List Mgmt. 2021 draft pool.

[Lore]

 

[Bojangles17]

If it pans out like that I'd take Andrew

What’s wrong with MJ , we won’t take andrew that early

 

[This Is Anfield]

Was talking to some people today who were very bullish about a guy called Charlie Dean, he had a terrible combine and went to Williamstown where he blitzed, apparently… anyone know anything about him?

 

[Rubber Hips]

Ahem….maybe ask his fiancé before/whilst he hooked up with his current wife …..


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If true….shit happens…he is happily married now …wasn’t meant to be with his fiancé…but Degoey is a flog of the highest order…no doubt about it

 

[Rubber Hips]

Was talking to some people today who were very bullish about a guy called Charlie Dean, he had a terrible combine and went to Williamstown where he blitzed, apparently… anyone know anything about him?

I havent heard about your son Mrs Dean…do you have any footage?

 

[This Is Anfield]

I havent heard about your son Mrs Dean…do you have any footage?

Lol…

 

[sregit]

7 too early?

Many would say 7 is too early to take Sinn, however, if Callaghan , Ward and Hobbs are gone I think Sinn is as good as any of the other midfielders mentioned. I’ve seen him in a couple of school games plus one TAC and he’s a player who can outrun just about anyone. He holds the Xavier college sprint record, he’s A 50m+ kick and I think if he lasts to our second pick would be an absolute steal. If we can’t get one of the three I mentioned earlier, yes I’d take him with our first.

 

[ForeverHardcore]

After compiling our best 22 with a depth chart

I can see why many on here are questioning going inside mids and whether they’re different then what we have

Team
Grimes Tarrant Short
Vlastuin Balta Rioli
Mcintosh Martin Edwards
Lambert Lynch Castagna
Bolton Riewoldt Stack
Nank Cotch Prestia

Graham Broad Baker Soldo

depth
Defenders Miller Biggy Mansell

mids RCD Ross Dow Martyn

Wings/Hybrid small/medium forwards Pickett Caddy Ralphsmith Aarts Parker Cumberland Rioli jnr

Rucks Ryan Colina

Tall forwards- Zilch

Can see us targeting a general defender in Wilmot or T Brown if available in the 20’s or hooefulky

What do you guys think we’ll do putting your draft hats on with this list? Does it change wanting Hobbs to a degree having decent inside depth? Or is it important to target the replacements for Cotch and Titch and Jack now. Must say the 22 looks magnificent having Soldo back to help around the clearances which was a major issue hit outs wise. We’ll be much better around the ball with him back in next year and with Dusty spending more time in there imo.

What do we actually need most? I’m kind of put off getting Rachelle with the mix of general forwards and depth we have. It’s important we keep next years first round pick when it looks like the kpp’s will be much stronger.

 

[YeOldTiger]

Many would say 7 is too early to take Sinn, however, if Callaghan , Ward and Hobbs are gone I think Sinn is as good as any of the other midfielders mentioned. I’ve seen him in a couple of school games plus one TAC and he’s a player who can outrun just about anyone. He holds the Xavier college sprint record, he’s A 50m+ kick and I think if he lasts to our second pick would be an absolute steal. If we can’t get one of the three I mentioned earlier, yes I’d take him with our first.

Missed 10 weeks early this year with a hamstring. 18yo speedsters who do serious, early hammys is a red flag imo.

 

[YeOldTiger]

Charlie Dean won the Round/Fothergill for best young player (u21) in the VFL I believe. Tall forward. Late or rookie pick.

 

[sregit]

Missed 10 weeks early this year with a hamstring. 18yo speedsters who do serious, early hammys is a red flag imo.

Agree. It is a concern and I’m sure the club will take it into account. On talent I actually rate Sinn higher than all early picks after Callaghan and Ward. There are no doubt safer picks in this draft.

 

[Blinger]

Agree. It is a concern and I’m sure the club will take it into account. On talent I actually rate Sinn higher than all early picks after Callaghan and Ward. There are no doubt safer picks in this draft.

Sinn, from what I have read would be a steal at 15, he was rated top 3 at the start of season. With lack of footy this season, might be a very smart pick up for whoever gets him

 

[Stylo]

Charlie Dean won the Round/Fothergill for best young player (u21) in the VFL I believe. Tall forward. Late or rookie pick.

Defender. Solid one too. Seems ready to go. Would like with a later selection (if we somehow have one)

 

[Judd2Sewell]

Fellas, just interested in hearing your opinions regarding draft targets - I'm doing a mock draft on our board and I'm representing Richmond.

What are areas of need? I'm assuming midfield is a key area to address.

 

[Rioli2Rioli]

Fellas, just interested in hearing your opinions regarding draft targets - I'm doing a mock draft on our board and I'm representing Richmond.

What are areas of need? I'm assuming midfield is a key area to address.

7 - best available
15 - Goater / Johnson
26/27/28 - Mid mid mid

 

[Phar Ace]

Many would say 7 is too early to take Sinn, however, if Callaghan , Ward and Hobbs are gone I think Sinn is as good as any of the other midfielders mentioned. I’ve seen him in a couple of school games plus one TAC and he’s a player who can outrun just about anyone. He holds the Xavier college sprint record, he’s A 50m+ kick and I think if he lasts to our second pick would be an absolute steal. If we can’t get one of the three I mentioned earlier, yes I’d take him with our first.

Agree - won't be there for our second pick (15) I reckon, so we could do a lot worse!

 

[Simche]

After compiling our best 22 with a depth chart

I can see why many on here are questioning going inside mids and whether they’re different then what we have

Team
Grimes Tarrant Short
Vlastuin Balta Rioli
Mcintosh Martin Edwards
Lambert Lynch Castagna
Bolton Riewoldt Stack
Soldo Cotch Prestia

Graham Broad Baker Soldo

depth
Defenders Miller Biggy Mansell

mids RCD Ross Dow Martyn

Wings/Hybrid small/medium forwards Pickett Caddy Ralphsmith Aarts Parker Cumberland Rioli jnr

Rucks Ryan Colina

Tall forwards- Zilch

Can see us targeting a general defender in Wilmot or T Brown if available in the 20’s or hooefulky

What do you guys think we’ll do putting your draft hats on with this list? Does it change wanting Hobbs to a degree having decent inside depth? Or is it important to target the replacements for Cotch and Titch and Jack now. Must say the 22 looks magnificent having Soldo back to help around the clearances which was a major issue hit outs wise. We’ll be much better around the ball with him back in next year and with Dusty spending more time in there imo.

What do we actually need most? I’m kind of put off getting Rachelle with the mix of general forwards and depth we have. It’s important we keep next years first round pick when it looks like the kpp’s will be much stronger.

Nothing about the 'depth' midfielders illustrates that we should not be taking 3+ mids from our picks and best available for the rest. Ross has been a bit part player, RCD has not shown signs he can be better than a B grade workhorse, Dow and Martyn too early to tell but one is a worry with disposal and the other looked significantly off the pace in his debut. Those 'depth' players are not going to sustain a level that Cotchin, Prestia, Edwards et al were able to achieve. That is why it is critical to bring in quality kids now to give them a year of protection and development.

Soldo won't solve our clearance issues. Having a more competitive ruck helps, but even in the games Nankervis played, it is the blokes listed as 'depth' that largely started and gave up huge clearance differentials along with some of the older brigade being unable to get back to previous standards.

In my opinion the best developing mids we have for the 3+ year horizon are Baker and Bolton. I am not sure either is going to be capable of playing full games there without rotating onto a flank which means the side needs blokes that can get first use of the pill and deliver it.

While arguably the side needs to turn its mind to key forwards and backs, Lynch still has plenty of footy left in him, Balta is a 10 year lock and it is not as much of a pressing need to remain competitive in the now. Sides have also shown that you can be competitive for a flag with a great midfield and average KPP stocks (see Dogs defenders and forwards bar Naughton, Collingwood was hugely competitive for the 2018-20 period with no forward line, we won 2017 with a fleet of smalls etc).

 

[SthMelb Tigers]

After compiling our best 22 with a depth chart

I can see why many on here are questioning going inside mids and whether they’re different then what we have

Team
Grimes Tarrant Short
Vlastuin Balta Rioli
Mcintosh Martin Edwards
Lambert Lynch Castagna
Bolton Riewoldt Stack
Soldo Cotch Prestia

Graham Broad Baker Soldo

depth
Defenders Miller Biggy Mansell

mids RCD Ross Dow Martyn

Wings/Hybrid small/medium forwards Pickett Caddy Ralphsmith Aarts Parker Cumberland Rioli jnr

Rucks Ryan Colina

Tall forwards- Zilch

Where is Nankervis?

 

[Profop]

Where is Nankervis?

He’s got Soldo twice so I assume one of them is meant to be Nank

 

[SumTingWong]

Check out the comments in the new Zac Taylor highlights video on youtube


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11 minutes ago
Sydney fans watch Austin and Ally in bikinis.

 

[tigs2010]

Check out the comments in the new Zac Taylor highlights video on youtube


3 minutes ago
WHY is football using WIRED GATES. Animals run into WIRED GATES. The AFL is RUINING the ENVIRONMENT. It is sick. In 50 years this planet will be RUINED because of issues like this. #BanFootball
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11 minutes ago
Sydney fans watch Austin and Ally in bikinis.

wot?

 

[Roksman]

Zac Taylor looks like he could be the steal of the draft if he lasts until the 20's.

Very slight but that disposal and speed looks elite. Will probably start as a small forward before he puts on some size.

 

[Rubber Hips]

Defender. Solid one too. Seems ready to go. Would like with a later selection (if we somehow have one)

reads the play well…reminds me a bit of Broad

 

[YeOldTiger]

So, with Victoria now out of lockdown is there any reason a Vic Metro v Vic Country trial game or games couldn't be played between now and the draft (still three weeks away) ?

I see training and evaluation sessions are being arranged but why not play ? The WA and SA kids have had a real advantage this year being able to play.

Footy-starved Vic prospects could get final chance to shine

The AFL is exploring the prospect of holding skills and testing sessions for Victorian draft prospects, a week ahead of the draft

www.afl.com.au

 

[sregit]

Nothing about the 'depth' midfielders illustrates that we should not be taking 3+ mids from our picks and best available for the rest. Ross has been a bit part player, RCD has not shown signs he can be better than a B grade workhorse, Dow and Martyn too early to tell but one is a worry with disposal and the other looked significantly off the pace in his debut. Those 'depth' players are not going to sustain a level that Cotchin, Prestia, Edwards et al were able to achieve. That is why it is critical to bring in quality kids now to give them a year of protection and development.

Soldo won't solve our clearance issues. Having a more competitive ruck helps, but even in the games Nankervis played, it is the blokes listed as 'depth' that largely started and gave up huge clearance differentials along with some of the older brigade being unable to get back to previous standards.

In my opinion the best developing mids we have for the 3+ year horizon are Baker and Bolton. I am not sure either is going to be capable of playing full games there without rotating onto a flank which means the side needs blokes that can get first use of the pill and deliver it.

While arguably the side needs to turn its mind to key forwards and backs, Lynch still has plenty of footy left in him, Balta is a 10 year lock and it is not as much of a pressing need to remain competitive in the now. Sides have also shown that you can be competitive for a flag with a great midfield and average KPP stocks (see Dogs defenders and forwards bar Naughton, Collingwood was hugely competitive for the 2018-20 period with no forward line, we won 2017 with a fleet of smalls etc).

Nicely put together. I agree and that's why I think the club should pull out all stops and trade up to get Callaghan or Ward. We have champions that are going to need replacing and these types usually come early in drafts.

 

[RobsJourney]

Nothing about the 'depth' midfielders illustrates that we should not be taking 3+ mids from our picks and best available for the rest. Ross has been a bit part player, RCD has not shown signs he can be better than a B grade workhorse, Dow and Martyn too early to tell but one is a worry with disposal and the other looked significantly off the pace in his debut. Those 'depth' players are not going to sustain a level that Cotchin, Prestia, Edwards et al were able to achieve. That is why it is critical to bring in quality kids now to give them a year of protection and development.

Soldo won't solve our clearance issues. Having a more competitive ruck helps, but even in the games Nankervis played, it is the blokes listed as 'depth' that largely started and gave up huge clearance differentials along with some of the older brigade being unable to get back to previous standards.

In my opinion the best developing mids we have for the 3+ year horizon are Baker and Bolton. I am not sure either is going to be capable of playing full games there without rotating onto a flank which means the side needs blokes that can get first use of the pill and deliver it.

While arguably the side needs to turn its mind to key forwards and backs, Lynch still has plenty of footy left in him, Balta is a 10 year lock and it is not as much of a pressing need to remain competitive in the now. Sides have also shown that you can be competitive for a flag with a great midfield and average KPP stocks (see Dogs defenders and forwards bar Naughton, Collingwood was hugely competitive for the 2018-20 period with no forward line, we won 2017 with a fleet of smalls etc).

On the one hand I agree with basically all of what you are saying, but I do remember that players can also turn a corner, so I wanna stay optimistic. Edwards was borderline spud for a good chunk of his early years and turned into an absolute star that got even better in our premiership seasons. So it can turn around. Ross, RCD and Dow have shown enough to say they could be players if persevered with.

However, we have a window open so my opinion remains that we need quality young mids now that are better than those mentioned, ready to step into the senior 22 now and improve it, as well as being 12+ year players for us in the long run. So if we can get Ward or Hobbs then we look good for next season. I'm also optimistic Cotchin will markedly improve with a full preseason to refresh and without the captaincy on his shoulders.