List Mgmt. 2021 draft pool.

[Lore]

 

[Rioli2Rioli]

Ellis, Lennon, Higgins, RCD, Dow, I have some hope for the last two but doing what your advocating this is the sum of 6 first round picks. Hasn’t exactly set us up for the future.

I’d trade them all for a decent midfielder. So I see no reason not to trade any two first round picks to get a player we want. Picks are over rated.


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Ellis & Lennon were bad selections and pre Matty Clarke
Higgins will be a 250 game player and proven he is AFL quality
RCD / Dow its way too early to tell specially covid years

Riewoldt #13
Rance #18
Vlastuin #9
Bolton #29
Balta #25


Do the work get the picks right , Specially in our position where we need to get some positions covered

 

[Stylo]

I’ve watched all RCDs games and for all the stats that have been presented only once did I think he had a positive impact in a game. You know as well as I do that stats can just blur the actual truth. Don’t pull out the bullshite ‘did he run over the dog etc’.

Did he hold his position in the team? No he didn’t! So the match committee sent RCD back to the Reserves because he wasn’t up to the standard. He has this year to cement himself in the side. Will you still be defending him at years end if we’ve see little improvement in his performances?

man I think you're expecting too much of him honestly. he was always going to take time as a high ceiling project type. need to be patient
I agree it's important he shows improvement next year but def wouldn't be calling for his head if he's still not 100% established. I'd give him min 2 more years

 

[THE THIN MAN]

Take the 5 picks to the draft and back our recruitment team.

 

[NZ_Tiger]

Ellis & Lennon were bad selections and pre Matty Clarke
Higgins will be a 250 game player and proven he is AFL quality
RCD / Dow its way too early to tell specially covid years

Riewoldt #13
Rance #18
Vlastuin #9
Bolton #29
Balta #25


Do the work get the picks right , Specially in our position where we need to get some positions covered

Rance and Riewoldt? That was nearly 15 years ago!

Bolton and Balta weren’t first round picks and prove that we can find talent later in the draft but can’t seem to find it in the first round. Even more reason to trade our first rounders to get up the board, as we will find a player or two later on.

I don’t rate Higgins, and am not sorry he left, just somewhat regret that we didn’t bargain harder.


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[Ancient Tiger]

Rance and Riewoldt? That was nearly 15 years ago!

Bolton and Balta weren’t first round picks and prove that we can find talent later in the draft but can’t seem to find it in the first round. Even more reason to trade our first rounders to get up the board, as we will find a player or two later on.

I don’t rate Higgins, and am not sorry he left, just somewhat regret that we didn’t bargain harder.


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Disagree with your reasoning. The current recruiting team haven't had extremely early picks to judge them on. You are also saying that pick 25 or so is late in the draft. It isn't. It is an early to mid second rounder. We have 3 picks in a row at the moment just after that. I wouldn't call them late too. Three in a row really will let them pick up both solid players and reserve one for a player with real X factor. This is the draft that we will really see how good our relatively new recruiting team is. They have had limited viewing of the Vic boys too. They will have to use their imagination to see who they see will be a player in the future.

 

[richoatthedisco]

Not dissimilar to Corey Ellis for sure.

I'm not sure you know who Tyler Sonsie is.

 

[Rioli2Rioli]

Rance and Riewoldt? That was nearly 15 years ago!

Bolton and Balta weren’t first round picks and prove that we can find talent later in the draft but can’t seem to find it in the first round. Even more reason to trade our first rounders to get up the board, as we will find a player or two later on.

I don’t rate Higgins, and am not sorry he left, just somewhat regret that we didn’t bargain harder.


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The response was to our current talent identification and being able to select the required talent with our current picks
Im happy to trade picks to move up but not to sell the farm

 

[Mr Unbelievable]

I'm not sure you know who Tyler Sonsie is.

Keyser Soze ?

 

[Mr Unbelievable]

FFS … hurry up, where is the draft

 

[Bird Man]

FFS … hurry up, where is the draft

think its online

 

[Wrenny]

How long is a piece of string?

Twice, half it's length.

 

[guruisatiger]

How long is a piece of string?
But
With news that Lambert has taken him under his wing to get his tank and work rate up to AFL midfield standard I’ll be the first to call his piss weak heart out if he doesn’t make it

Answer satisfied?

I’m backing him in tho, cmon RCD activate beast mode

do you have the piece ofstring???? if so then measure it

 

[Phar Ace]

do you have the piece ofstring???? if so then measure it

 

[Lord of the Wings]

I'm not sure you know who Tyler Sonsie is.

Im not too sure u do either

 

[TigerTime88]

was convinced in the moment that Carlton had traded ahead of us to nab him. Lel

Should be concerned when Carlton recruiters are keen on the same player.

 

[tigs2010]

was convinced in the moment that Carlton had traded ahead of us to nab him. Lel

We got Stockered

 

[guruisatiger]

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I love that meme so clever
Thanks

 

[richoatthedisco]

Im not too sure u do either

I'm not the one calling him slow, mate. Do you also think he can't kick left foot?

 

[Noidnadroj]

I’ve come around to selecting Mac Andrew IF Hobbs, Gibcus, Callaghan and Ward are all gone. I believe we can get similar types at 15 and late 20’s beyond those guys, but we aren’t getting a Mac Andrew opportunity then. We can get a ready made mid or two at our 2-5th picks.

I know he’s a slight risk and will take time, but they said the same about Luke Jackson

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Luke Jackson

Age

24

Ht

199cm

Wt

102kg

Pos.

F/R

Career

Season

Last 5

D

8.3

2star

K

3.3

1star

HB

5.0

4star

M

1.5

2star

T

1.0

3star

G

0.3

3star

D

8.3

2star

K

3.3

1star

HB

5.0

3star

M

1.5

2star

T

1.0

2star

G

0.3

3star

D

8.3

3star

K

3.3

2star

HB

5.0

4star

M

1.5

2star

T

1.0

3star

G

0.3

3star

who is already a star and looks like an inspired choice at pick-3.

If Mac Andrew develops as you’d hope he can help transform your entire team’s fortunes. I just don’t feel Rachele, Sinn, Erasmus provide the enormous upside that Andrew does. Mac Andrew looks like he will be an A-grade version of Chol and CCJ.

And 1-2 years of VFL development is perfect given the age profile of Nank and Soldo.


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[Simche]

I’ve come around to selecting Mac Andrew IF Hobbs, Gibcus, Callaghan and Ward are all gone. I believe we can get similar types at 15 and late 20’s beyond those guys, but we aren’t getting a Mac Andrew opportunity then. We can get a ready made mid or two at our 2-5th picks.

I know he’s a slight risk and will take time, but they said the same about Luke Jackson who is already a star and looks like an inspired choice at pick-3.

If Mac Andrew develops as you’d hope he can help transform your entire team’s fortunes. I just don’t feel Rachele, Sinn, Erasmus provide the enormous upside that Andrew does. Mac Andrew looks like he will be an A-grade version of Chol and CCJ.

And 1-2 years of VFL development is perfect given the age profile of Nank and Soldo.


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Luke Jackson wasn't a risk at all. He was drafted at 94kg and is now around the 100kg mark so was about as ready to go as big blokes get. The only knock was whether he was going to be able to play significant time in the ruck first up, but his forward craft was good enough.

Andrew is 70kg. He isn't a 1-2 year development prospect. He's a 3-5 year prospect and he doesn't have the forward craft to be a senior selection in the next 2 years (where we are supposed to be contending). He also doesn't help us address our midfield clearance issues in the short term.

Nankervis is 27 and Soldo is 25. I do not see how having another ruck arrive in 2-3 years helps us in the slightest.

 

[Profop]

Luke Jackson wasn't a risk at all. He was drafted at 94kg and is now around the 100kg mark so was about as ready to go as big blokes get. The only knock was whether he was going to be able to play significant time in the ruck first up, but his forward craft was good enough.

Andrew is 70kg. He isn't a 1-2 year development prospect. He's a 3-5 year prospect and he doesn't have the forward craft to be a senior selection in the next 2 years (where we are supposed to be contending). He also doesn't help us address our midfield clearance issues in the short term.

Nankervis is 27 and Soldo is 25. I do not see how having another ruck arrive in 2-3 years helps us in the slightest.

Been reported that he's 80kg now. If he's the standout talent at our selection I hope we take him.

 

[tiger_tough]

Best available.

 

[Noidnadroj]

Luke Jackson wasn't a risk at all. He was drafted at 94kg and is now around the 100kg mark so was about as ready to go as big blokes get. The only knock was whether he was going to be able to play significant time in the ruck first up, but his forward craft was good enough.

Andrew is 70kg. He isn't a 1-2 year development prospect. He's a 3-5 year prospect and he doesn't have the forward craft to be a senior selection in the next 2 years (where we are supposed to be contending). He also doesn't help us address our midfield clearance issues in the short term.

Nankervis is 27 and Soldo is 25. I do not see how having another ruck arrive in 2-3 years helps us in the slightest.

Mac Andrew has put on 10Kg and is now listed at 79Kg. I should have said Jackson was a surprise selection and a risk to go as high as 3. Any big bloke is a risk. And Nank is injury prone and Soldo coming back from a knee. I think it’s great list management to have a fully developed ruck/fwd ready to go when those guys are late 20’s.

I’ve said I’d only take him if those others are gone. And why can’t we address midfield deficiencies with our other picks ?

202cm gifted athletes with great skills don’t come around too often. Mid-sized flankers or midfielders are a dime a dozen.

I can’t think of many 200cm+ gifted athletes who have been busts … a few on current lists:

Luke Jackson
King brothers
Nik Cox (199)
NicNat

Add in the fact he’s highly skilled I think bypassing him could end up being a big mistake. I just can’t see him not developing into at least a very good player.


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[Lord of the Wings]

I'm not the one calling him slow, mate. Do you also think he can't kick left foot?

The surest thing to be a bust in the draft this year.

 

[Oshka]

Think we’ll draft Hobbs, the spud.