isolate, wear masks, sanitise, lock down, get vaccinated?

Na I was going to add thankfully they get it wrong sometimes and people live more than expected.

I do get ya point however

 

[Better Loosen Up]

The point was I wonder how skewed the stats are with comorbidity and co.

If it's legit +2% death rate thats a worry

Of course you worry because you have spent the last 18 months immersing yourself in conspiracy garbage.

Covid-19 has all the hallmarks of the perfect virus.

It has increasingly high infectivity rates with each new variant.

It can be transmitted asymptomatically within 2 days of host infection.

And it ONLY has a very low death rate of 2% which means that the virus is not killing off too many of its hosts before it is able to be transmitted to someone else. This is actually a bad thing hence why nearly 5 million people have died and many more will continue to.

Take SARS1 as a comparison. Much higher death rate of 8% but only ended up killing 774 people. Why? Because the host had to have symptoms for 6 - 8 days before they became infectious. This meant that simple test, trace and isolation methods were able to quash the virus pretty quickly. Even without having to lockdown an entire population to do so.

 

[Better Loosen Up]

Sars and Covid-19 are also around 80% related in terms of their dna. Shows how much of a difference 20% can make in the world of viruses.

 

[Marcel Proust]

Of course you worry because you have spent the last 18 months emmersing yourself in conspiracy garbage.

Covid-19 has all the hallmarks of the perfect virus.

It has increasingly high infectivity rates with each new variant.

It can be transmitted asymptomatically within 2 days of host infection.

And it ONLY has a very low death rate of 2% which means that the virus is not killing off too many of its hosts before it is able to be transmitted to someone else. This is actually a bad thing hence why nearly 5 million people have died and many more will continue to.

Take SARS1 as a comparison. Much higher death rate of 8% but only ended up killing 774 people. Why? Because the host had to have symptoms for 6 - 8 days before they became infectious. This meant that simple test, trace and isolation methods were able to quash the virus pretty quickly. Even without having to lockdown an entire population to do so.

Conspiracy is a fairly loaded term.

What was considered such often sometimes then turns factual or near enough.

https://www.nationalreview.com/news/leaked-grant-proposal-confirms-chinese-and-american-scientists-planned-to-create-novel-coronavirus/

Try looking into 'confirmed conspiracy' lists for example.

Fwiw I don't have many opinions on these matters and try stay open minded. However I do mistrust the gov and mainstream media somewhat.

As I said at the start when the authorities were explaining the classifications of what is a corona death it sounded a bit weird for mine.

 

[Better Loosen Up]

Conspiracy is a fairly loaded term.

What was considered such often then turns factual or near enough.

https://www.nationalreview.com/news/leaked-grant-proposal-confirms-chinese-and-american-scientists-planned-to-create-novel-coronavirus/

Try looking into 'confirmed conspiracy' lists for example.

Fwiw I don't have many opinions on these matters and try stay open minded. However I do mistrust the gov and mainstream media somewhat.

As I said at the start when the authorities were explaining the classifications of what is a corona death it sounded a bit weird for mine.

The problem when you start questioning authorities too much, the truth actually becomes more and more distorted.

Generally i will respect what the experts/ authority have to say in most cases because i don't pretend that i know better.

I will always maintain a level of common sense/ critical thinking so if something doesn't sound right, i will investigate further/ ask queations.

 

[Frank Bunn]

Because we already keep vaccination records. We don't have any such thing for "infected by virus" records.

It's an indictment if the IT systems are so s**t if they can't record infected by virus.

But it's not that hard if you use your imagination - eg create a new vaccine in the system called 'naturally immune'.

So they don't have 'natural immunity'. As I said.

If someone has a virus then recovers from it by their immune system and develops antibodies isn't that natural immunity?

 

[owen87]

It's an indictment if the IT systems are so sh*t if they can't record infected by virus.

But it's not that hard if you use your imagination - eg create a new vaccine in the system called 'naturally immune'.



If someone has a virus then recovers from it by their immune system and develops antibodies isn't that natural immunity?

But they're not 'naturally immune'

They caught the virus, then recovered from it.

There's a very clear, very incorrect, use of terminology there.

They've basically received a more effective vaccine, with significantly higher risks of side-effects than any of the vaccines on the market.

 

[Chief]

But they're not 'naturally immune'

They caught the virus, then recovered from it.

There's a very clear, very incorrect, use of terminology there.

No I got caught by that earlier. It’s the language they use. It isn’t clear to us laymen.

 

[Frank Bunn]

But they're not 'naturally immune'

They caught the virus, then recovered from it.

There's a very clear, very incorrect, use of terminology there.

They've basically received a more effective vaccine, with significantly higher risks of side-effects than any of the vaccines on the market.

This is bollocks.

We are talking about people who did not receive a vaccine. They got infected, their immune system responded - naturally - and now they are immune to the virus.