Mega Thread 2021 Draft

[Lore]

Hey guys, scuse the intrusion. Thought you might like to have this resource on your board (mods might like to sticky):

 

[all seeing eye]

Not at all. Draper is more of an athlete- agile, quickish- much less clever.

Saw him at Alberton and has speed and nice side step, sold a real dummy to our defender and spotted up lead, Moment that left me thinking that kid has some x factor

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

Need to draft 2 rucks. One a kid the other a state league guy already filled out and 23 to 25 years old.

One with pick 92 or 110 which will end up about pick 65 as sides pass on picks as well as picks eliminated in bids..

The other in the rookie draft or one of those bullshit start of season or mid season drafts.

 

[Adz2332]

Talk is we will take Wanganeen

 

[Revan11]

Talk is we will take Wanganeen

Interesting. Would've though pure mid or a tall.

 

[VineValerian]

Lol the club website spinning this as a great result:
- strengthening our draft hand (well, marginally)
- worked with Swans (doesn't seem like it was all that amicable tbh)
- Ladhams advised club he wanted to go to Sydney (was told to look elsewhere - made it sound like we were just such big hearted guys and helped him out, so a win:win for all!!!!!).

 

[It Just Is]

Talk is we will take Wanganeen

I think there is a real chance he goes between Hawthorn’s pick 5 and Fremantle’s pick 8. Freo have 2 picks in that range and he’s exactly the player type their list is crying out for.

 

[philthy05]

I've only seen the 2 games, plus some other bits and pieces.

Do you think Draper could play purely in the middle?? He's much more dynamic.

That’s close to all I’ve seen as Johnson. He’s not a horrible prospect that I’ll be super worried about picking up, but there’s a few doubts I have about his game translating.

I’ve seen tonnes of Draper, and it’s still hard to tell if he will become a mid. I think his defensive side and accountability is non-existent in the centre and his opponent can do what ever he wants in the middle against him.

but he’s still a very promising footballer

Sonsie is my biggest want - has the tools for what we need (speed, skill, clearance ability), even though he had an injury-interrupted and inconsistent season. Can also impact forward.

For some reason, I've become more and more into Arlo Draper as well. Even in a "down" game like that first one against WA where every SA big name laid an egg, there was something about him, a presence that made him notable and could do things others couldn't. I see him becoming a very good pack player.

Goater has the size and athleticism and has improved greatly over the year.

Johnson has the size and smarts.

Rachele has the X factor.

I think I'd be decently pleased with one of those five.

agree on sonsie. His drop off in the draft year concerns me, but when he did play well, he was exactly what we need. There’s some risk there but the upside of selecting him is very high.

Need to draft 2 rucks. One a kid the other a state league guy already filled out and 23 to 25 years old.

One with pick 92 or 110 which will end up about pick 65 as sides pass on picks as well as picks eliminated in bids..

The other in the rookie draft or one of those bullshit start of season or mid season drafts.

Any ruck drafted this year will be a list clogger.

 

[powerrrrrrrrrrrr]

Talk is we will take Wanganeen

Really hope not. We need a pure inside mid not another outside player.

 

[Macca19]

The only reason Draper gets comapred to Robbie is because he can play both as a goal scoring forward and as a genuine midfielder. Other than that, their actual game style is pretty far apart. Robbie has x-factor and insane goal sense that Draper just doesn't have. Draper has a knack for kicking big goals and dragging his team into it though. He's a lot more of a marking medium forward. He's more like a Heeney than a Gray.

In terms of midfield though they are miles apart. Robbie is/was a clearance machine and was absolutely elite and being able to weave his way through traffic to get free. Draper is more a traditional get ball, kick it forward clearance type. I'm not sold on his midfield work as i've said before. His direct opponent gets a lot of the ball and a lot of clearances.

I'd be happy getting Draper.

I'd be happier with Rachele, who is a lot like a young Gray/Butters. Great goal sense, quick, damaging inside 50 and will be able to transition into the midfield.

My only real concern with Johnson is defensive pressure. He's elite around the packs but has tended to just run off and do what he wants without care for an opponent this year. But, in terms of midfield need he is exactly what we should be after. Tall, endurance, elite clearance winner, great skills, elite vision. He'd be great.

Sonsie also fits that bill. Good inside/outside mid, good skills, can play on a flank. He's the Boak clone this draft. He was neck and neck with Horne-Francis for me until about 12 months ago and whilst he's fallen down the rankings a bit, he's in that perfect range for us.

Wanganeen-Milera would also be alright but he doesn't fill a direct need. Drafting him means we'll see Rozee and Duursma spend more time in the midfield. There's a lot to like about his game but it does come with risk.

Sinn as well, even though he's not a direct need would be someone that i'd love to have and he can transition into a line breaking centre midfielder as well. Goater is right up there as well as a line breaking mid. Tall, explosive. Kicking a mixed bag but he has bucket loads of potential.

My preference would be:

1: Rachele
2: Sinn
3: Sonsie
4. Goater
5: Johnson
6: Draper
7: Wanganeen-Milera
8: Van Rooyen

 

[philthy05]

The only reason Draper gets comapred to Robbie is because he can play both as a goal scoring forward and as a genuine midfielder. Other than that, their actual game style is pretty far apart. Robbie has x-factor and insane goal sense that Draper just doesn't have. Draper has a knack for kicking big goals and dragging his team into it though. He's a lot more of a marking medium forward. He's more like a Heeney than a Gray.

In terms of midfield though they are miles apart. Robbie is/was a clearance machine and was absolutely elite and being able to weave his way through traffic to get free. Draper is more a traditional get ball, kick it forward clearance type. I'm not sold on his midfield work as i've said before. His direct opponent gets a lot of the ball and a lot of clearances.

I'd be happy getting Draper.

I'd be happier with Rachele, who is a lot like a young Gray/Butters. Great goal sense, quick, damaging inside 50 and will be able to transition into the midfield.

My only real concern with Johnson is defensive pressure. He's elite around the packs but has tended to just run off and do what he wants without care for an opponent this year. But, in terms of midfield need he is exactly what we should be after. Tall, endurance, elite clearance winner, great skills, elite vision. He'd be great.

Sonsie also fits that bill. Good inside/outside mid, good skills, can play on a flank. He's the Boak clone this draft. He was neck and neck with Horne-Francis for me until about 12 months ago and whilst he's fallen down the rankings a bit, he's in that perfect range for us.

Wanganeen-Milera would also be alright but he doesn't fill a direct need. Drafting him means we'll see Rozee and Duursma spend more time in the midfield. There's a lot to like about his game but it does come with risk.

Sinn as well, even though he's not a direct need would be someone that i'd love to have and he can transition into a line breaking centre midfielder as well. Goater is right up there as well as a line breaking mid. Tall, explosive. Kicking a mixed bag but he has bucket loads of potential.

My preference would be:

1: Rachele
2: Sinn
3: Sonsie
4. Goater
5: Johnson
6: Draper
7: Wanganeen-Milera
8: Van Rooyen

Probably similar

I’m assuming ward will go top 8.

rachele / sonsie

goater
Sinn

Draper / Johnson / wanganeen- Milera

Think amiss goes around our pick and I absolutely cannot place him. Could be a quality afl player or never play a game. He’s hard to read for me. He would be great if you had multiple top 20 picks to take a punt.

Even if rachele and sonsie never became the mids they have some promise to be I think they could very well make it as small forwards anyway and see a list need for that.

 

[all seeing eye]

Really hope not. We need a pure inside mid not another outside player.

We need a centre square mid with burst clearance speed , we have inside mid bulls.

 

[powerrrrrrrrrrrr]

We need a centre square mid with burst clearance speed , we have inside mid bulls.

Should have clarified more but certainly an inside mid with burst speed is our biggest need and must be addressed with pick 12. Not any flankers or single paced mids.

 

[all seeing eye]

Should have clarified more but certainly an inside mid with burst speed is our biggest need and must be addressed with pick 12. Not any flankers or single paced mids.

Hard to find in this draft at 12. Not sure who really fits the bill , some speculative types like Goater, Sonsie who have potential and risk issues, so its going to be tricky for selection. (high risk draft with so little exposed form for Vics)

 

[Duck Farmer]

In this highlight package Johnson looks like a cross between Pendlebury and Drew.

Did he play basketball as a junior in Koroit?

 

[Enviable Tradition]

Goater looks like exactly the point of difference our midfield needs.

 

[DaTBird187]

Did he play basketball as a junior in Koroit?

Good country lad. The game slows down around him.

 

[Holden Hillbilly]

Kevin Sheehan reveals his top NAB AFL Draft Prospects: Medium forwards

AFL Talent Ambassador Kevin Sheehan reveals his top NAB AFL Draft Prospects - Medium forwards

www.afl.com.au

 

[Duck Farmer]

I'd be happier with Rachele, who is a lot like a young Gray/Butters.

Ok, I'm now on the Rachele, Rachele bandwagon.

 

[Enviable Tradition]

Ok, I'm now on the Rachele, Rachele bandwagon.

Rachelle reminds me a LOT of Monfries from his highlights.

 

[all seeing eye]

Any highlights of Goater, seems a favourite for many , but has little exposed form, bit of a late season mover. Seems everyone is basing it on his athletic test profile which was exceptional.

 

[Enviable Tradition]

Any highlights of Goater, seems a favourite for many , but has little exposed form, bit of a late season mover. Seems everyone is basing it on his athletic test profile which was exceptional.

His highlights look awesome.

 

[Adz2332]

His highlights look awesome.

Kicking is a bit meh especially for a highlights package

 

[Ford Fairlane]

https://www.afl.com.au/news/682571/...m-guide-top-draft-prospects-september-ranking

 

[all seeing eye]

Goater is a bit raw but can see why people are excited. Risk versus reward i suppose, e does however fit the bill for what we need.

 

[Addy23]

The only reason Draper gets comapred to Robbie is because he can play both as a goal scoring forward and as a genuine midfielder. Other than that, their actual game style is pretty far apart. Robbie has x-factor and insane goal sense that Draper just doesn't have. Draper has a knack for kicking big goals and dragging his team into it though. He's a lot more of a marking medium forward. He's more like a Heeney than a Gray.

In terms of midfield though they are miles apart. Robbie is/was a clearance machine and was absolutely elite and being able to weave his way through traffic to get free. Draper is more a traditional get ball, kick it forward clearance type. I'm not sold on his midfield work as i've said before. His direct opponent gets a lot of the ball and a lot of clearances.

I'd be happy getting Draper.

I'd be happier with Rachele, who is a lot like a young Gray/Butters. Great goal sense, quick, damaging inside 50 and will be able to transition into the midfield.

My only real concern with Johnson is defensive pressure. He's elite around the packs but has tended to just run off and do what he wants without care for an opponent this year. But, in terms of midfield need he is exactly what we should be after. Tall, endurance, elite clearance winner, great skills, elite vision. He'd be great.

Sonsie also fits that bill. Good inside/outside mid, good skills, can play on a flank. He's the Boak clone this draft. He was neck and neck with Horne-Francis for me until about 12 months ago and whilst he's fallen down the rankings a bit, he's in that perfect range for us.

Wanganeen-Milera would also be alright but he doesn't fill a direct need. Drafting him means we'll see Rozee and Duursma spend more time in the midfield. There's a lot to like about his game but it does come with risk.

Sinn as well, even though he's not a direct need would be someone that i'd love to have and he can transition into a line breaking centre midfielder as well. Goater is right up there as well as a line breaking mid. Tall, explosive. Kicking a mixed bag but he has bucket loads of potential.

My preference would be:

1: Rachele
2: Sinn
3: Sonsie
4. Goater
5: Johnson
6: Draper
7: Wanganeen-Milera
8: Van Rooyen

My preference would be:

1. Goater - I dont really see a clear weakness in his game and he probably suits the modern prototype midfielder really well. Tall, very agile and like you said, explodes out of packs with ease. Unfortunately, I dont expect him to be available at our pick.

2. Sonsie - You are right! He was a top 5 pick and closest to JHF this time last year but injuries and Victoria's COVID situation has made him slide down. Another inside midfielder that can kick goals from midfielder which is exactly what we need currently.

3. Wanganeen-Milera - We probably have a fair few wingers on the list in Amon, Duursma, Bonner and Bergman. But I'd like to see Bergman spend time in the centre this year and NWM could be the key that releases Bergman into midfield. In terms of NWM himself, best kick in this draft, knows his way out of a congested situation and puts the ball on a platter. Georgiades wouldnt mind it!

4. Draper - Has some serious x-factor up forward but his midfield acts are in question. He has the height to go into midfield and provide a point of difference but his career coming to fruition will depend on how he develops that body of his to suit the modern game.

Rachele and Sinn probably wont be on our radar because of our depth in those positions. Johnson, while he reminds me of Pendlebury with his clearance work and kicking, has a couple of obvious weaknesses. Van Rooyen probably too early for pick 12.