You mean lazy and laconic?Is Rankine ever going to play higher up the ground do you think? Like a Jack Martin type?
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You mean lazy and laconic?Is Rankine ever going to play higher up the ground do you think? Like a Jack Martin type?
Powell Collins lemmens
Markov day/Thompson ballard
Ellis swallow bowes
Ainsworth chol luko
Rankine King sexton
Witts miller Rowell
Fiorini weller hollands Anderson
Budarick/farrar pressing for a spot in the back 6
Sharp and hopefully atkins is fitter for wing back up
Corbett and Jeffery putting pressure on the fwds
Flanders probably stiff but pushing into the mid/fwd as soon as there's an injury.
Burgess our Mr fix it.
I did forget holman, he is a coaches favourite for what he does defensively in the fwd halfThat's a good side, but there would be limited forward pressure.
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If Noah is 192 I must be 199I saw one of our posters mention concerns about the perceived lack of height in our midfield after Greenwood's departure but I'm not sure it's something we should really be concerned about. Let's compare the players Craig Cameron said would be playing in our midfield in 2022 with a consistent top 4 team over the last three years in Brisbane:
Brisbane's Top 8 Mids
- Dayne Zorko - 175cm
- Lachie Neale - 178cm
- Zac Bailey - 182cm
- Jarryd Lyons - 184cm
- Mitch Robinson 184cm
- Hugh McCluggage - 185cm
- Cameron Rayner - 186cm
- Jarrod Berry - 192cm
Our Future Top 8 Mids (according to Craig Cameron)
I think our mids listed above match up really well with Brisbane in terms of height. If anything, we're actually taller than the Lions and height hasn't been an issue for them at all over the last three years while they've been a consistent top 4 team. Obviously a guy like Brandon Ellis (181cm) is going to be selected in the midfield ahead of someone like Hollands in round 1 next year but that could change pretty quickly when the talented younger guys get their chance next year. Quality shouldn't be an issue either considering our players above include a current All Australian, four top 10 draft picks and three other first round picks. Hard to argue with that midfield quality.
- Touk Miller - 178cm
- Matt Rowell - 180cm
- Sam Flanders - 183cm
- Brayden Fiorini - 186cm
- Jack Bowes - 187cm
- Elijah Hollands - 189cm
- Alex Davies - 191cm
- Noah Anderson - 192cm
I don't think the height is the issue. It's the experience in the middle.I saw one of our posters mention concerns about the perceived lack of height in our midfield after Greenwood's departure but I'm not sure it's something we should really be concerned about. Let's compare the players Craig Cameron said would be playing in our midfield in 2022 with a consistent top 4 team over the last three years in Brisbane:
Brisbane's Top 8 Mids
- Dayne Zorko - 175cm
- Lachie Neale - 178cm
- Zac Bailey - 182cm
- Jarryd Lyons - 184cm
- Mitch Robinson 184cm
- Hugh McCluggage - 185cm
- Cameron Rayner - 186cm
- Jarrod Berry - 192cm
Our Future Top 8 Mids (according to Craig Cameron)
I think our mids listed above match up really well with Brisbane in terms of height. If anything, we're actually taller than the Lions and height hasn't been an issue for them at all over the last three years while they've been a consistent top 4 team. Obviously a guy like Brandon Ellis (181cm) is going to be selected in the midfield ahead of someone like Hollands in round 1 next year but that could change pretty quickly when the talented younger guys get their chance next year. Quality shouldn't be an issue either considering our players above include a current All Australian, four top 10 draft picks and three other first round picks. Hard to argue with that midfield quality.
- Touk Miller - 178cm
- Matt Rowell - 180cm
- Sam Flanders - 183cm
- Brayden Fiorini - 186cm
- Jack Bowes - 187cm
- Elijah Hollands - 189cm
- Alex Davies - 191cm
- Noah Anderson - 192cm
Is Rankine ever going to play higher up the ground do you think? Like a Jack Martin type?
Sharp in for Greenwood and rearrangeBallard ~ Collins ~ Lemmens
Bowes ~ Day ~ Powell
Weller ~ Greenwood ~ Ellis
Witts ~ Anderson ~ Miller
Rankine ~ Lukosius ~ Flanders
Sexton ~ King ~ Chol
Swallow ~ Ainsworth ~ Rowell
Hollands
Budarick, Corbett, Sharp, Fiorini, Jeffery, Holman, Burgess, Farrer, Markov
I know I joked in another thread about doing this very early, but why not?
AFL:
W.Powell - S.Collins - S.Lemmens
O.Markov - S.Day - C.Ballard
B.Ellis - M.Rowell - J.Sharp
J.Corbett - M.Chol - B.Ainsworth
I.Rankine - B.King - D.Swallow
J.Witts - T.Miller - B.Fiorini
J.Lukosius - N.Anderson - J.Bowes - L.Weller
SUB - N.Holman
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VFL:
J.Farrar - R.Thompson - C.Burgess
B.Uwland - S.Brock - C.Budarick
R.Atkins - C.Constable - E.Hollands
M.Rosas - L.Causbolt - S.Flanders
A.Sexton - M.Andrew - J.Jeffrey
N.Moyle - N.Freeman - A.Davies
J.Mclennan - R.Nicholls - M.Conroy - P.Murtagh - C.Graham - H.Oea - D.Macpherson
First of many attempts no doubt, that VFL team will do some damage, so much height though haha.
if I’m being ruthless who are certainties for best 22 IMO.
- witts, Miller, Anderson, Ellis, lukosius, powell, lemmens, collins, Ballard.
Only these 9 are absolute certainties in my opinion.
Yes just left Kingy out accidentally! He’s clearly the number 1 picked.I agree with a lot of what you said. Spots are tight and depth is looking healthier than it possibly ever has. For me, King is an absolute lock as well though. Still, most of the team is up for grabs!
Also, I want the following players to “level up” (think Will Powell’s sudden leap this year) and take ownership of us winning: Ainsworth and Weller. Ainsworth does everything except kick for goals accurately (good run, good burst speed and endurance, good mark, links up for assists etc.) and Weller needs to find more of the ball to use his damaging kick or his dash to break lines. Both are close to being the players we picked them to be and need to make themselves best 22 locks.
Bowes and Fiorini are the other two, although their position is going to become hotly contested with Constable (and possibly Freeman coming into the team) so their growth is important for them as individuals, but could be replaced by other players for the team if they don’t develop how we want.
However, these 23yo+ players have to step up and support Miller, Swallow, Ellis, Collins and Witts and lead us and the young kids up the ladder.
Lachie Weller needs to get involved as often as possible and have the ball in his hands front half of the ground. A beautiful kick and threat for goal anywhere inside 55m.I agree with a lot of what you said. Spots are tight and depth is looking healthier than it possibly ever has. For me, King is an absolute lock as well though. Still, most of the team is up for grabs!
Also, I want the following players to “level up” (think Will Powell’s sudden leap this year) and take ownership of us winning: Ainsworth and Weller. Ainsworth does everything except kick for goals accurately (good run, good burst speed and endurance, good mark, links up for assists etc.) and Weller needs to find more of the ball to use his damaging kick or his dash to break lines. Both are close to being the players we picked them to be and need to make themselves best 22 locks.
Bowes and Fiorini are the other two, although their position is going to become hotly contested with Constable (and possibly Freeman coming into the team) so their growth is important for them as individuals, but could be replaced by other players for the team if they don’t develop how we want.
However, these 23yo+ players have to step up and support Miller, Swallow, Ellis, Collins and Witts and lead us and the young kids up the ladder.
Feels great to have options.
list certainly feels a bit more balanced IMO.
AFL worthy options in each role. Plus some flexibility across these roles (ie Flanders inside mid
KPD: collins, Ballard, Thompson, brock, Graham
KPF: king, chol, Corbett, Jeffrey, casboult
Key utilities: day, burgess, Andrew’s, murtagh
Ruck: witts, moyle, Conroy
running defenders: Powell, markov, uwland, farrar, Nicholls
Lockdown smalls: lemmens, budarick, McLennan
linking half forwards: Ainsworth, lukosius, Weller, Hollands, oea
Pressure forwards: Holman, flanders, macpherson, rosas
crumbers: sexton, rankine
Inside mids: rowell, swallow, bowes, constable, Davies
Outside mids: Ellis, sharp, atkins
Balanced mids: Miller, Anderson, fiorini
if I’m being ruthless who are certainties for best 22 IMO.
- king, witts, Miller, Anderson, Ellis, lukosius, powell, lemmens, collins, Ballard.
Only these 10 are absolute certainties in my opinion.
Competition for spots up for grabs.
some questions to be answered in pre-season
1. can Sam Dayplay in defencePLAYERCARDSTART12Sam Day
- Age
- 31
- Ht
- 196cm
- Wt
- 106kg
- Pos.
- Fwd
CareerSeasonLast 5
- D
- 9.8
- 2star
- K
- 5.2
- 2star
- HB
- 4.6
- 3star
- M
- 3.5
- 4star
- T
- 1.8
- 4star
- G
- 0.7
- 4star
- D
- 8.0
- 2star
- K
- 3.6
- 1star
- HB
- 4.4
- 3star
- M
- 1.9
- 2star
- T
- 1.5
- 2star
- G
- 0.9
- 4star
- D
- 8.6
- 3star
- K
- 3.2
- 2star
- HB
- 5.4
- 4star
- M
- 3.0
- 3star
- T
- 0.8
- 3star
- G
- 0.2
- 3star
PLAYERCARDEND
Just feeling a bit dubious that he has the strength in a marking contest to take the big guys - lynch, McKay, Hawkins, Dixon etc..
Or the lateral mobility to play on the secondary targets - cameron, Marshall, darling, membrey, himmelburg, hip wood.
I’d only feel ok with him playing on a bigger athletic type that tends to fly for marks rather than beating their opponent with strength or mobility and movement - Logan McDonald, Daniher, Wright, Bruce, Taberner, larkey, mihocek - these kind of guys.
I’m not sure his mobility is what it was when previously played there. can he move laterally??
2. can we find a balance up forward?
King, chol, Corbett, luko, Ainsworth, rankine, sexton seems potent offensively but not quite with the pressure. How to fit Holman and Flanders and who misses out.
3. what condition some of returning injured players
Witts is critically important. An acl for a 110kg 29 year old..got to take it easy.
is Thompson any chance of playing and does he still have his athleticism? Be massive if so but seems unlikely.
4. Can chol build on his promising 2021
playing as a dedicated forward with another recognised ruckman he played quite well in a few games 2021. Was quiet in others. Having him consistently fly for Marks with confidence toeither mark or create crumbs will be massive for our scoring potential if he can bring this.hopefully more maturity and experience = consistency for him.
5. Midfield set up
We know Miller, rowell, Anderson are going to spend a lot of time in there. Swallow will be given minutes too. Where dos that leave Bowes, Flanders, fiorini and where else do they play when not in the guts.
5. our new faces
super excited to see hollands andrews and brock in particular in action.
If Thompson makes it back to regular top level AFL football I will be astounded.If Thompson can find his way back to being best 22 key defender then that would be massive for the structure of the team.
Imagine the damage Collins can do as an interceptor if he can be released onto the 2nd best forward and potentially venturing up to half back more often to start our rebounds.
If Thompson makes it back to regular top level AFL football I will be astounded.
He last played senior Football in July 2018.
If he gets back next year that's the best part of 4 years since his last game
That's like 20 years in AFL time.
If he does that as a 31yo there's probably a movie script waiting to be written
Can anyone think of another player who's come back and played top flight footy after that long out at his age?
I wish him all the best but have very low expectations
FB 2022 | Lachie Weller | 26 / 116 | Sam Collins | 27 / 59 | Sean Lemmens | 27 / 114 |
FB 2021 | Connor Budarick | 19 / 15 | Sam Collins | 26 / 40 | Sean Lemmens | 26 / 93 |
HB 2022 | Wil Powell | 22 / 57 | Charlie Ballard | 22 / 69 | Oleg Markov | 25 / 40 |
HB 2021 | Jack Bowes | 23 / 59 | Charlie Ballard | 21 / 48 | Oleg Markov | 24 / 23 |
C 2022 | Brandon Ellis | 28 / 210 | Noah Anderson | 21 / 37 | Jeremy Sharp | 20 / 11 |
C 2021 | Brandon Ellis | 27 / 192 | Hugh Greenwood | 29 / 68 | Jack Lukosius | 20 / 38 |
R 2022 | Jarrod Witts | 29 / 122 | Touk Miller | 26 / 138 | Matt Rowell | 20 / 17 |
R 2021 | Jarrod Witts | 28 / 119 | Touk Miller | 25 / 117 | Matt Rowell | 19 / 5 |
HF 2022 | Ben Ainsworth | 24 / 74 | Jack Lukosius | 21 / 60 | David Swallow | 29 / 175 |
HF 2021 | David Swallow | 28 / 154 | Sam Day | 28 / 137 | Lachie Weller | 25 / 103 |
FF 2022 | Izak Rankine | 21 / 30 | Ben King | 21 / 53 | Sam Flanders | 20 / 21 |
FF 2021 | Izak Rankine | 20 / 12 | Ben King | 20 / 31 | Darcy McPherson | 23 / 51 |
INT 2022 | Nick Holman | 26 / 71 | Jack Bowes | 24 / 78 | Mabior Chol | 25 / 31 |
INT 2021 | Will Brodie | 22 / 20 | Alex Sexton | 28 / 133 | Wil Powell | 21 / 35 |
INT 2022 | Elijah Hollands | 19 / 0 | ||||
INT 2021 | Noah Anderson | 20 / 17 |
Average Age | Difference | Average Games | Difference | ||
Back Line | 2021 | 24.83 | 75.83 | ||
2020 | 23.17 | 1.67 | 46.33 | 29.50 | |
MidField | 2021 | 24.00 | 89.17 | ||
2020 | 24.67 | (0.67) | 89.83 | (0.67) | |
Forward Line | 2021 | 22.67 | 68.83 | ||
2020 | 24.00 | (1.33) | 81.33 | (12.50) | |
Interchange | 2021 | 23.50 | 45.00 | ||
2020 | 22.75 | 0.75 | 51.25 | (6.25) |
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I don't mind the side but you've left out the captain and 3 players from last years top 10 B+F.Best 22 updated
AFL
B C.Ballard S.Collins W.Powell
HB L.Weller C.Burgess J.Bowes
C B.Ellis B.Fiorini J.Sharp
HF B.Ainsworth J.Lukosious J.Corbett
F I.Rankine B.King A.Sexton
FOLL: J.Witts N.Anderson T.Miller
INTER: M.Rowell, M.Chol, O.Markov, S.Flanders
Emergencies
D.Swallow, S.Lemmens, A.Davies, C.Budarick, J.Jeffery, E.Hollands, N.Holman,
M.Rosas, C.Graham, J.Farrar, N.Moyle, M.Andrew, L.Casboult, D.McPherson