List Mgmt. Contracts, trades, draft - 2021 offseason edition

[Keys]

So the 2021 season is officially done and dusted.

It’s time now to fully turn our attention to the off season and what we can do through the trade period/draft to chase down Melbourne in 2022.

List and personnel changes have already been made and I’ll update this OP as and when any further changes are made.

As it stands these are our official list changes :

Out -
• Venables (R) - retired
• Vardy - retired
• Hutchings (R) - delisted
• Ah Chee (R) - delisted
• Ainsworth - delisted
• Johnson - delisted
• Collins (R) - delisted
• Brander - cluster*
• Cameron - retired/delisted not that it was officially acknowledged by the club
• Sheppard - retired

Inactive listed -
• Cole
• Chesser

In -
• Petrevski-Seton - traded for pick 52
• Chesser - Pick 14
• Hough - Pick 31
• Bazzo - Pick 37
• Williams (Jack) - Pick 57
• Clark - Pick 62
• Dixon - SSP
• Joyce - SSP
• Strnadica - SSP
• Naish - SSP

Players on main list - 37 (Including 2 inactive)
Players on rookie list - 7

Future trade picks :
In - Port Adelaide future 2nd
Out - Future 4th

Assistant Coaches :
• Out - Graham, Hickmott
• In - Schofield (Strategy and Stoppage), Knights (Midfield), Wiley (WAFL coach), Brennan (development)

Link to contract status of all players -

The Contracts Thread

Updated (20/3/24) the status of all contracts for people’s reference : Overall List - 44 Players : Main List(37), Rookie List(5), Cat B(2) Contracted until the end of 2027 (2) : Tom Barrass (8/10/95) - Signed a 5 year extension (2023,2024,2025,2026,2027) on an existing contract set to...

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[Obeanie1]

Stephen Wells, because we'd actually draft the elite WA talent under our noses.

Hmmmmmm. That would be interesting!

Wouldnt work as Wells has been recruiting for a 'destination club' for every third Victorian free agents who becomes available. Don't get that at the Eagles do we?

Doesn't have a great strike rate with 1st rounders because they rarely have them. Now 2nd round picks.......the guy knows his ****!

 

[Dark Sharks]

Reckon we'll snare a mature depth ruckman today.

It'd be the sensible play.

Although maybe they just risk it with Nicnat and the Williams, Jamo coverage we've got this year?



Worst case we can pick one up during the mid season draft, IF Sheppard actually does retire.

 

[Chris_6678]

It'd be the sensible play.

Although maybe they just risk it with Nicnat and the Williams, Jamo coverage we've got this year?



Worst case we can pick one up during the mid season draft, IF Sheppard actually does retire.

Rather we did it during the pre-season and have a WAFL ruckman train with us over the summer with Nic nat to see if he is up to it and then draft in Ruckman if Shep hangs the boots up/

 

[RookiePick]

Saying the reason we drafted him was not simply for next year is not implying that he won't be played or be integral next year. We said the same thing about Kelly, it just means they consider him to have plenty of strong football left and that is the fundamental basis for the selection. If you really want to be cynical, you could maybe say the statement is to dilute any notion that we are "all in" on next year, but "WTaF would you bother drafting a 24 year old if you don't intend to play him?" is not a very strong comprehension and reads like you just want to be aggrieved.

I am aggrieved. It's symptomatic of the muddled thought processes at the club.

Why not say Clark brings a mature body to build depth in the midfield but the club sees Clark contributing over a number of seasons?

 

[amazingjoshy]

AFL Draft 2021 - Every club's draft haul rated (espn.com.au)

D+ lol

"The selection of Chesser makes sense with West Coast lacking outside run, but it's worth noting that he has struggled this season and others have arguably develop past him."

I mean he's technically correct, though mentioning that he barely played due to an injury might be worthwhile

 

[dinnaz]

Doesn't every list management team make mistakes?

How does the Eagles list management compare to other clubs?

Which other clubs list manager would you be happy with?

Not Adelaide and I'd stay away from Scott Clayton wherever he is

 

[amazingjoshy]

God i hope they don't want to interview each rookie between picks

What's the bet we do something anticlimactic like rookie ben Johnson

Rookie draft normally flies through (in previous years anyway)

 

[2006_Eagles]

Money is on we take a complete random lol

Definitely a de listed Geelong nobody

 

[The_Gambler]

I think Jack Williams might end up being the steal of the draft for us.
Watching this kid play in the ruck and up forward he was able to do it all.
I honestly didnt see a huge difference in him and amiss that went top 10

Agree. Basically 10 goals difference

 

[RookiePick]

Money is on we take a complete random lol

I have been waiting for someone to joke that ROB is a recruiter from Wish because I think he is a recruiter from Make a Wish. So many completely random picks that are surely just trying to fulfil boyhood dreams for folks with a loose association to the club somewhere along the line.

 

[Obeanie1]

Not Adelaide and I'd stay away from Scott Clayton wherever he is

And the current crowd at the Suns.

Freo? Well they have the easiest job in list management. Crap team and players leaving means they win the draft every year!

 

[JoshWoodenSpoon]

I am aggrieved. It's symptomatic of the muddled thought processes at the club.

Why not say Clark brings a mature body to build depth in the midfield but the club sees Clark contributing over a number of seasons?

I haven't actually heard ROB's comments on the Clark selection beyond the paraphrasal posted in here "Clark could play next year but that's not why they drafted him", which seems not worth melting over.

Other *ery like him being posed as a defender, go for your life!

 

[Dark Sharks]

Any of these today would be nice.


Srnadica - List management box ticked with proper #1 ruck depth. Naitanui cliff approaching and we still have no viable alternative.


Fejo - Rawest of raw talents, but the potential upside for this would be HUUUUUGE. Sells more candy than the candyman, and has Jetta's footskills.


Dittmar - God knows we need some more midfield depth, particularly young midfield depth, and mullet goes hard and won't leave any stone unturned.


Charlie Dean - Probably unlikely as we've just got Bazzo, but i really rate this fella. Outstanding in the VFL up against men. Won the trophy for best young player.

 

[shooshka]

Pretty sure thats from the guy who didnt rate Chesser in the top 70 players.

And said he hadn't seen him play, and that others have gone past him in the past couple of years.

Both of those items are pretty much due to 2019 COVID and 2020 injury.

Of course it's a reach taking a guy who has played 6 games in 2 years - but it seems a lot of clubs rated him in the top 25 - considering he was rated around 10-ish at the start of the season there aren't that many players that have gone past him!

 

[swingdog]

That's because Knightmare does not rate Chesser at all, helped by the fact that I'm pretty sure he said in his draft thread that he's never actually seen him live due to covid.

Given he's played 6 games in 2 years, has anyone?

 

[shooshka]

Any of these today would be nice.


Srnadica - List management box ticked with proper #1 ruck depth


Fejo - Rawest of raw talents, but the potential upside for this would be HUUUUUGE. Sells more candy than the candyman, and has Jetta's footskills.


Dittmar - God knows we need some more midfield depth, particularly young midfield depth, and mullet goes hard and won't leave any stone unturned.


Charlie Dean - Probably unlikely as we've just got Bazzo, but i really rate this fella. Outstanding in the VFL up against men. Won the trophy for best young player.

As players, I agree any one of the 4 would be great (and it is a pretty comprehensive list of who we should be looking at if we have a retirement, Shep, and a SSP slot opens up). But I don't think Dean or to a lesser extent Fejo would be great picks for us. Dean becomes 5th banana key defence - 4 is plenty. Fejo we've just got 2 outside leaning mids (one mid/fwd, one mid/hbf) - it's kind of why the board is still in semi-meltdown and that may tip us over!

Dittmar and Srnadica both address needs for us, so either should be a priority. If it is a ruck we take today (Srnadica or other) and if Shep retires (sadly), then if Dittmar and/or Fejo are undrafted we should definitely look at them as SSP players.

 

[bzparkes]

Given he's played 6 games in 2 years, has anyone?

Oi, don't steal my joke from yesterday.

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

So who banked and who invested in the future?

Suns are big winners for 2022 as are Sydney
Eagles, Tigers Cats have strengthened their future hands
Dockers Saints and Adelaide look to have used a big part of next year

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

Updated prior to Rookie and Cat B additions



Make your mind up on what we need. I usually highlight the fact that we don't have a starting midfielder that will be under 27 come season end but what would I know, I obviously have hidden our midfielder in my flank and utility category.

With multiple Edwards and Williams and a Jones, the list is starting to look like the Welsh Rugby team. All we need an Evans

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

Here is a snapshot of what the starting B22 (expecting injured players excluded) and the Beagles line up might look like. No need to argue what I have in or out the Best 22, it is more for where are our gaps and overlap



Edit: Update for Petch in the pocket (previous double up with XON listed twice)

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

With Regan, Lawson and Farmer still eligible as Cat B, it will be interesting to see if we draft in as Cat B. Especially Lawson given possible Sheppard rumour

 

[paran]

Both want it ........... both deserve it.

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All very interesting choices, each with merit and each brings a different skill set.

Having already taken Clark, I would suggest that Rogers misses out.

As for the two Sharks.... tough call .

But suggest our recruiters take Browne.

For me I take the tall streak of Blue and White.

24 next year 203 cm 103 kg.

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I happen to think this kid is an untapped gem, his ruck craft has come on leaps and bounds, I age myself here, but I see a Scott Wynd like trajectory with him.

I'd like to take some combo of Dittmar, Stradnica and Rogers. Don't mind Browne but prefer the others. Woiuld like to see Regan picked up as well.

 

[Get_The_Gaff]

So who banked and who invested in the future?

Suns are big winners for 2022 as are Sydney
Eagles, Tigers Cats have strengthened their future hands
Dockers Saints and Adelaide look to have used a big part of next year

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Freo will be fine they will lose another highly rated player and get a good pick

 

[Get_The_Gaff]

With Regan, Lawson and Farmer still eligible as Cat B, it will be interesting to see if we draft in as Cat B. Especially Lawson given possible Sheppard rumour

Did we even nominate any .

 

[Forward Press]

So who banked and who invested in the future?

Suns are big winners for 2022 as are Sydney
Eagles, Tigers Cats have strengthened their future hands
Dockers Saints and Adelaide look to have used a big part of next year

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Excellent chart.

I guess Freo are banking on their current crop to come good and/or next year's draft being weak.

Personally I don't understand the angst about Freo's drafting - it was always going to be a better haul than us. There are reasons why they had multiple picks in the top 20...