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Then quit with all the bullsh1t!
You and your climate change scientist buddies sound like a bunch of hysterical fools to anyone who has half a brain.
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Then quit with all the bullsh1t!
You and your climate change scientist buddies sound like a bunch of hysterical fools to anyone who has half a brain.
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Do you want more examples? There's plenty!
Huh? I just gave you a reason why it might not be bullsh*t despite your observations.
the appropriate response from you is. "Ok that makes sense. Understood."
and dude. If all the sceintists are on the other side of the argument to you then you are on the wrong side of the argument.
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Not all scientists, but yes, the majority. Probably because it's basically career suicide if their not. Gotta be on that gravy train! Is that how science works now.
Then you've got the alarmist ones that just make complete fools of themselves.
On top of that you've got the IPCC continually trotting out an unhinged, teenage activist to bark at world leaders. Yet at the same time they claim to be unbiased! Really?
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Could be, it doesn’t disprove the climate change projections, but just pointing it out before someone jumped on the bandwagon.
The hottest temp ever recorded anywhere in the world was in 1913.
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Revealed: oil sector's 'staggering' $3bn-a-day profits for last 50 years
The vast total captured by petrostates and fossil fuel companies since 1970 is $52tn, providing the power to “buy every politician, every system” and delay action on the climate crisis, says Prof Aviel Verbruggen, the author of the analysis.
The vast total captured by petrostates and fossil fuel companies since 1970 is $52tn, providing the power to “buy every politician, every system” and delay action on the climate crisis, says Prof Aviel Verbruggen, the author of the analysis.
This aint a fossil fuel problem. Its a government problem. A problem rife across all large existing industries. Housing, banking, farming, aviation, motor vehicle manufacturing, medicine, military equipment. All have strong lobbies that greatly influence government policy.
and its not just capital owners that create this problem. Unions have also been a major problem in protecting existing industries from the point of view of protecting jobs.
this isnt a western democratic problem either. Its a problem that has greatly hampered government since the dawn of civilisation. the more prosperous civilisations that have arose have often been the ones that have deshackled themselves, usually only temporarily, from strong lobbying from existing interest groups.
the only way to fix this is to ban lobbying from all groups and employ more academic, engineering and economic experts in the fields of government decision making.
Temperature recording equipment was quite dodgy in the past and wasnt done in a uniform way. experts highly doubt those recordings. Some believe they already have enough evidence to dismiss them.
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Every house must be able to run 100% on solar/batteries by 2030 or house demolished.
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There are crooks everywhere, in all walks of life, in senior roles & minor - the attempt (or is it a need) to can any industry with such a set of numbers is to take advantage of punters who only see numbers.
Its like blaming the ALP for fraud by a State Government employee:
'Enormous' $27 million public sector theft sees corrupt WA bureaucrat handed 12-year jail term
Corrupt West Australian bureaucrat Paul Whyte will serve a minimum of 10 years behind bars for masterminding the theft of $27 million of taxpayers' money and using it to fund a lavish lifestyle.
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Sadly there are donkeys out there who are happy to mislead to benefit their own beliefs, particularly activists happy to con the naive.
The biggest paradox in the climate change argument are the claims around aspirational percentages.
Without Russia, China or India those making these claims know they cant be delivered/wont ever be delivered.
Without Russia, China or India those making these claims know they cant be delivered/wont ever be delivered.
Not sure if serious how does rampant demolition help the environment?
Batteries only have one days cycle of energy. If you get two overcast days in a row then there are mass blackouts.
you could put in double battery storage. But the cost of that is twice as high. And what happens if there are three overcast days in a row? Four, five, six, seven?
on top of that, utility solar with batteries is now cheaper then rooftop solar. Rooftop solar is going to be a redundant technology in areas connected to a grid.
the key to clean energy is you need diversity of sources and highly interconnected grids. an even mix of wind, biofuels, solar and hydro. even with this diversity the storage costs will be signficant to go 100 percent clean.
Can keep your house cool or warm during sunshine hours using solar, meaning only a slight top up at night (and wfh means better use in daylight too)
That’s a form of energy storage
That’s a form of energy storage
Certainly another low blow to the workers who have lost their jobs in high energy industry - note the worlds emissions would be reduced by nil, squat, zip, just as it has with Chinas reduction in Australian coal. And the jobs would still be there but not in Australia.
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If they are any good they will find other jobs.
Unless we're prepared to share the wealth and technology with them that we've created over the last century plus burning way more fossil fuels than they have now, they can not stop.
How many of these factories are working for western companies selling to western markets?
Russia is obviously a fascist disaster zone petro-state now. China, however, has probably done more to move towards a clean energy future than most nations.
Sure they are the reasons that these countries are the real problem facing climate change aspirations that so many believe will change the world.
We export jobs.
Sorry, I'm not clear what you're saying here.
The climate change paradox.
Russia & China are not going to reduce their use of fossil fuels. The rest of the world, on their own, can not achieve the emissions reductions needed without them.
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