Current Trial Wonnangatta - Russell Hill & Carol Clay vanish *Pilot Greg Lynn charged with murder

[Kurve]

Disappearance of Barwon Prison Boss David Prideaux - High Country Mount Stirling
Hit and Run Death of Bryce Airs - High Country Jamieson

Israel Keyes

On the Greg Lynn committal proceedings Crown Prosecutor Mr Dickie said 'It is clear hopefully from the document, and if it's not clear from the document it's clear hopefully from the charges put before the court, that it is alleged of course that the accused acted with murderous intent when he allegedly killed the two victims.'

 

[sarasass]

Could you tell us more about her and how she perished?

I won't post here. Feel free to PM me.

 

[Zidane98]

It is a long shot to suggest he was involved in any other disappearances but they now have his DNA!!

Speculation of that without any real link could beused by his legal defence as prejudicial against him couldn't it?

 

[MiguelM]

Speculation of that without any real link could beused by his legal defence as prejudicial against him couldn't it?

Yep, I was replying to the inference of the other disappearances.

We should not speculate any further on that in here IMO.

 

[footscray1973]

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Not sure if that story has any substance, and as some of you have indicated, hopefully stories/claims like this don't contribute to prejudicial claims by his defence, but some media outlets are now going to generate click-bait speculative pieces ad-nauseum I suspect.

 

[Anja_Nees]

I know many people who knew Lisa, I really hope they open her case again as a result of this.

I’m guessing a few were sceptical of the findings of the inquiry?

 

[rdhopkins2]

Lynn faced court via video link this morning. Did not apply for bail. Remanded in custody until next appearance in May.

Unlikely to win bail facing murder charges but still. I wonder if his lawyer told him don’t bother to apply or whetherhe outright instructed his lawyer not to apply for bail.

 

[Dogs_R_Us]

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Not sure if that story has any substance, and as some of you have indicated, hopefully stories/claims like this don't contribute to prejudicial claims by his defence, but some media outlets are now going to generate click-bait speculative pieces ad-nauseum I suspect.

This is the new "journalism" and why you should take most news items with a pinch of salt until verified. Even then, often not all the facts are publicised. Narratives are pushed by parts of the media and differing views are frowned upon (or worse).

/rant

 

[Dogs_R_Us]

Lynn faced court via video link this morning. Did not apply for bail. Remanded in custody until next appearance in May.

Unlikely to win bail facing murder charges but still. I wonder if his lawyer told him don’t bother to apply or whetherhe outright instructed his lawyer not to apply for bail.

Do they enter a plea at this stage?

 

[Bunk Moreland]

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Not sure if that story has any substance, and as some of you have indicated, hopefully stories/claims like this don't contribute to prejudicial claims by his defence, but some media outlets are now going to generate click-bait speculative pieces ad-nauseum I suspect.

Article suggests she died of suicide via alcohol and pills.

 

[Zidane98]

Article suggests she died of suicide via alcohol and pills.

Won't be too long before the coppers suppress this sort of stuff as Lynn's lawyer is likely to use it as prejudicial against his / her client.

 

[Bunk Moreland]

Won't be too long before the coppers suppress this sort of stuff as Lynn's lawyer is likely to use it as prejudicial against his / her client.

Perhaps. That is a closed case however and there's no new evidence he had any involvement.

 

[Pamcake1]

So he did tell them where and apparently they are buried.

Daily Fail article;
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Victorian Police Assistant Commissioner Bob Hill said police had been provided 'specific' information as to where to find the burial site within the Great Alpine region.

But even with detailed information on a burial site, police have said it will take days to prepare for the dig in what is some of the most rugged terrain on the planet.

It is understood detectives only received the information on the likely location on Thursday morning, with police making a preliminary scout of the rugged terrain. "

Jetstar pilot accused of murdering campers finally goes to court

The Jetstar pilot charged with murdering two elderly campers has appeared in court charged with their murder more than 20 months after they vanished.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[Anja_Nees]

So he did tell them where and apparently they are buried.

Daily Fail article;
"
Victorian Police Assistant Commissioner Bob Hill said police had been provided 'specific' information as to where to find the burial site within the Great Alpine region.

But even with detailed information on a burial site, police have said it will take days to prepare for the dig in what is some of the most rugged terrain on the planet.

It is understood detectives only received the information on the likely location on Thursday morning, with police making a preliminary scout of the rugged terrain. "

Jetstar pilot accused of murdering campers finally goes to court

The Jetstar pilot charged with murdering two elderly campers has appeared in court charged with their murder more than 20 months after they vanished.

www.dailymail.co.uk

He probably emailed a mate asking him to move the bodies and accidentally copied the detectives.

 

[Zidane98]

So he did tell them where and apparently they are buried.

Daily Fail article;
"
Victorian Police Assistant Commissioner Bob Hill said police had been provided 'specific' information as to where to find the burial site within the Great Alpine region.

But even with detailed information on a burial site, police have said it will take days to prepare for the dig in what is some of the most rugged terrain on the planet.

It is understood detectives only received the information on the likely location on Thursday morning, with police making a preliminary scout of the rugged terrain. "

Jetstar pilot accused of murdering campers finally goes to court

The Jetstar pilot charged with murdering two elderly campers has appeared in court charged with their murder more than 20 months after they vanished.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Couldn't be too far off a track, he is not the biggest bloke and it would take considerable effort to move the bodies. But with a likely location shouldn't be too long before remains are found at least which gives closure to the families.

It sounds like there has been a full admission which spares the family a pain of being dragged through a trial.

 

[MiguelM]

Couldn't be too far off a track, he is not the biggest bloke and it would take considerable effort to move the bodies. But with a likely location shouldn't be too long before remains are found at least which gives closure to the families.

It sounds like there has been a full admission which spares the family a pain of being dragged through a trial.

You would have to think they are in pretty shallow graves, tough terrain to dig, though he might have had time if he had the bodies in trailer for a while and a totally different location?

 

[craigos]

He actually sold the trailer on Gumtree?!

Not a bad trailer to be honest. Had to clean up a few rust holes and give it a new coat of paint but works well.

 

[Pamcake1]

Also;

Ex of Jetstar pilot accused of murdering campers died of drug overdose

Lisa Lynn had consumed a large amount of pills and vodka when she was found dead at her Mount Macedon home, 64 kilometres north-west of Victoria, in 1999.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[Zidane98]

Not a bad trailer to be honest. Had to clean up a few rust holes and give it a new coat of paint but works well.

Comes with 3 coats of paint to prevent rusting. White, Blue & Beige.

 

[footscray1973]

Not a bad trailer to be honest. Had to clean up a few rust holes and give it a new coat of paint but works well.

Is the drone he threw in for free still working?

 

[Anja_Nees]

You would have to think they are in pretty shallow graves, tough terrain to dig, though he might have had time if he had the bodies in trailer for a while and a totally different location?

Given he was spotted speeding off around midnight, he probably would have had a good few hours in the dark if he needed it, and he’d be conscious of animals digging them up.

My guess is not far off the road, but probably along an obscure track so no one would disturb him digging, and probably at least say a foot of soil or more.

 

[Zidane98]

Is the drone he threw in for free still working?

Shovel thrown in pretty blunt apparently.

 

[footscray1973]

Given he was spotted speeding off around midnight, he probably would have had a good few hours in the dark if he needed it, and he’d be conscious of animals digging them up.

My guess is not far off the road, but probably along an obscure track so no one would disturb him digging, and probably at least say a foot of soil or more.

Have had to bury various stock animals over the years, early days when I was still a recent regional arrival from the city, I tried a few in shallow graves (a foot or less) only to find foxes dug them up repeatedly. Learned the hard way to ensure several feet as a minimum. Given this guy's bush experience, I suspect he'd be aware of that too - I'm guessing the soil in those parts would be moist if shaded, although might dry out a bit over summer into March, but I think you're right, if you're burying bodies for concealment, the deeper the better. Given some of his other decisions though, what frame of mind was he in at the time - calm enough to take his time with a burial, or frantic to bury them and get out of there?

 

[Anja_Nees]

Have had to bury various stock animals over the years, early days when I was still a recent regional arrival from the city, I tried a few in shallow graves (a foot or less) only to find foxes dug them up repeatedly. Learned the hard way to ensure several feet as a minimum. Given this guy's bush experience, I suspect he'd be aware of that too - I'm guessing the soil in those parts would be moist if shaded, although might dry out a bit over summer into March, but I think you're right, if you're burying bodies for concealment, the deeper the better. Given some of his other decisions though, what frame of mind was he in at the time - calm enough to take his time with a burial, or frantic to bury them and get out of there?

I’m just impressed he didn’t leave them in the trailer at this point.

 

[Alberto_Magnifico]

Have had to bury various stock animals over the years, early days when I was still a recent regional arrival from the city, I tried a few in shallow graves (a foot or less) only to find foxes dug them up repeatedly. Learned the hard way to ensure several feet as a minimum. Given this guy's bush experience, I suspect he'd be aware of that too - I'm guessing the soil in those parts would be moist if shaded, although might dry out a bit over summer into March, but I think you're right, if you're burying bodies for concealment, the deeper the better. Given some of his other decisions though, what frame of mind was he in at the time - calm enough to take his time with a burial, or frantic to bury them and get out of there?

Really heavy shale (in the hills) and cobble (in the valleys) all throughoht that area, digging a substantial hole with any depth would be extremely difficult.
Almost no black soil up there, unless youre on the peaty plains.
Source: I poop a lot in the bush

 

[Anja_Nees]

If he had some sense (big if) he might have poured some petrol on the bodies or rolled rocks on top to ward off critters I suppose.