Mega Thread 2021 Draft

[Lore]

Hey guys, scuse the intrusion. Thought you might like to have this resource on your board (mods might like to sticky):

 

[Shaucob_Burjan]

I've seen several compare Draper to Gray, how accurate is that?

 

[JakeNeadeFan]

I've seen several compare Draper to Gray, how accurate is that?

I haven't seen heaps of him, but not like Gray imo. More rozee

 

[Zakk Wylde]

Matthew Johnson a chance now...

 

[powerrrrrrrrrrrr]

These weaknesses for Roberts just make him sound like a truely horrible prospect that will not translate at all to AFL level and faster paced game.

Weaknesses:
Prone to rushing under pressure and bombing long by foot for territory
Needs to take more time after a mark or free kick to assess his options before moving the ball on
Would benefit from lowering his eyes and looking to hit up shorter targets more oftenI
Limited speed
Limited time and space in traffic

Hope we go for one of Sonsie, Erasmus, Draper or Goater as we need a midfielder and not a flanker or Van Rooyen as a key defender.

 

[Sleezy]

Without doing the math, it looks like Daicos will chew up 5-6 picks, and Darcy 3-4 picks.

Then there’s Fahey, Owens, Windhager who may all go earlier than J Burgoyne, and GWS & St Kilda all have throw away picks ahead of our 63.

Can Burgoyne last to pick 50 and we squeeze in another draft pick ahead of him? Maybe a Leek Aleer?

 

[Holden Hillbilly]

Possibilities (via Knighmares phantom):

Matthew Roberts
Best position: Inside midfield
Height, weight: 183cm, 81kg
Recruited from: South Adelaide
Projected draft range: 10-30
Plays like: Dayne Beams

Matthew Johnson
Best position: Inside midfield
Height, weight: 192cm, 80kg
Recruited from: Subiaco
Projected draft range: 5-20
Plays like: Scott Pendlebury

10

Scott Pendlebury

Age

37

Ht

191cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

26.5

5star

K

13.2

5star

HB

13.3

5star

M

4.1

4star

T

4.9

5star

CL

4.9

5star

D

25.1

5star

K

12.3

5star

HB

12.9

5star

M

3.4

3star

T

2.3

3star

CL

3.6

4star

D

12.4

4star

K

7.6

3star

HB

4.8

4star

M

5.8

5star

T

2.6

4star

Mac Andrew (Melbourne Next-Generation Academy)
Best position: Ruck
Height, weight: 200cm, 70kg
Recruited from: Dandenong Stingrays
Projected draft range: 2-10
Plays like: Paddy Ryder

Arlo Draper
Best position: Utility
Height, weight: 185cm, 71kg
Recruited from: South Adelaide
Projected draft range: 5-25
Plays like: Robbie Gray

9

Robbie Gray

Age

37

Ht

183cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

19.9

5star

K

9.8

4star

HB

10.1

5star

M

3.5

4star

T

3.2

5star

G

1.4

5star

D

13.3

3star

K

6.0

2star

HB

7.3

4star

M

2.4

3star

T

2.6

4star

G

0.6

4star

D

10.4

3star

K

6.6

3star

HB

3.8

3star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.4

4star

G

1.4

5star

Zac Taylor
Best position: Balanced midfielder
Height, weight: 180cm, 74kg
Recruited from: Calder Cannons
Projected draft range: 15-45
Plays like: Jy Simpkin

12

Jy Simpkin

Age

27

Ht

183cm

Wt

77kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.0

4star

K

7.9

3star

HB

8.1

5star

M

2.4

3star

T

3.3

5star

CL

2.9

4star

D

20.6

5star

K

11.0

4star

HB

9.6

5star

M

2.0

2star

T

3.5

4star

CL

5.5

5star

D

10.0

3star

K

5.6

3star

HB

4.4

4star

M

2.8

3star

T

2.4

4star

CL

0.2

2star

Josh Rachele
Best position: Utility
Height, weight: 180cm, 78kg
Recruited from: Murray Bushrangers
Projected draft range: 5-20
Plays like: Alan Didak

Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera
Best position: Outside midfield/general defence
Height, weight: 188cm, 70kg
Recruited from: Glenelg
Projected draft range: 5-25
Plays like: Shane Edwards
September ranking: 15

Leek Alleer
Best position: Key defence
Height, weight: 196cm, 84kg
Recruited from: Central Districts
Projected draft range: 15-45
Plays like: Aliir Aliir

21

Aliir Aliir

Age

31

Ht

194cm

Wt

96kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

15.2

4star

K

9.3

4star

HB

5.9

4star

M

5.2

5star

T

1.9

4star

MG

240.9

4star

D

11.0

3star

K

6.0

2star

HB

5.0

3star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.0

3star

D

13.0

4star

K

6.4

3star

HB

6.6

4star

M

3.8

4star

T

2.0

4star

MG

158.4

3star

 

[Port 2004]

Matthew Johnson a chance now...

Is is any good Zac.

 

[Revan11]

I like Mac Andrew for pick 12. Develop him as a KPD.

Apparently we're interviewing Kade Dittmar on Monday. Any ideas of his range?

 

[Zakk Wylde]

Is is any good Zac.

191cm pure mid. Killed SA twice this year in the U/19. Smooth mover.

 

[Chizza12]

Josh Sinn if we want an outside mid with blistering speed and deadly left foot kick.

 

[philthy05]

I've seen several compare Draper to Gray, how accurate is that?

Not remotely

Matthew Johnson a chance now...

I’m not convinced at all by Johnson. He screams meh to me. Should be going In the 15-30 range of a decent draft.
Not sold that the ‘looks to have time even though he isn’t quick’ works as well at afl level. Nor do I think he is a great contested ball winner or inside player so much as just ‘okay’

I like Mac Andrew for pick 12. Develop him as a KPD.

Apparently we're interviewing Kade Dittmar on Monday. Any ideas of his range?

I would be horrified by Andrew.

he’s an amazing athlete. Not a footballers arseh*le at the moment.

if Someone teaches him to be a footballer then he could be great, I’ll be ****ed if I want to be the team that pays the high price to play that hard to win lottery
Dittmar would be a late ish pick I would have thought.

 

[Zakk Wylde]

Not remotely


I’m not convinced at all by Johnson. He screams meh to me. Should be going In the 15-30 range of a decent draft.
Not sold that the ‘looks to have time even though he isn’t quick’ works as well at afl level. Nor do I think he is a great contested ball winner or inside player so much as just ‘okay’


I would be horrified by Andrew.

he’s an amazing athlete. Not a footballers arseh*le at the moment.

if Someone teaches him to be a footballer then he could be great, I’ll be f’ed if I want to be the team that pays the high price to play that hard to win lottery
Dittmar would be a late ish pick I would have thought.

I've only seen the 2 games, plus some other bits and pieces.

Do you think Draper could play purely in the middle?? He's much more dynamic.

 

[Schulzenfest]

Can we take whoever it was who apparently plays like Scott Pendlebury

10

Scott Pendlebury

Age

37

Ht

191cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

26.5

5star

K

13.2

5star

HB

13.3

5star

M

4.1

4star

T

4.9

5star

CL

4.9

5star

D

25.1

5star

K

12.3

5star

HB

12.9

5star

M

3.4

3star

T

2.3

3star

CL

3.6

4star

D

12.4

4star

K

7.6

3star

HB

4.8

4star

M

5.8

5star

T

2.6

4star

? I would love a Scott Pendlebury

10

Scott Pendlebury

Age

37

Ht

191cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

26.5

5star

K

13.2

5star

HB

13.3

5star

M

4.1

4star

T

4.9

5star

CL

4.9

5star

D

25.1

5star

K

12.3

5star

HB

12.9

5star

M

3.4

3star

T

2.3

3star

CL

3.6

4star

D

12.4

4star

K

7.6

3star

HB

4.8

4star

M

5.8

5star

T

2.6

4star

.

 

[Young Gun #6]

Can we take whoever it was who apparently plays like Scott Pendlebury? I would love a Scott Pendlebury.

That’s Matthew Johnson I believe

 

[Turksta84]

Sonsie, Draper, Erasmus, Johnson, Wanganeen-Milera seem like the Mids around our pick 12

Amiss or Gibcus if we go tall at that pick 12.

Personally wouldnt mind a strong marking key fwd to develop even know fwd stocks are strong, a power marking fwd after charlie next to Georgiades,

 

[Shaucob_Burjan]

Can we take whoever it was who apparently plays like Scott Pendlebury? I would love a Scott Pendlebury.

In this highlight package Johnson looks like a cross between Pendlebury and Drew.

 

[Sleezy]

So I did the maths, assuming the following:
- no more pick trades
- Darcy bid pick 2
- Daicos bid pick 3
- Fahey bid pick 30
- no other bids likely in that range
- I checked bids later on, and at most they would move our picks by 1, so I ignored them as mostly irrelevant

Outcome:
Bulldogs require 2013 pts, use 23, 43, 44, 45, 52, regain pick 62

our picks: 63, 73, 74 -> 59, 70, 71

Coll require 1787, use 27, 36, 43, 45, regain pick 61

our picks: 59, 70, 71 -> 56, 68, 69

GWS require 411, use 46, 66, deficit of 21 pts for 2022 2nd Rnd Pick

our picks: 56, 68, 69 -> 55, 67, 68

Total 334 points, enough to match a bid on Burgoyne from 35 onwards.

If Owens or Windhager go top 40 then that could bump us up a little higher, but that seems unlikely, and would get us maybe 30 more points (bid match at 33).

So comfortable with that for Jase.

 

[Honeyboy Wilson]

Sonsie is my biggest want - has the tools for what we need (speed, skill, clearance ability), even though he had an injury-interrupted and inconsistent season. Can also impact forward.

For some reason, I've become more and more into Arlo Draper as well. Even in a "down" game like that first one against WA where every SA big name laid an egg, there was something about him, a presence that made him notable and could do things others couldn't. I see him becoming a very good pack player.

Goater has the size and athleticism and has improved greatly over the year.

Johnson has the size and smarts.

Rachele has the X factor.

I think I'd be decently pleased with one of those five.

 

[It Just Is]

Matthew Johnson a chance now...

Yes please.

I've seen several compare Draper to Gray, how accurate is that?

Not what I’ve seen. The best I can come up with is early career Cam Guthrie (before he became a full time mid).

 

[port_adelaide_1870]

So basically we will get
pick 14 (two father sons from 12 to 14)
Burgoyne between picks 30-50
And a late draftee unknown (picks 70-80)

 

[port_adelaide_1870]

I’m on the Johnson bandwagon. Get him port

 

[shewho]

I've seen several compare Draper to Gray, how accurate is that?

Not at all. Draper is more of an athlete- agile, quickish- much less clever.

 

[Honeyboy Wilson]

Total 334 points, enough to match a bid on Burgoyne from 35 onwards.

If Owens or Windhager go top 40 then that could bump us up a little higher, but that seems unlikely, and would get us maybe 30 more points (bid match at 33).

So comfortable with that for Jase.

Yeah, very comfortable with our hand for Burgoyne - do these calculations take into account the father-son discount as well?

 

[Sleezy]

Yeah, very comfortable with our hand for Burgoyne - do these calculations take into account the father-son discount as well?

Yep. And shifting picks forward as bids are calculated, reintroducing picks with the leftovers.

I was hoping to have a nice table, but it’s way too iterative, only makes sense one step at a time.

 

[all seeing eye]

I’m on the Johnson bandwagon. Get him port

Hes my man with that height factor being the diff. I fear however that west coast will grab him at 10.