Golden State Warriors thread - All Star 5

[Marcel Proust]

Does moody get traded or just keep him rotting

 

[Kramer1]

Does moody get traded or just keep him rotting

We're 15 games in...pump the brakes mate...

 

[Marcel Proust]

We're 15 games in...pump the brakes mate...

Yeah but Poole lee gp2 look good and that klay guy

Chiozza gets more of a run not ideal

 

[Kramer1]

Yeah but Poole lee gp2 look good and that klay guy

Chiozza gets more of a run not ideal

It's a first world problem...our mature bench guys are playing well, not many rookies would be getting minutes ahead of them.

 

[Kramer1]

Quick 2019 re-do...where does Jordan Poole go?

 

[fidstar]

A lot higher, but you see guys like Poole a lot. For every one of them that goes on for good careers, there's many that flame out of the league.

Hope he can get some consistency, because he has a lot of natural attributes.

 

[Islanda22]

Warriors Starters/Depth

PG - Curry/Chioza
SG - Klay/Poole/Lee/Moody
SF - Wiggins/Iggy/Kuminga
PF - Dray/Porter jr/Toscano-Anderson
C - Wiseman/Looney/Bjelica

 

[Kramer1]

A lot higher, but you see guys like Poole a lot. For every one of them that goes on for good careers, there's many that flame out of the league.

Hope he can get some consistency, because he has a lot of natural attributes.

Yeah I don't know...biggest thing is his movement, with and without the ball. You don't see that a lot...if he stays hungry he still has plenty of scope to grow.

Today's big question...is Wiggins worth his contract? He's the 27th best paid in the league...he must be around that mark at present, not many better two way wings .

 

[fidstar]

He's definitely not worth his contract, but he's been very good.

 

[Islanda22]

Yeah I don't know...biggest thing is his movement, with and without the ball. You don't see that a lot...if he stays hungry he still has plenty of scope to grow.

Today's big question...is Wiggins worth his contract? He's the 27th best paid in the league...he must be around that mark at present, not many better two way wings .

He's definitely not worth his contract, but he's been very good.

This season he is worth the $31M

Top 10 Contracts (Average Salary) at SF in NBA:

1. Leonard - $44M (Inactive)
2. LeBron - $42.8M (22.8p/5.0r/6.1a)
3. Durant - $41M (28.6p/7.9r/4.9a)
4. Harris - $36M (20.6p/8.3r/4.1a)
5. Middleton - $35.5M (18.3p/5.1r/5.0a)
6. Butler - $35M (25.1p/5.6r/5.4a)
7. Ingram - $31.6M (22.5p/6.5r/4.6a)
8. Hayward - $30M (17.7p/5.1r/3.5a)
9. Wiggins - $29.5M (19.1p/4.3r/1.6a)
10. Barnes - $21.2M (19.9p/7.5r/2.5a)

The way he is playing I think he is worth every cent considering blokes like Middleton and Hayward are on more and done a lot less this season then Wiggins.

 

[Kramer1]

This season he is worth the $31M

Top 10 Contracts (Average Salary) at SF in NBA:

1. Leonard - $44M (Inactive)
2. LeBron - $42.8M (22.8p/5.0r/6.1a)
3. Durant - $41M (28.6p/7.9r/4.9a)
4. Harris - $36M (20.6p/8.3r/4.1a)
5. Middleton - $35.5M (18.3p/5.1r/5.0a)
6. Butler - $35M (25.1p/5.6r/5.4a)
7. Ingram - $31.6M (22.5p/6.5r/4.6a)
8. Hayward - $30M (17.7p/5.1r/3.5a)
9. Wiggins - $29.5M (19.1p/4.3r/1.6a)
10. Barnes - $21.2M (19.9p/7.5r/2.5a)

The way he is playing I think he is worth every cent considering blokes like Middleton and Hayward are on more and done a lot less this season then Wiggins.

SF is pretty stacked...I'd say he sits about right on that list. You would expect a slow build from Middleton coming off a chip, a gold medal and some injury niggle...he's still levels above Wiggins.

League wide though there are plenty earning more and delivering less. As an expiring next year he'll certainly be a positive asset, though unlikely we'd be looking to trade as it stands.

 

[fidstar]

It's so weird winning games when Steph doesn't play well.

 

[Pistol Night]

It's so weird winning games when Steph doesn't play well.

Its probably likely to happen when the opponents singular focus is to stop him and forget the other 4 on the court

 

[fidstar]

Worked for other teams last year!

Warriors are actually +2.7pp 100 possessions this year when he sits.

Been negative for every season of his career before this year other than 17/18.

 

[Kramer1]

Scoring leader, MVP favourite, career best defense, and fastest ever to 100 3s...I think we can nudge him up to an A.

 

[Marcel Proust]

SF is pretty stacked...I'd say he sits about right on that list. You would expect a slow build from Middleton coming off a chip, a gold medal and some injury niggle...he's still levels above Wiggins.

League wide though there are plenty earning more and delivering less. As an expiring next year he'll certainly be a positive asset, though unlikely we'd be looking to trade as it stands.

Wiggins is a gun. Wake up.

Middleton has been s**t too.

Warriors will be bonkers with Wiseman and klay.

 

[Kramer1]

Wiggins is a gun. Wake up.

Middleton has been sh*t too.

Warriors will be bonkers with Wiseman and klay.

Weird. I feel like I've only recently posted that AW may be worth his $30m/year...

That's on the most recent trip around the goldfish bowl mind you...

 

[Marcel Proust]

Weird. I feel like I've only recently posted that AW may be worth his $30m/year...

That's on the most recent trip around the goldfish bowl mind you...

8th in the mvp ratings yes he may be worth his salary.

Almost an ideal 3rd option when klay returns

 

[Marcel Proust]

This season he is worth the $31M

Top 10 Contracts (Average Salary) at SF in NBA:

1. Leonard - $44M (Inactive)
2. LeBron - $42.8M (22.8p/5.0r/6.1a)
3. Durant - $41M (28.6p/7.9r/4.9a)
4. Harris - $36M (20.6p/8.3r/4.1a)
5. Middleton - $35.5M (18.3p/5.1r/5.0a)
6. Butler - $35M (25.1p/5.6r/5.4a)
7. Ingram - $31.6M (22.5p/6.5r/4.6a)
8. Hayward - $30M (17.7p/5.1r/3.5a)
9. Wiggins - $29.5M (19.1p/4.3r/1.6a)
10. Barnes - $21.2M (19.9p/7.5r/2.5a)

The way he is playing I think he is worth every cent considering blokes like Middleton and Hayward are on more and done a lot less this season then Wiggins.

Harris almost 40m dam

 

[Kramer1]

Almost an ideal 3rd option when klay returns

No arguments here

 

[fidstar]

Updated for 21 games

Curry - B+ (Previous C)
Green - B+ (B+)
Looney - B (A)
Wiggens - B+ (B-)
Poole - B+ (B-)

Lee - C+ (A)
Porter - A- (A-)
Iggy - C (B)
JTA - C+ (C-)
Bjelica - B (A+)
Payton - A (A)
Moody - No grade (No grade)
Kuminga - C (No grade)
Chris Chiozza - C (Nograde)

 

[Kramer1]

Shocker from Steph. Games like that is where Wiseman would be handy...a scoring big to change tack when the shots aren't dropping

Poole and Steph just can't seem to get it going in the same game.

 

[fidstar]

I don't think I've seen Steph miss so many layups.

 

[Kramer1]

Any minor upgrades with the trade window not far away?

Nothing really springs to mind...potentially two starters to return, all the bench guys are contributing, and all the Wiggins talk has cooled. No incentive to trade Kuminga or Moody as no glaring holes to fill.

Could upgrade Chiozza who is actually seeing some minutes, but not losing sleep over it.

Wait and see what buyout season brings.

 

[fidstar]

Our offense is in a bit of a funk, but our defence is keeping us in games.