List Mgmt. Adelaide Crows 2021 List Management thread

Will the Crows pick up any of these players in the off-season?

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70lethal said:
Our list is even younger this year.
To get to 11 wins we would need to improve our percentage by 20% approx or 3 goals per game and we would be knocking at the 8 which I think is a big ask.
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On Paper our list is younger this year, but this is one of those times that "stats lie". We should be fielding a more experienced side each week on the park.

Our team will hopefully be more experienced than our 2021 squad.

On Paper we lost Talia (0), Lynch (12), Mackay (17), Kelly (20), Gibbs (0). So we lost 49 games from experienced players in 2021 which in theory should be replaced by Crouch, Milera, Dawson and Luke Brown playing more than 11 games. Add in all the games we got into younger players and our match day team should be a more experienced unit than 2021. The quality of Crouch, Milera and Dawson is a huge upgrade on 2021 Lynch, Kelly, Gibbs.
 
DJ75 said:
I'm not expecting much from Milera or Crouch. Both are going to take time to get to their best, or even to be influential in a game. I see them as 'bonus' players. Don't factor them in and if they do come through and are ready to play, then it is a nice bonus, but not something I'm banking on.
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Fair assessment.

Crouch is more of a worry for me. Hip Surgery in 2020, Groin Surgery in May of 2021 and then another surgery in October of 2021. Gonna be tough for him to come back. The Crouch Bros are injury plagued, but also do have a history of coming back strong.
 
AFC979810 said:
On Paper our list is younger this year, but this is one of those times that "stats lie". We should be fielding a more experienced side each week on the park.

Our team will hopefully be more experienced than our 2021 squad.

On Paper we lost Talia (0), Lynch (12), Mackay (17), Kelly (20), Gibbs (0). So we lost 49 games from experienced players in 2021 which in theory should be replaced by Crouch, Milera, Dawson and Luke Brown playing more than 11 games. Add in all the games we got into younger players and our match day team should be a more experienced unit than 2021. The quality of Crouch, Milera and Dawson is a huge upgrade on 2021 Lynch, Kelly, Gibbs.
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On the other side Pedlar, Cook, Rachele should play and only 5 games between them.
Hinge is another that only has 6 games to his name that could start.
Milera and Dawson only at 60 games so as far as experience not super high.
Does Murphy get a game as our 11 most experienced player?
Is Doedee injured and replaced by Worrell for the start of the season?

We probably going to have around 7-8 players under 30 games round 1

I would like us to put a cap of something like 18-20 games played by our older group who aren't in the wet premiership hunt so more kids can get games.
 

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Here is a breakdown of our list and rookies for 2022


Adelaide
SamBerry
LukeBrown
BraydenCook
MattCrouch
JordanDawson
TomDoedee
DarcyFogarty
WilliamFrampton
LachlanGollant
WilliamHamill
JacksonHately
ElliottHimmelberg
MitchellHinge
ChayceJones
BenKeays
RoryLaird
ShaneMcAdam
FischerMcAsey
NedMcHenry
AndrewMcPherson
WayneMilera
LachlanMurphy
LukeNankervis
ReillyO'Brien
LukePedlar
JoshuaRachele
JamesRowe
HarrySchoenberg
PaulSeedsman
LachlanSholl
RorySloane
BrodieSmith
JakeSoligo
ZacTaylor
RileyThilthorpe
TaylorWalker
JoshuaWorrell
Category AJordonButts
Category ABenDavis
Category ANicholasMurray
Category APatrickParnell
Category AKieranStrachan
Category BJamesBorlase
Category BTariekNewchurch
 
PsychoG said:
I find it slightly baffling that so many people think the club will be bottom 2 next season which coming after a season winning 7 games would be nothing short of a failure and represent a regression.
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Why do you find it baffling that people would think the club would fail and regress?

They’re going on two and a half decades worth of evidence.
 


Our full squad list:

1. Chayce Jones
2. Ben Keays
3. Fischer McAsey
4. Lachlan Murphy
5. Matt Crouch
6. Jackson Hately
7. Riley Thilthorpe
8. Josh Rachele
9. Rory Sloane
10. Luke Pedlar
11. Paul Seedsman
12. Jordan Dawson
13. Taylor Walker
14. Jake Soligo
15. Brayden Cook
16. Luke Brown
17. Will Hamill
19. Zac Taylor
20. Mitch Hinge
21. Sam Berry
22. Billy Frampton
23. Shane McAdam
24. Joshua Worrell
25. Ned McHenry
26. Harry Schoenberg
27. Luke Nankervis
28. Nick Murray
29. Rory Laird
30. Wayne Milera
31. James Rowe
32. Darcy Fogarty
33. Brodie Smith
34. Elliott Himmelberg
35. James Borlase
36. Andrew McPherson
37. Patrick Parnell
38. Lachlan Sholl
39. Tom Doedee
40. Ben Davis
41. Jordon Butts
42. Tariek Newchurch
43. Reilly O'Brien
44. Lachlan Gollant
 
WaynesWorld19 said:


Our full squad list:

1. Chayce Jones
2. Ben Keays
3. Fischer McAsey
4. Lachlan Murphy
5. Matt Crouch
6. Jackson Hately
7. Riley Thilthorpe
8. Josh Rachele
9. Rory Sloane
10. Luke Pedlar
11. Paul Seedsman
12. Jordan Dawson
13. Taylor Walker
14. Jake Soligo
15. Brayden Cook
16. Luke Brown
17. Will Hamill
19. Zac Taylor
20. Mitch Hinge
21. Sam Berry
22. Billy Frampton
23. Shane McAdam
24. Joshua Worrell
25. Ned McHenry
26. Harry Schoenberg
27. Luke Nankervis
28. Nick Murray
29. Rory Laird
30. Wayne Milera
31. James Rowe
32. Darcy Fogarty
33. Brodie Smith
34. Elliott Himmelberg
35. James Borlase
36. Andrew McPherson
37. Patrick Parnell
38. Lachlan Sholl
39. Tom Doedee
40. Ben Davis
41. Jordon Butts
42. Tariek Newchurch
43. Reilly O'Brien
44. Lachlan Gollant
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Poor Soligo
 
WaynesWorld19 said:


Our full squad list:

1. Chayce Jones
2. Ben Keays
3. Fischer McAsey
4. Lachlan Murphy
5. Matt Crouch
6. Jackson Hately
7. Riley Thilthorpe
8. Josh Rachele
9. Rory Sloane
10. Luke Pedlar
11. Paul Seedsman
12. Jordan Dawson
13. Taylor Walker
14. Jake Soligo
15. Brayden Cook
16. Luke Brown
17. Will Hamill
19. Zac Taylor
20. Mitch Hinge
21. Sam Berry
22. Billy Frampton
23. Shane McAdam
24. Joshua Worrell
25. Ned McHenry
26. Harry Schoenberg
27. Luke Nankervis
28. Nick Murray
29. Rory Laird
30. Wayne Milera
31. James Rowe
32. Darcy Fogarty
33. Brodie Smith
34. Elliott Himmelberg
35. James Borlase
36. Andrew McPherson
37. Patrick Parnell
38. Lachlan Sholl
39. Tom Doedee
40. Ben Davis
41. Jordon Butts
42. Tariek Newchurch
43. Reilly O'Brien
44. Lachlan Gollant
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No #18, I see. Letting it cool off...
 
WaynesWorld19 said:


Our full squad list:

1. Chayce Jones
2. Ben Keays
3. Fischer McAsey
4. Lachlan Murphy
5. Matt Crouch
6. Jackson Hately
7. Riley Thilthorpe
8. Josh Rachele
9. Rory Sloane
10. Luke Pedlar
11. Paul Seedsman
12. Jordan Dawson
13. Taylor Walker
14. Jake Soligo
15. Brayden Cook
16. Luke Brown
17. Will Hamill
19. Zac Taylor
20. Mitch Hinge
21. Sam Berry
22. Billy Frampton
23. Shane McAdam
24. Joshua Worrell
25. Ned McHenry
26. Harry Schoenberg
27. Luke Nankervis
28. Nick Murray
29. Rory Laird
30. Wayne Milera
31. James Rowe
32. Darcy Fogarty
33. Brodie Smith
34. Elliott Himmelberg
35. James Borlase
36. Andrew McPherson
37. Patrick Parnell
38. Lachlan Sholl
39. Tom Doedee
40. Ben Davis
41. Jordon Butts
42. Tariek Newchurch
43. Reilly O'Brien
44. Lachlan Gollant
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Scorpus said:
Everyone else around us has improved their list too though
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Hawthorn didn't improve their list, neither did Gold Coast. Collingwood will just about bottom out this year, they are a year at least behind us in development. Richmond didn't improve, Freo went back, St Kilda hasn't moved but could be good if they forget about last year. West Coast didn't improve.

North improved late last year, and added CCJ and Greenwood, I consider them to have improved. Carlton improved by including Cerra.

Unless you are including 18 yo draft picks who mostly won't do much for a couple of years, even JHF and Dacios, where do you see the improved lists around us?
 
LoBu said:
Hawthorn didn't improve their list, neither did Gold Coast. Collingwood will just about bottom out this year, they are a year at least behind us in development. Richmond didn't improve, Freo went back, St Kilda hasn't moved but could be good if they forget about last year. West Coast didn't improve.

North improved late last year, and added CCJ and Greenwood, I consider them to have improved. Carlton improved by including Cerra.

Unless you are including 18 yo draft picks who mostly won't do much for a couple of years, even JHF and Dacios, where do you see the improved lists around us?
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Are freo, St kilda, west coast and richmond even considered to be around us?

Injuries plagued hawthorn for the most part so they should get better (although a large assumption in that depends on how good Mitchell is as a coach).

Gold coast lost greenwood but also could get back a fit Rowell with other younger kids naturally improving, NM have improved their assets greatly.

The only team on our level that probably didn't improve at all is Collingwood, but they seem to be regarded as spoon favourites anyway.
 
Wazzy36 said:
Are freo, St kilda, west coast and richmond even considered to be around us?

Injuries plagued hawthorn for the most part so they should get better (although a large assumption in that depends on how good Mitchell is as a coach).

Gold coast lost greenwood but also could get back a fit Rowell with other younger kids naturally improving, NM have improved their assets greatly.

The only team on our level that probably didn't improve at all is Collingwood, but they seem to be regarded as spoon favourites anyway.
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Fair enough, a difference in opinion to me.

RE Freo, Saints WC and Rich, they were all out of the 8 last year, so I consider them around where we want to be 2022. I also consider WC and Rich to be on the slide, Freo and Saints on the rise/ trying to work out how to get a game plan that will work if they are to improve.
 
LoBu said:
Fair enough, a difference in opinion to me.

RE Freo, Saints WC and Rich, they were all out of the 8 last year, so I consider them around where we want to be 2022. I also consider WC and Rich to be on the slide, Freo and Saints on the rise/ trying to work out how to get a game plan that will work if they are to improve.
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That's fair, maybe im just more pessimistic about our 2022.
 
LoBu said:
Fair enough, a difference in opinion to me.

RE Freo, Saints WC and Rich, they were all out of the 8 last year, so I consider them around where we want to be 2022. I also consider WC and Rich to be on the slide, Freo and Saints on the rise/ trying to work out how to get a game plan that will work if they are to improve.
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Saints for me will continue to struggle, I xmcant get a read on their lost strategy

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LoBu said:
Hawthorn didn't improve their list, neither did Gold Coast. Collingwood will just about bottom out this year, they are a year at least behind us in development. Richmond didn't improve, Freo went back, St Kilda hasn't moved but could be good if they forget about last year. West Coast didn't improve.

North improved late last year, and added CCJ and Greenwood, I consider them to have improved. Carlton improved by including Cerra.

Unless you are including 18 yo draft picks who mostly won't do much for a couple of years, even JHF and Dacios, where do you see the improved lists around us?
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Gold Coast played most of the year without a ruckman will have Witts back and have added Chol as a handy 2nd ruck and very handy key forward to support King, a fit and healthy Rowell who had 9 brownlow votes in his first 4 games, Rankine finally getting a full preseason in, his first since being on an AFL list should show his real talent, 2 key defenders back from injury after being very under sized this year, Hollands another star early draft pick over his knee injury played some reserves games late this year and having a full preseason plus the development of about 20 more first rd draft picks most being top ten picks, If they finally get a decent run with injuries they could be big improvers
 
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