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People are also saying "well the people who died were bad people" as if it somehow justifies it. He didn't ******* know that.
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Well it kinda has been okay for quite some time now."well if it's self defence it's okay"
that would be a concerning escalation that hopefully doesn’t occur.and then either bait people or completely misconstrue what constitutes a threat.
The SRP thread on this is disintegrating over the premise you’re inferring. Proper judicial process v racism. Fair to say it is polarising.Anyone else a bit concerned by the ramifications of Rittenhouse being found not guilty?
Well it kinda has been okay for quite some time now.
that would be a concerning escalation that hopefully doesn’t occur.
The SRP thread on this is disintegrating over the premise you’re inferring. Proper judicial process v racism. Fair to say it is polarising.
So I thought I’d ask my cousin, as he spent a decade living in Tennessee. His thoughts were that racism is rife and institutional, almost at the point where it’s irrevocable. But noted that your mindset over there is vastly different.
Here you can leave home in the morning for work, not lock the front door and good chance no one robs you. But over there the prevalence of guns has everyone on edge, distrusting and fearful.
So he wasn’t willing to fully discredit self defence because you do really live frightened of what the person next to you will do.
His wife is a lawyer and said also that proving guilt in a self defence v cold blooded scenario is one of the harder things for prosecution to do. Have to convince 12 people who also live in the same society built on fear that it was cold blood.
Not discounting or refuting your concerns over racial based outcomes. Just adding extra context.
Was not the point I was making - it was a direct lead into the rest of my comment.Well it kinda has been okay for quite some time now.
Does this apply here? Rittenhouse crossed state lines with an AR-15.you do really live frightened of what the person next to you will do.
You don't think there will be copycats?
My concern is people will see this and think "well if it's self defence it's okay" and then either bait people or completely misconstrue what constitutes a threat.
Americans will do stupid things regardless of the verdict.
Each case has to be trialled on its own merits and a verdict certainly shouldnt be based off what public sentiment will be.
People are also saying "well the people who died were bad people" as if it somehow justifies it. He didn't ******* know that.
Does this apply here? Rittenhouse crossed state lines with an AR-15.
Tracking the Suspect in the Fatal Kenosha Shootings (Published 2020)
Footage appears to show a teenager shooting three people during protests in Wisconsin. We tracked his movements that night.www.nytimes.com
Does it not count?
I also query why he has an AR, but that leads into a bigger discussion about why the gun lobby is so strong that AR’s aren’t banned. But that chronological list of events on NY Times appears to show that his actions were in self defence even if you could and should ask what he was doing there and why he had an automatic rifle.
We can’t approach this with an Australian mindset, they are allowed to carry guns. For whatever ill conceived reason he carried a gun across state lines, and who knows it may have been the spark to the tinderbox that led to the other participants firing shots and behaving aggressively. He’s not a completely innocent man in this.
But whatever his reasons were the NY Times seem to show that he was being attacked.
Which would then be easier to prove? Self defence by the defence attorney or First Degree Intentional Homicide by the prosecution? Note: the importance of the word intentional.
Not really. It's America. Most of them are ****ed in the head / brainwashed. This kind of s**t isn't new.Anyone else a bit concerned by the ramifications of Rittenhouse being found not guilty?
Dare say if the GG sacks you then the title of worst PM is yours. Literally deemed unfit for office.The other day on twitter Mike Carlton asked on Twitter if Sco-Mo has done one good thing for Australia since becoming PM.
I honestly can't think of one, he is not the worst PM we have ever had (Tones Abbott wears that crown) but probably the most useless and ineffectual. Just a turnip.
Yeah, I am not sure there is much I can think of.The other day on twitter Mike Carlton asked on Twitter if Sco-Mo has done one good thing for Australia since becoming PM.
I honestly can't think of one, he is not the worst PM we have ever had (Tones Abbott wears that crown) but probably the most useless and ineffectual. Just a turnip.
So you think the following achievements are not noteworthy..Dare say if the GG sacks you then the title of worst PM is yours. Literally deemed unfit for office.
Not really. It's America. Most of them are f’ed in the head / brainwashed. This kind of sh*t isn't new.
Don’t think it’ll ever happen. I have a cousin in NJ and asked him why he has a gun and he was surprised i asked. Said he needs it for self defence as most others have a gun. Not sure how you break that circle/cycle.It's never gonna happen but the gun lobby needs to gtfo and look at bringing in tighter gun control laws.
So you think the following achievements are not noteworthy..
Dragged Aus out Vietnam & abolished conscription
Introduced Medibank
Free Uni fees
Supporting mothers benefit
Welfare payment for homeless
Legal Aid
Provide needs based funding for govt schools
Introduce family law act
Racial discrimination act
National Gallery and Heritage Comm
Opened talks with China just before US did
Rated in many polls amongst best PMs…meanwhile …
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Don’t think it’ll ever happen. I have a cousin in NJ and asked him why he has a gun and he was surprised i asked. Said he needs it for self defence as most others have a gun. Not sure how you break that circle/cycle.
Was a throwaway line. As SM said a lot of good forgotten in history due to some monumental stuff ups.So you think the following achievements are not noteworthy..
Dragged Aus out Vietnam & abolished conscription
Introduced Medibank
Free Uni fees
Supporting mothers benefit
Welfare payment for homeless
Legal Aid
Provide needs based funding for govt schools
Introduce family law act
Racial discrimination act
National Gallery and Heritage Comm
Opened talks with China just before US did
Rated in many polls amongst best PMs…meanwhile …
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Held out for 20 months but looks like me and son have both got Covid. Just waiting for PCR confirmation, both tested positive on a lateral flow.
Have to reschedule my booster if it does turn out positive, and miss Everton, PSG and West Ham.
No symptoms from either of us yet, although I'm freezing at moment (I've always tended to feel the cold more than most).
George Zimmerman followed Trayvon Martin from a convenience store into a park and shot him until he died. His defence was Martin was wearing a hoodie and therefore was dangerous so it was self defence / stand your ground.Imagine self defense shootings are common place in America with gun laws being the way they are and a population of 300m plus. This one was just publicized more for various reasons.
It's never gonna happen but the gun lobby needs to gtfo and look at bringing in tighter gun control laws.
Imagine self defense shootings are common place in America with gun laws being the way they are and a population of 300m plus. This one was just publicized more for various reasons.
It's never gonna happen but the gun lobby needs to gtfo and look at bringing in tighter gun control laws.
Thanks, all been fine so far. Just a bit boring not being able to leave the house.Wishing you and your son a quick recovery. While our immunity to symptomatic infection may wane over time, current evidence suggests the memory B cell response (the thing that stops us from becoming severely unwell once infected) remains pretty robust and durable for most people.
You could watch the Liverpool v United game, then City v United and then Watford v United to raise your spiritsThanks, all been fine so far. Just a bit boring not being able to leave the house.
Symptoms definitely on the mild side for me, and none for the lad.