Rumour GFC 2021 Player Trading, Drafting FA, Rumours and Wish lists... Part II

[BORIS332]

I'd rather Dogs pick 23 for 32 & 50 just to get in front of picks by the Tigers x2 Crows Eagles Blues Hawks (5 teams/6 picks)

That's only 42 more points for them, absolutely no chance.

 

[BORIS332]

Ross Lyon to have on a coaching panel would be phenomenal, he has a great footy brain and has coached sides to premierships regardless of game style he wouldn't necessarily need to impart that side of things to the game plan but knowledge would be immense.

What premierships?

 

[Jumping Jack]

Are you thinking of a different Ross Lyon or something?

If they can keep him locked away from staff members in the admin department of the club (allegedly) and even further away from the younger players that he tends to rip to shreds (allegedly) then he might be ok.

We'd really need to get a clear idea of the intended role. He was renowned as a very defensive coach with a game style that didn't stand up in the ultimate test of a GF (gee that sounds familiar), so is he the right person to bring in? Perhaps / Perhaps not.

Remains to be seen if he joins Geelong - but it is well known that he's a big Scott fan and the role might attract him. But crikey - that's two giant egos in the coaches box. Could be perfect for what we need - or it could end up being very toxic.

 

[Turbocat]

If we could get Ross Lyon in ...then id think it would possibly be beneficial. I get the whole thing of him being like Chris Scott

Chris Scott

Age

49

Ht

182cm

Wt

89kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.6

4star

K

11.2

4star

HB

5.4

4star

M

5.1

5star

T

1.6

4star

G

0.4

3star

No current season stats available

D

13.2

4star

K

10.2

4star

HB

3.0

3star

M

2.2

3star

T

2.8

5star

G

0.4

3star

on steroids... coaching style etc etc... but I also think he has smarts that could help us, that him being out of the system and being able to look back on what he did, what would have helped him , and that it might be able to be someone that could convince CS that he has to change. CS might see himself in someone like Lyon ..and perhaps listen to him saying something ..like change is needed.

I dont see Lyon coming here to say get more negative, its more about lightening the load on Scott, having. a voice he will listen to and perhaps not be so bunkered down. It's another way of having a slightly different voice to scratch out a a better performance from players that have only heard Scotts voice.

 

[Shadow89]

OUT: One arrogant defensive-minded prick in Scarlett

IN: One arrogant defensive-minded prick

Good job Cats...good job.

Anyone saying 'Ross the Boss' is some 'master tactician', are the same people that thought Malthouse would be the same for Carton.

He's from a bygone era with completely different rules and a much more attacking, 'surge' mentality gamestyle courtesy of the Tigers and Dogs, coupled with the 6-6-6 rule, has replaced it.

He's a relic from a bygone era, and his ideas no no longer hold any weight in the current era.

Hardwick, Beveridge, Goodwin, Fagan, they're the coaches with the modern ideas and the adjustment to the current gamestyle. Hell, throw Nicks, Rutten, Longmuir, Longmire and Noble in there too if you like.

Bottom line is, Lyon is a has-been and his coaching 'nous' is not forward-thinking enough to be relevant in this current era. Unless he's completely reinvented himself, this caper reeks of Scott and Hocking getting another 'boys club' together, at the expense of what is best for the long-term future of our club. Hell, the Carlton board didn't even want Lyon, and here we are.

Godammit this pisses me off. He's not a good person, and shouldn't be anywhere near our club.

Rant over. Come at me Lyon lovers

 

[Gee Class Loco]

That's only 42 more points for them, absolutely no chance.

We have 3 3rd rounders next year to add to the mix or replace 30 with 32, plenty of ways to skin a cat.

 

[Danger handballs we win]

Love Ross Lyon coming to the club! If true. I understand peoples reservations but even if you think he is in Scotts mould- he is a brilliant mind and proven ability to take two playing lists to brink of success- 2009 and 2010 St Kilda were both ticks - Saints performed - no one’s perfect and to do it again with freo is good

We just need someone creativity as well so hears to hoping Kelly has a backbone and lappin steps up to take a role In tactics

Go cats


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[BORIS332]

We have 3 3rd rounders next year to add to the mix or replace 30 with 32, plenty of ways to skin a cat.

I don't think picks in next year's draft will appeal to them. As far as I know, they don't have any academy/father-sons next year, so they won't need points. They won't need to make up a draft deficit either as they're well covered for points this year.

 

[Gee Class Loco]

What premierships?

Sydney Swans midfield/assistant coach to Paul Roos in 2006 premiership team.

 

[Jackington]

An overly defensive, ugliest style of football in the 21st century coach, known for playing favourites with listed players, who is also an alleged sex pest.

What a thrill.

I will be livid if Lyon ends up at the club in any capacity. Not the culture we want.

 

[Gee Class Loco]

I don't think picks in next year's draft will appeal to them. As far as I know, they don't have any academy/father-sons next year, so they won't need points. They won't need to make up a draft deficit either as they're well covered for points this year.

They don't need to keep them... everything can be bought and on sold these days.
Everything has value.
Plenty of options Boris.

 

[Kitcat]

He's available as a DFA but I think our preference would be to rookie him so that we have more options with our senior list. There are a few mature KPD options, so I don't think it will be all that competitive to sign these guys.

If we don’t get Schenslog or Brander as DFA, they might well be taken by other clubs before we get to them in the rookie draft.

 

[BORIS332]

If we don’t get Schenslog or Brander as DFA, they might well be taken by other clubs before we get to them in the rookie draft.

Yep, they might, I personally don't really care. Lots of other options and neither have really shown that they are worth a senior list spot.

 

[Jhye Clark 13]

Not Geelong related but why would Collingwood delist a rookie only to select him again in the rookie draft?

Collingwood has also delisted rookie Isaac Chugg, but has committed to re-select him in the NAB AFL Rookie Draft.

 

[Biggy_Boy]

Not Geelong related but why would Collingwood delist a rookie only to select him again in the rookie draft?

Collingwood has also delisted rookie Isaac Chugg, but has committed to re-select him in the NAB AFL Rookie Draft.

Just gives him the freedom to explore other opportunities easily, I suppose? Can come back to them if no takers. Sort of like what we said about Constable except he's not a rookie.

 

[Chinacats]

You really do seem to confuse opinions for facts hahaha. It's not very very real it's just your opinion and going by your track record of predictions on here not a very reliable one.

At least I have an opinion.

 

[Jackington]

Not Geelong related but why would Collingwood delist a rookie only to select him again in the rookie draft?

Collingwood has also delisted rookie Isaac Chugg, but has committed to re-select him in the NAB AFL Rookie Draft.

Pretty sure players can only spend two years on the rookie list, to a maximum of three if they meet certain requirements, and have to be delisted and re-rookied if the club doesn't want to elevate them.

 

[Jackington]

Pretty sure players can only spend two years on the rookie list, to a maximum of three if they meet certain requirements, and have to be delisted and re-rookied if the club doesn't want to elevate them.

I have literally just read that the AFL extended this to four years for 2022, so now I'm as confused as you are.

 

[Chinacats]

His predictions are very reliable

Correct! Go have a look who won the cats tipping contest AGAIN this year!

 

[Jhye Clark 13]

Pretty sure players can only spend two years on the rookie list, to a maximum of three if they meet certain requirements, and have to be delisted and re-rookied if the club doesn't want to elevate them.

Ah yes, of course.

Thanks.

 

[Jackington]

Not Geelong related but why would Collingwood delist a rookie only to select him again in the rookie draft?

Collingwood has also delisted rookie Isaac Chugg, but has committed to re-select him in the NAB AFL Rookie Draft.

Upon closer inspection, it may be so they meet the minimum requirement for three drafted players, as they will sacrifice most of their selections for Daicos.

 

[Jhye Clark 13]

Correct! Go have a look who won the cats tipping contest AGAIN this year!

In a field of 1.

 

[Biggy_Boy]

OUT: One arrogant defensive-minded prick in Scarlett

IN: One arrogant defensive-minded prick (with added sexual misconduct charges to go alongside) in Ross Lyon

Good job Cats...good job.

Anyone saying 'Ross the Boss' is some 'master tactician', are the same people that thought Malthouse would be the same for Carton.

He's from a bygone era with completely different rules and a much more attacking, 'surge' mentality gamestyle courtesy of the Tigers and Dogs, coupled with the 6-6-6 rule, has replaced it.

He's a relic from a bygone era, and his ideas no no longer hold any weight in the current era.

Hardwick, Beveridge, Goodwin, Fagan, they're the coaches with the modern ideas and the adjustment to the current gamestyle. Hell, throw Nicks, Rutten, Longmuir, Longmire and Noble in there too if you like.

Bottom line is, Lyon is a has-been and his coaching 'nous' is not forward-thinking enough to be relevant in this current era. Unless he's completely reinvented himself, this caper reeks of Scott and Hocking getting another 'boys club' together, at the expense of what is best for the long-term future of our club. Hell, the Carlton board didn't even want Lyon, and here we are.

Godammit this pisses me off. He's not a good person, and shouldn't be anywhere near our club.

Rant over. Come at me Lyon lovers

Getting a has-been coach from a bygone era seems fitting for our list at the moment. Our coaching appointments seem to be following our on-field recruiting strategy.

We seem intent on not developing or retaining youth, so another guy who has issues dealing with younger players is surely the way to go...

 

[Chinacats]

In a field of 1.

You were in it or did you give up after round 6?
How’s chook these days? I guess I predicted that incorrectly too? Let it go godfather!

 

[cats_09]

Ross Lyon to have on a coaching panel would be phenomenal, he has a great footy brain and has coached sides to premierships regardless of game style he wouldn't necessarily need to impart that side of things to the game plan but knowledge would be immense.

Which sides has Lyons coached to premierships - is that in the VFL?